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Crasscrab posted:well seeing as how bsg was created by a mormon who put a bunch of mormon poo poo into the original idea for the project dont quite stymie u loving rear end in a top hat
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the hilarious thing is the way upper management works, the idiots who decided to start their own streaming service probably left before it crashed and burned, and proudly list that initiative on their cv as they continue to fail upwards in life i once tried to put together a basic file drop/retrieval thing for some clients to use and management got involved and eventually i was asked to basically reinvent ftp, but over http, and make it easy because ftp is "too hard", and oh yeah this needs to also be a comprehensive system that assigns tasks and provides full content management that's still in scope, right?
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Crasscrab posted:well seeing as how bsg was created by a mormon who put a bunch of mormon poo poo into the original idea for the project according to wikipedia the original name for the show was meant to be adama's ark lol
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Sep 12, 2013 19:11
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duTrieux. posted:that's still in scope, right?
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Sep 12, 2013 19:12
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Hashtag Nascar posted:according to wikipedia the original name for the show was meant to be adama's ark lol there's also a whole list of religious poo poo that pops up in bsg
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Sep 12, 2013 19:12
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it must be because the bsg creators are secret Godists who are pushing their Anti-Rational agenda on us Enlightened Atheists, rather than it's easier and more interesting to use religious iconography to tell a story than sneering diatribes about how dumb Religionists are
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god did it is literally the cylon mantra for the entire series. it shouldn't come as any surprise that god did in fact do it. the bigger problem with bsg is they never properly framed why it's relevant for the cylons to believe in that god, how that contrasts with the humans' polytheism, and why this results in a genocidal war between the two. the show heavily telegraphs that god is working the strings behind everything. the show never explains why this is important. cue audience filling in the blanks themselves and being frustrated when no narrative explanation is ever offered. Dr Monkeysee fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 19:16
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i would have no problem with god did it if there were any indication of god's motivations or wants or values or what the meaning of it was beyond the writer going "hey let's inject some portent in here"
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'God did it' was p dumb but the end scene on modern day earth was dumb as hell iirc it turned it all into a frankenstein 'treat your creations well' morality take MindSet fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 20:37
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csfs: detoxxing from the stupid BSG ending (I was actually finishing up a complete rewash) and having a palate cleanse with Frasier since I never watched that show when I was on. That show is p solid.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:18
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Monkeyseesaw posted:god did it is literally the cylon mantra for the entire series. it shouldn't come as any surprise that god did in fact do it. the bigger problem with bsg is they never properly framed why it's relevant for the cylons to believe in that god, how that contrasts with the humans' polytheism, and why this results in a genocidal war between the two. they show us that the cylons are religious fanatics, obsessed with prophesy, again and again. there are indications that events on the show line up with prophesy. and that's the end of the "telegraphing" in season 3 some totally magical unexplained poo poo happens. people literally come back from the dead without any explanation offered whatsoever then more unexplained poo poo then whoops "god did it" is the end of the show even in religious texts people who come back from the dead can usually discuss the topic intelligently, the authors don't just kinda waffle about it and brush it under the carpet
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Sep 12, 2013 21:25
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battlestar galactica 2004 writer's guide posted:36 And as they thus spake, Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 21:29
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the thing with using religious tropes in a show is that most everything has been explored and turned outside in again and again over the past 1500 years to the point of absurdity. putting together a judeo-christian morality play in tyool 2013 and expecting everybody to just nod their heads and go "oh, god did it. how profound!" is just plain lazy
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Sep 12, 2013 21:39
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duTrieux. posted:the thing with using religious tropes in a show is that most everything has been explored and turned outside in again and again over the past 1500 years to the point of absurdity. putting together a judeo-christian morality play in tyool 2013 and expecting everybody to just nod their heads and go "oh, god did it. how profound!" is just plain lazy relying on religious symbols to convey your meaning instead of creating proper narrative/characterization/plot is also lazy
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Sep 12, 2013 21:40
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Monkeyseesaw posted:the show heavily telegraphs that god is working the strings behind everything. the show never explains why this is important. cue audience filling in the blanks themselves and being frustrated when no narrative explanation is ever offered. it doesn't explain why because the people involved expect watchers to just be all "oh, god did it! that makes sense because we are all part of god's plan. god is inscrutable, so there's no point in explanation anyway!" lazy
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Started to watch the X-Files on netflix, really not that good through the first season.
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duTrieux. posted:relying on religious symbols to convey your meaning instead of creating proper narrative/characterization/plot is also lazy nah i enjoy the use of religious allusion that poo poo is cool w/ me it's a rich literary tradition why the gently caress would you not apply it to genre fiction or television duTrieux. posted:it doesn't explain why because the people involved expect watchers to just be all "oh, god did it! that makes sense because we are all part of god's plan. god is inscrutable, so there's no point in explanation anyway!" this is the problem the god of the new testament isn't inscrutable, anything but. jesus is just dyin to tell people what his daddy's up to, it's the "good news" and poo poo miracles are performed, extensively discussed etc.
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LP97S posted:Started to watch the X-Files on netflix, really not that good through the first season. the really good run starts at "duane barry" and continues for at least the next several seasons, consensus seems to be that it goes downhill after 6
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the problem with BSG was that ronald d moore has the attention span of a fruit fly he can maybe come up with a good idea but then he'll just throw it away as soon as the next one comes up. this is why hes a terrible showrunner but great staff writer.
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rigberry enema posted:liked the setting and tone. the twist seemed pretty obvious early on. tom cruise is a pretty good actor despite being batshit irl. yeah, pretty much all of this except i didn't think tom cruise did all that great a job. not terrible, but nothing really interesting about his character
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frankly im just surprised the trailer for oblivion didnt show tom cruise fighting himself for like 30 seconds or something because trailers giving away the entire loving movie seems to be the new big thing these days
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:nah i enjoy the use of religious allusion that poo poo is cool w/ me i'm talking about the popular perception, not the actuality. i have a preferred translation and everything :3
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king james rules, schofield reference bible drools
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LP97S posted:Started to watch the X-Files on netflix, really not that good through the first season. i love the stand-alone "monster" episodes, the overarching storyline episodes not so much.
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bsg chat: i liked how over 4 seasons there weren't that many bullshit non-story filler episodes. they were there, like the black market episode with bill duke (who rules btw) and the one about unionizing on the fuel processing ship, but overall it felt like the main story was progressing with each show.
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dur posted:holy crap netflix has gotten rid of a lot of poo poo from their streaming section Shaun the Sheep is also gone, which really pissed my dad off
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Product placement in shows is nearly always eyewateringly bad tho i started watching fringe season 4 since i stopped at 3 when it originally aired and just saw this peter: *points to range meter*  olivia: "don't worry, this baby gets plenty of range  "*cut to nissan leaf logo* honestly even though it was just as overt it was better when they were using ford tauruses and poo poo since those are at least a little believable, but lol at the thought of a us government issued japanese electric car its sort of like jack bauer's hyundai genesis
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Anyone reading Worm? I'm addicted to this poo poo now It's a dark YA-ish superhero serial that's been updating twice weekly since 2011. It's not as good as Watchmen but it's got a kind of similar vibe to it
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Quine Connoisseur posted:lol at the thought of a us government issued japanese electric car well...i did once see some EPA folks driving a prius (w/ us government plates)
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rigberry enema posted:bsg chat: i liked how over 4 seasons there weren't that many bullshit non-story filler episodes. they were there, like the black market episode with bill duke (who rules btw) and the one about unionizing on the fuel processing ship, but overall it felt like the main story was progressing with each show. even then, those episodes were the a direct result of previous events in episodes before and felt like a bit of progression in the involved characters, which is decent compared to say picard on sexy adventure
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TOOT BOOT posted:dark YA-ish superhero serial
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There have been some seriously dark YA novels
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TOOT BOOT posted:There have been some seriously dark YA novels
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Sham bam bamina! posted:i wasn't saying "lol, a dark ya-ish superhero serial???" i was saying "lol at this loving baby" and now it's even more appropriate You're lucky I even deigned to respond to a C-tier poster such as yrself
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Your posts seem to ignore that there was a whole Federation-Cardassian war that occurred before the DMZ was established and before the Federation just ~ignored~ the poor squatter colonists. Let's review the timeline: also the federation has infinite energy and infinite resources to give to these people to build new homes. its not even slightly like someone in our time losing their home.
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i want to go back to galactica and live there i want to go please.. make more bsg. i love that ship. i really liked the ep when it was all hosed up and the hull was groaning and stuff. because you went to diff parts and xplored her body. i like how she can just take nukes to her hull plating. i like how she has hull plating and no deflector shields. i like how the cylons just loving shoot people wi bullets and poo poo. I rewatched the miniseries with a friend the other day and remembered why i first fell in love
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TOOT BOOT posted:You're lucky I even deigned to respond to a C-tier poster such as yrself
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your retorts are as sharp as your wit
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TOOT BOOT posted:your retorts are as sharp as your wit 
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