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the tumblr it comes from has all the regions of the world in closer detail. W. Europe is on the 2nd page. Belgium seems preserved
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 Apparently our new Miss America is from Syracuse. Can someone help me locate it 
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Sep 18, 2013 20:25
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Steve Yun posted:
A little bit further to the left, it's in Sicily
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Sep 18, 2013 20:33
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mcustic posted:A little bit further to the left, it's in Sicily She's from Syracuse, NY, lots of people are in a tizzy because she's "arab" (indian.)
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Sep 18, 2013 20:36
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thecolorpurple posted:She's from Syracuse, NY, lots of people are in a tizzy because she's "arab" (indian.) I know, I was joking. e: Here's a map. It's hard to believe that the EU's newest member was at war only eighteen years ago. This is Operation Storm, the final military operation of the Croatian war that freed a third of the country's territory but sent 200 thousand Serb civilians into exile. 
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Sep 18, 2013 20:56
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I-ranians aren't A-rabs, drat it!
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Sep 18, 2013 20:57
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Riso posted:I-ranians aren't A-rabs, drat it! These people neither know nor care. As Stephen Colbert put it, at least 75 people saw a woman in a bikini, and immediately thought: Muslim Fundamentalist. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 18, 2013 |
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Sep 18, 2013 21:10
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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mcustic posted:A little bit further to the left, it's in Sicily God drat it I was going to make this joke.
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Sep 18, 2013 22:19
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Okay, this one makes little sense to me: World Civilizations from Network Analysis  Clustered nations based on co-appearance in media articles. Ireland is with most of Africa? Canada, the UK, and Norway with the middle east? Western Sahara?
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Sep 18, 2013 22:52
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SurgicalOntologist posted:Ireland is with most of Africa?
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Sep 18, 2013 22:56
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Yeah, Ireland is definitely green. Aside from Afghanistan I don't see anything on that map that's particularly surprising, really. It's funny how contained South Asia is, though; I'd be curious about whether Myanmar would be red or yellow, but I guess it actually doesn't exist 
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Sep 18, 2013 23:04
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Why is canada connected to the middle east? Immigration? Also, it's neat to see the connection of Spain and France with their former colonies.
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Sep 18, 2013 23:12
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Lycus posted:Looks green to my eye. Oh yeah, that makes more sense  . It's harder to tell in the small version on the website.
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Sep 18, 2013 23:14
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ekuNNN posted:Why is canada connected to the middle east? Immigration? Oil.
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Sep 18, 2013 23:18
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Stefu posted:Oil. I want to correct you and say 'wars in the middle east' but would that really be a correction?
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Sep 19, 2013 00:01
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The right awnser is that that map is completely bollox.
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Sep 19, 2013 01:38
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Yeah, that map definitely seems off. Isn't the paper it's associated with actually something along the lines of "The world according to Osama Bin Laden?" That still makes lumping Canada and the UK in with the Middle East really weird and hosed up.
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Sep 19, 2013 02:12
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'Hmm, yeah, all that research is probably bullshit because it just doesn't feel right,' said a bunch of people on the internet. Canada is a major player in the energy and resource market, as is Norway. Britain's just up in everyone's poo poo and many countries in the Middle East (especially Iran) are pretty obsessed with Britain. This isn't just about major news articles either - business pages count too. Anyway, there's nothing particularly shocking about the map. e: I'd also like to point out that Canada and Norway are blue because nobody gives a poo poo about Canada and Norway in terms of politics, so economics take over. R. Mute fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 02:24
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Sep 19, 2013 02:31
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R. Mute posted:Canada is a major player in the energy and resource market, as is Norway. So are Kazakhstan and Venezuela. On the other hand, Pakistan and Somalia are not.
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Sep 19, 2013 02:35
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dethslayer666 posted:So are Kazakhstan and Venezuela. On the other hand, Pakistan and Somalia are not.
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Sep 19, 2013 02:38
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I'd wager Canada has more international clout than pretty much all the African nations who are the same color on that map.
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Sep 19, 2013 02:43
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Fojar38 posted:I'd wager Canada has more international clout than pretty much all the African nations who are the same color on that map. I thought that Nigeria was a major oil exporter.
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Sep 19, 2013 02:46
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Fojar38 posted:I'd wager Canada has more international clout than pretty much all the African nations who are the same color on that map. I mentioned that Canada is insignificant in political terms, because this is about them appearing in media. If Canada appears in any international media, they rarely get a say in important political matters. However, when it's about economical news, they get mentioned all the time for ruining and exploiting so many countries. I wasn't trying to put down Canada or make it a dick-waving contest between nations - seeing as that's not what the map's showing -, I'm just explaining why Canada might be linked to the Middle East.
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quote:I mentioned that Canada is insignificant in political terms, because this is about them appearing in media. If Canada appears in any international media, they rarely get a say in important political matters. However, when it's about economical news, they get mentioned all the time for ruining and exploiting so many countries. Er, hold on. When I think "countries that have exploited others" Canada and Norway aren't really high on the list. I'm Canadian myself and I am completely unaware of any sort of disdain for Canada economically in the international media. Second, if that's what it's measuring then it doesn't make sense for the great powers such as the US, China, and Russia to be grouped the way that they are. When I think China I don't really think "positive reputation" or "positive links with its neighbours." I don't think the map is measuring what either of us think it is.
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Fojar38 posted:Er, hold on. When I think "countries that have exploited others" Canada and Norway aren't really high on the list. I'm Canadian myself and I am completely unaware of any sort of disdain for Canada economically in the international media. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/guatemalans-can-sue-hudbay-in-canada-judge-rules-1.1370459 http://thetyee.ca/News/2009/03/03/CanMining/ http://www.focusonline.ca/?q=node/503 There's also a bunch of cases where Canada sues poor countries for not sticking to their deals. These things won't make huge headlines, though. quote:Second, if that's what it's measuring then it doesn't make sense for the great powers such as the US, China, and Russia to be grouped the way that they are. When I think China I don't really think "positive reputation" or "positive links with its neighbours." e: oh, the paper's actually online. I'll check it out.
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I'm wondering why Spain is grouped with America instead of Europe. Is there a lot of overlap between Spanish culture and Latin American culture?
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Konstantin posted:I'm wondering why Spain is grouped with America instead of Europe. Is there a lot of overlap between Spanish culture and Latin American culture? I want you to think about that sentence you just wrote there for a second.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:09
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So, the sources it uses seem to be the New York Times since 1945 and about 100.000 web based articles - all in English. (which should skew the results a certain way, at least) As to the positive/negative thing: quote:Sentiment mining counts up the number of words in a document that appear in precompiled dictionaries of “positive” and “negative” words to determine the density of emotional language and its overall “tone.” A document with many words like “terrible”, “awful”, and “horrific”, and few words like “good” or “nice” would be given a highly negative score by the algorithm, while one with more positive language would be given a more positive score.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:13
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What's Norway's reason for being so negatively viewed then?
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Fojar38 posted:What's Norway's reason for being so negatively viewed then? The 2011 terrorist attacks produced a lot of articles with very negative language.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:The 2011 terrorist attacks produced a lot of articles with very negative language. If true, that really hurts the map as an analysis of anything but the most superficial.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:26
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Fojar38 posted:If true, that really hurts the map as an analysis of anything but the most superficial. I think that trying to paint the world in 5 (Ostentatiously 7 since South Asia sans Pakistan is it's own color and Burma is unreported) is kinda superficial from the get go.
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R. Mute posted:'Hmm, yeah, all that research is probably bullshit because it just doesn't feel right,' said a bunch of people on the internet. If Spain is aligned with the Americas because the crawler automatically associates mentions of "Spanish" with it, it's a safe assumption that the UK is lined up with most of the oil countries because the crawler associates "British Petroleum" with it.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:41
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Western Sahara was a Spanish colony, so that's probably why it's associated with Spain.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:44
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e: whoops, wrong thread
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Sep 19, 2013 03:54
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R. Mute posted:'Hmm, yeah, all that research is probably bullshit because it just doesn't feel right,' said a bunch of people on the internet. When a paper is called "Culturomics 2.0", several bullshit indicators should be going off... That said, it's a vaguely interesting conclusion based on what it measures. The real bullshit resides in slapping on these collocations the Huntingtonian term "civilizations", which the paper doesn't bother justifying in any depth and which has nothing obvious to do with what the paper is measuring, which is primarily how often the given countries are mentioned together. And as far as I can tell, the paper only collects English-language news (from international news aggregators and other places).
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Sep 19, 2013 04:25
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I'm guessing the reason Norway and Canada are often mentioned together is the Arctic Council? e: And that they don't get that much mention otherwise, at least not like the other members on the Council do.
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We're also western democracies with a poo poo ton of oil that make an interesting comparative study. Norway has seen an economic boon and managed to save a lot of the profits generated in a Sovereign Wealth Fund. Alberta tried to do that, but we've failed miserably at the latter; gross mismanagement isn't the only reason why, but it's a big part of it.
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Fojar38 posted:Er, hold on. When I think "countries that have exploited others" Canada and Norway aren't really high on the list. I'm Canadian myself and I am completely unaware of any sort of disdain for Canada economically in the international media. So yea, the public and media here has a pretty negative perception of Canada these days (which is funny since the biggest shareholders in that canadian mining venture are actually Israelis and Americans)
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