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Night10194 posted:I also really like Raiden's rebuttal about 'What the hell are you talking about, rich first world politician dude, I've actually lived in lawless hellholes' at the end there. Yeah I really liked that bit. Armstrong is trying to play at his idealized libertarian paradise without any real experience of how such a scenario would play out in real life. Or he DOES know and he just doesn't give a drat because he's that bugfuck insane. 
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I was waiting for this, I really was. Specifically for when Raiden goes "THE MEMES!" just to hear the reactions, but the rest of it was amazing. Also, Armstrong has a LOT of lines, like he has a couple which nobody mentioned yet which I enjoy particularly like "THE GREATEST NATION DEMANDS YOUR BLOOD RAIDEN!" and "SORRY SON, UNCLE SAM WANTS YOU DEAD!" or something very close to that. There's still some to come that are even better, mind you!
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Raiden's reactions in general are pretty great once he starts fighting Armstrong in person. From his 'an ordinary human's gonna fight me?' to a 'oh god why am I getting my rear end beat by some guy  ' to 'is this guy actually this insane?!  ' He clearly has no idea what the gently caress. Much like the player.
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Some great little animations in this sequence as well- BETRAYAL!!?? Armstrong gets me every time. Geop posted it, but here it is again:  
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"Don't gently caress with this senator" is the best line in the whole game. Bar none.
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SWMadness posted:Yeah I really liked that bit. Like literally every libertarian, he does not know how terrible his utopia is. Edit: A semi-relavent piece of libertarian film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8fkdBz2bds
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The Wicked Wall posted:I was waiting for this, I really was. Specifically for when Raiden goes "THE MEMES!" just to hear the reactions, but the rest of it was amazing. It's just an awesome boss fight. Even moreso when you figure out that you can dodge everything he does.
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The big twist that Armstrong isn't some Patriot mimic but actually an uber-powerful extreme libertarian/anarchist is basically my favourite moment in the entire series. Armstrong is just the best, the entire "Am I finally getting through?!" sequence is INCREDIBLE. edit: And I always got the impression that he intended everybody to become super-powered machinemen like him and Raiden, also the whole anarchy angle doesn't seem like a thing that'd hold him back.
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Satanos posted:The big twist that Armstrong isn't some Patriot mimic but actually an uber-powerful extreme libertarian/anarchist is basically my favourite moment in the entire series. Armstrong is just the best, the entire "Am I finally getting through?!" sequence is INCREDIBLE. The twist is that Revengeance is just an alternate-world prequel to Anarchy Reigns where Armstrong lost.
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Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday.
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Chip Cheezum posted:Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday.  You're good people, Chip Cheezum.
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Chip Cheezum posted:Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday. You're the best.
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Sep 6, 2013 21:43
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When I first played this, I was told from a friend that the final boss was a Metal Gear. I don't think I can describe my reaction to the rest of the game in words. God bless you, Platinum Games.
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Chip Cheezum posted:Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday. You're alright, Chip. Now when are you gonna do...that VR Mission? EDIT: Wait, I think you already did that. Record it again 
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I'm so glad you included that codec Chip I was gonna go nuts if you hadn't. I'd like to think Otacon's transformation into a beautiful ladies man means that he finally became the Anime of his dreams. If anyone deserves a happy ending in Metal Gear it's him.
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Night10194 posted:I also really like Raiden's rebuttal about 'What the hell are you talking about, rich first world politician dude, I've actually lived in lawless hellholes' at the end there.
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TheLoser posted:"Don't gently caress with this senator" is the best line in the whole game. Bar none. I believe you mean 'the best line from ALL games. Bar none.
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Satanos posted:edit: And I always got the impression that he intended everybody to become super-powered machinemen like him and Raiden, also the whole anarchy angle doesn't seem like a thing that'd hold him back. Yeah, that's kinda what I picture his perfect America as, a place where everyone is a super-powered cyborg and all disputes whether big or small are settled via over the top high speed combat. You don't like Big Government? Under President Armstrong you'll have a high-tech cyborg body and arsenal of deadly weapons you can use to cut things down to size! Also, I love the "Well... I don't write my own speeches," line. I can just picture him giving it the Bush style folksy charm while wishing he could just go ahead and break the president in half.
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Shyrka posted:I love the "Well... I don't write my own speeches," line. During this year's SA Gamedev competition, one team made a game called Steven Wordstrong in which you play as a speech copy editor for everyone's favorite superpowered senator. Might be worth a chuckle.
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Night10194 posted:I might just be misremembering things, but isn't Armstrong's plan pretty much what Big Boss was going for in Outer Heaven and the like? A world where everyone is free to fight for what they believe in and all that crazy bullshit? Armstrong wants a stateless world so nanomachine monsters and cyborgs can subjugate the norms through force and kickstart evolution.
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Usually, I watch these videos and smile and occasionally laugh, but Armstrong hulking out and "Don't gently caress with this senator" complete with crowd cheers completely made me crack up. Night10194 posted:I might just be misremembering things, but isn't Armstrong's plan pretty much what Big Boss was going for in Outer Heaven and the like? A world where everyone is free to fight for what they believe in and all that crazy bullshit? Well, Big Boss's ideal was just limited to soldiers soldier-ing around constantly on their Also, that Sunny codec made me realize that Raiden is apparently that grandma who makes you feel uncomfortable by asking you if you have a boy/girlfriend at Thanksgiving.
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I think Raiden's just a huge shipper. He secretly wishes Sunny answered him with "Yeah, he's FINALLY getting married to Snake." Wait. Is that a giant tank and also spider? GIANT SPIDER WITH A TANK HEAD? WITH A SENATOR INSIDE? At least Sunny would be proud of Raiden's cigar-splitting stance on smoking. I am going to confess... I was worried about this fight. I was kinda half-spoiled that the senator was involved. So I was kinda afraid I'd not be surprised by anything in the fight. I WAS ENTIRELY INCORRECT, IT SEEMS. THIS IS AMAZING.
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Night10194 posted:I might just be misremembering things, but isn't Armstrong's plan pretty much what Big Boss was going for in Outer Heaven and the like? A world where everyone is free to fight for what they believe in and all that crazy bullshit? Big Boss wanted to end disputes which pitted people who were on the same side against each other, such as Civil Wars and what happened with The Boss and The Cobras. Thus the creation of "A military without borders." Armstrong just wants a world where the rich crush the skulls of the poor. Both are equally infeasible and unjust, but one is both A) Evil and B) a thing people honestly believe in. Chip Cheezum posted:Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday. God bless us, everyone.
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Chip Cheezum posted:Just to let people know, I'm not gonna make everybody wait a week for the final boss. I'm gonna post the next update on Sunday. You're doin' God's work, son.
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God, this cutscene. I've seen it like four times now, and I honestly still don't know if it's incredible, or unbearable.
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Internet Janitor posted:During this year's SA Gamedev competition, one team made a game called Steven Wordstrong in which you play as a speech copy editor for everyone's favorite superpowered senator. Might be worth a chuckle. Yeah that was pretty fun. Thanks.
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I was not expecting the senator to turn into Colossus from the X-Men. My favorite part is that Excelsus is just marketed as a Metal Gear to sell better, though.
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So Excelsus isn't a Gear because it has no means of launching a nuke, right? Other than that I'm not sure why it wouldn't qualify.
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Buried alive posted:So Excelsus isn't a Gear because it has no means of launching a nuke, right? Other than that I'm not sure why it wouldn't qualify. That's probably it, yeah. Geckos aren't technically Metal Gears either for the same reason.
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Buried alive posted:So Excelsus isn't a Gear because it has no means of launching a nuke, right? Other than that I'm not sure why it wouldn't qualify. Well I don't think thats the only criteria, seeing as RAY can't launch nukes either.
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Buried alive posted:So Excelsus isn't a Gear because it has no means of launching a nuke, right? Other than that I'm not sure why it wouldn't qualify. It was just a jab at themselves.
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The more I witness from this game, the more I love it and the madder I get at people who don't like it. What kind of soulless jerk would you have to be to not have fun every single second of this experience. Also I was spoiled on who the final boss was but thankfully that didn't ruin the experience whatsoever. (Also by the way I didn't intend for that Johnny derail a few pages ago, I was just wondering if MGS1/2/4 Johnny's dad was Johnny II or not basically, but whatever.)
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Geop posted:To reiterate: I really, really like the cutscenes in this update Just look at that sincere smile 
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Geop posted:armstrong.gif The exaggerated dust cloud amuses me the most for some reason.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Well I don't think thats the only criteria, seeing as RAY can't launch nukes either. Could it in MGS2? The RAY in this game was modified, so that was the reason it couldn't launch any now. JamMasterJim posted:Armstrong.jpeg I wouldn't even be mad if that game had ended like that. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Could it in MGS2? The RAY in this game was modified, so that was the reason it couldn't launch any now. RAY was specifically built as an anti-naval/anti-REX dealie.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Could it in MGS2? The RAY in this game was modified, so that was the reason it couldn't launch any now. RAY never could. RAY's purpose was to be the Anti-REX so I guess it got a water cannon as an anti-nuke weapon.
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