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Fortunately, you need not have played Xenogears to get exactly what's going on here, since they dropped the premise of it being a straight prequel pretty early on. Lot of the same themes, though, and still anime as hell. And lots of fanservice aimed at 'gears-players here and there.
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I will say, I'm looking forward to getting through the ship and into the latter half of the game. It has its downfalls like the first half has its moments, but I remember it being significantly more relevant and exciting than the Pre-Cathedral Ship events.
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I wonder how many playthroughs of the game have been stopped by this abjectly terrible dungeon, jeez. Those color-swapped minibosses in the same dungeon are also just the laziest.
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This game sounds a lot like Anachronox: both take nearly half the game to get going and so their popularity tanked because everyone quit before the good parts got rolling.
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Truthfully I think the plot surrounding Cathedral Ship is the high point of the series in terms of writing. Just... yeah. The series' bipolar treatment of plot and gameplay is not something most people will tolerate and it's really a shame because, for it's faults, I really like that the series tried to pull off a plot like this. It's something that could only work as a video game I think, but the way the series fizzled I dunno that anyone else would really be willing to improve on it and make another attempt.
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I'm surprised that with the composer they had this entire giant dungeon has no background music whatsoever.
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Cathedral Ship is finally coming to a close, and with it, we're now over halfway done with the game. Part 18:   (Click here for video)No Commentary Over Cutscenes  VOTING TIMEI will be recording the next dungeon soon. Due to story reasons, Shion and Jr. need to be in the party. I need you guys to pick a third party member. Make sure to bold your votes so they are counted. Deadline is when I post the next update.
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Aug 26, 2013 01:42
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KOS-MOS is the ultimate poke ball.
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Aug 26, 2013 02:59
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My prediction for this update was strangely accurate. Uterus beam though, I don't think anyone expected that. Great Joe fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 03:07
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chaos please? Want to see what he can do.
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More chaos, please. Now, see? I liked the ending to that dungeon. I just don't know why it couldn't have come at least 20 minutes sooner.
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Lots to talk about from this update. The scene with Margulis talking to Cherenkov is one of my favorites throughout the whole series. This game makes some questionable uses of its soundtrack but using "Beach of Nothingness" over that sequence was just perfect. I also found it pretty interesting and Margulis has always been my favorite Xeno villain since way back in the day. Asso, now that Cherenkov is done for, I can post Margulis' personality write up: quote:* Enneagram type Also gently caress that boss. I found a couple bosses harder later on but back in the day, he was a nightmare. He seems to be the boss most people remember being the most challenging too, probably because he's the first really challenging one. Cherenkov was a well-done side character though. I felt bad for him. Although his little warning to Shion was a bit ominous... EDIT: Gonna go with the flow and say chaos. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 05:37
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chaos please. We need to keep everyone pretty evenly leveled.
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Okay, so a lot of stuff happened this update, but I think the most important thing is that I finally got a good look at the Captain's hat. That loving hat.
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Makes you wish there was such a thing as the Xenosaga HD Remake. Captain Matthew's Hat in high resolution! That'll sell some copies. Also. You Know You've Thought Too Much About Xenosaga When: you watch this update and everything in it makes perfect sense.
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CmdrKing posted:you watch this update and everything in it makes perfect sense. \o Cherenkov got hit with the Gnosises way back after they met Captain Kaz. Then he proceeded to not give a crap until they got to the Cathedral Ship, which is chock full of evil Gnosis vibes, which made Cherenkov get more infected, giving him hallucinations of days past. Then he got to the Zohar Emulator, presumably he was trying to free it for U-TIC, but the Gnosis turned their vibes to 11 (read: exploited the feelings of weakness he had from being abandoned by society (this happens in every anime (ever))), transformed him into a Gnosis and then he lost control of himself. Then Shion and the gang killed him, and the Zohar (which is interested in Shion somehow) put up a telepathic link between Shion and Cherenkov, so he could say goodbye or whatever. So far the Zohar seem really invested in loving with Shion's head, though she's not alone in that respect. Then space things happened, KOS-MOS revealed more signs of outside tampering in development/spiritual awakening and then her tummy fired a laser (probably made of magic) which somehow absorbed Gnosis. I have never played this game. I'm literally just piecing together narrative cliches.
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Yeah that's all well and good but you seem to have misspelled vagina as tummy in your post (I'm not spoiling that because it's just too lovely out of context). KOS-MOS literally just gave reverse birth to a bunch of Gnosis. I've gotta be honest, I never thought I'd see the day that being able to write "a robot in this game fires a laser out of a symbolic vagina that absorbs a bunch of somewhat phallic space aliens into said vagina" would make sense in context. Thanks Scurvykip, I guess. Oh, and go with chaos, I think I'm done with KOS-MOS for the rest of this series.
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YourAverageJoe posted:\o Ah, but why do all those things happen, and how are they possible? Those are the answers that make you say "oh god I've wasted my life". e: To be clear, it's not just that the answers are weird, it's that some of them are explained in a way that intentionally obfuscate the matter but are actually really straightforward once you chew on them a while. CmdrKing fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 16:45
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Congratulations on getting through the worst point in the game. It's uphill from here on out!
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Take chaos and form Team Giant Robots Only.
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I'm going to say Jr.. Not only does he become far less annoying as the saga goes on, chaos isn't very effective against non-gnosis enemies and we just suck all of those into our robot vagina. I can't believe I just typed that.
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chaos. chaos is cool.mmj posted:I'm going to say Jr.. Not only does he become far less annoying as the saga goes on, chaos isn't very effective against non-gnosis enemies and we just suck all of those into our robot vagina. I can't believe I just typed that. ScurvyKip posted:I will be recording the next dungeon soon. Due to story reasons, Shion and Jr. need to be in the party.
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chaos all day. If I recall, he gets pretty stylish later on and everyone likes style.
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mmj posted:I'm going to say Jr.. Not only does he become far less annoying as the saga goes on, chaos isn't very effective against non-gnosis enemies and we just suck all of those into our robot vagina. I can't believe I just typed that. Chaos was pretty good in general, in my experience. He doesn't wreck shop against humans or mechs as well as he does against gnosis, but he's still no slouch, and he's got some good support abilities too.
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Will Smith and his family had a pretty strong reaction to KOS-MOS' "special ability" in the last episode.
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ScurvyKip posted:I will be recording the next dungeon soon. Due to story reasons, Shion and Jr. need to be in the party. I need you guys to pick a third party member. Make sure to bold your votes so they are counted. Deadline is when I post the next update.
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Livingtrope posted:Yeah that's all well and good but you seem to have misspelled vagina as tummy in your post (I'm not spoiling that because it's just too lovely out of context). I was trying to keep my language work safe, but okay. CmdrKing posted:Ah, but why do all those things happen, and how are they possible? There's a lot to be explained (something the Japanese are not keen on doing), but for now I'm happy with "a Zohar did it". For one, we don't know why only a few select people can interact with the Zohar, or what that interaction entails. We don't know whether the Zohar are sentient or just mindless drones working for a higher power somewhere in hyperspace/another dimension, or even what their (masters') goals are. We do know they have a connection with the afterlife, either they project memories of people or commune with real ghosts. As for KOS-MOS, it could be any number of magical science terms common to anime. So far the game's been content with bashing us with an "outside tampering" angle, but whether it's technological or spiritual (the good ol' robot soul trope) has yet to be explained. KOS-MOS DID come into close contact with the Zohar just before (ghosts hacking into her system?), so that might have something to do with her going all super-mom. At least we know one thing for sure: The captain's hat is rad. And the party needs chaos
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I see KOS-MOS has developed a case of Plot-Dependent Powers. \/\/\/EDIT\/\/\/ It is certainly a hallmark of the genre, and the game does not disappoint. Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Aug 27, 2013 |
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Monkey Fracas posted:I see KOS-MOS has developed a case of Plot-Dependent Powers. What part of "anime as gently caress" do you not understand?
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Oh and the term "Life Recycling Variant" was used to describe Cherenkov, and it will be used again. I think it be best to post the Database's explanation of what it means.quote:A term which encompasses individuals or their descendants who have had their DNA, neural structure, or other bio- logical components heavily modified. Some may display extraordinary physical abilities or superhuman powers depending on the level of modification, but on the other hand many suffer from adverse mental effects. Also, I wanna bring up something I didn't mention earlier. As you might expect, back in the heyday of Xenosaga online discussions and theories and explanations, one aspect of Episode 1 that was looked at closely was the scene right before the Gnosis drag the Elsa out of hyperspace. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0m06qHmvk&t=5m19s As you can see, we are specifically shown MOMO's hands along with Shion's going all glowy. This led to a lot of speculation about "what" exactly was the deal with Shion. There had to be a purpose to this little detail. A more blatant hint something is up with Shion can be found in the Datbase, referencing the scene where Shion and Virgil tried to fight off he intangible Gnosis back on the Woglinde: quote:FAE (Fuel Air Explosive)
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I forgot jr. Was already coming, sorry. In that case I'll throw in my vote for chaos because he hasn't had much screen time and his attacks look pretty cool (and super anime of course)
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NikkolasKing posted:A more blatant hint something is up with Shion can be found in the Datbase, referencing the scene where Shion and Virgil tried to fight off he intangible Gnosis back on the Woglinde: I think that's more the database poking fun at inconsistencies in the game more than anything. It does this in other entries as well.
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Also, have you ever seen an anime where being bodily thrown ten feet and slammed into something actually caused real harm to any main character?
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Thanks to this, and the xenoblade LP, I've been having an terrible urge to play xenogears again. So now I'm doing that again, and now I'm in for the long haul. So i just wanna say gently caress you, but thanks anyway.
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ScurvyKip posted:I think that's more the database poking fun at inconsistencies in the game more than anything. It does this in other entries as well. The MWS projects a kinetic field to physically protect Shion. Just saying, it's the reason she's still running around in normal clothes then anything remotely protective... like... what no one else is also wearing, except chaos. (he's wearing an EVA suit.)
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NikkolasKing posted:Lots to talk about from this update. I dunno, for my money Grahf pulled it off better. "DOST THOU DESIRE THE POWER" just seems more authentic than the whole "you're the only real person in a world of sheeple" thing.
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cdyoung posted:The MWS projects a kinetic field to physically protect Shion. Just saying, it's the reason she's still running around in normal clothes then anything remotely protective... like... what no one else is also wearing, except chaos. (he's wearing an EVA suit.) EVA suit? Looks more like he got fashion tips from Claire Redfield back in RE2.
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Glazius posted:I dunno, for my money Grahf pulled it off better. "DOST THOU DESIRE THE POWER" just seems more authentic than the whole "you're the only real person in a world of sheeple" thing. Grahf was a fantastic villain but his theatrics can't really be compared with Margulis' recruitment speech about joining his space religion army. Grahf was certainly better with the drama though, I agree. He's my favorite bad guy in Gears or Saga.
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Alright guys, after a bit of a long break and Unpronounceable moving and getting new internet, I bring you a new update! Part 19: It's all up from here  (Click here for video)No Commentary Over Cutscenes
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ScurvyKip posted:Alright guys, after a bit of a long break and Unpronounceable moving and getting new internet, I bring you a new update! So Juniors some sort of Realian too ? Although, the way he talks about Momo doesn't really imply that he is, it makes the most sense. But apparently he hasn't aged in forever and he has a serial number. Also, biblical references all over the place this time.
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