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madjackmcmad posted:I'm not going to try to talk you out of your "gently caress developers I pay what I want" stance, but you should bone up on your understanding of the word profit. There's no production cost and distribution costs are negligible, was my point. Really big name games can get away with charging $60 because they're worth it, they're the flagship games that have been advertising all year and took tens of millions to make. But not every game in the industry is a BF4 or COD. And if you look at Steam, they've found that most games aren't worth $60 but sell great at lower prices, even as low as $5. Now, they still release at $60 and do some pre-order exclusive shenanigans to squeeze $60 out of who they can, but they drop to reasonable prices within a week or two, that's crazy. But whatever, that's an argument for some other place. Back to KS. That's different though. There's a difference between "$20 for the game, $40 gets you early access too if you really like us" and "pay $20 for an alpha, you get nothing else, we may never even make the full game and if we do we'll charge you for it separately". The project is literally the alpha, and buying even high tiers doesn't get you the final game.. Also would you stop with the "gently caress developers I pay what I want" already? I never loving said that. That has nothing to do with the point I was making and I would never say that. gently caress, I AM a developer!
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Zaphod42 posted:gently caress, I AM a developer! Quite loving yourself, bro. Quit loving yourself. And I also think it's pretty poo poo, but as long as the transaction is made in good faith and fully disclosed of risk, I don't think there's a problem. I do find it annoying when they're sold in the exact same location as fullly finished titles on a distributor's storefront (Steam  ), but whatever. I wish they'd be in their own separate are, like how demos are. No demo is on the main store page, it's in it's own little place, off to the side.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:03
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After reading the discussion about tiny legs being the new style, I can't stop noticing it:
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Oct 30, 2013 19:06
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Dropsy hit its goal and still has 25 days left. Well done dude, way better campaign this time. You're going to sweep the rest of your stretch goals handily. (we just need to get him up to $26,000+)
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Oct 30, 2013 19:09
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Because they want the huge bucketloads of money they think Ghosts 'n Goblins will bring in. Excuuuuuuuuuuse me, but Maldita Castilla came out less than a year ago, and it's a better G'n'G game than pretty much everything that came out after the SNES.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:12
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miguelito posted:Excuuuuuuuuuuse me, but Maldita Castilla came out less than a year ago, and it's a better G'n'G game than pretty much everything that came out after the SNES. Or you could just play Volgarr the Viking. I'm not sure how much it plays like the old G'n'G games, but it's likely infinitely better than whatever these guys are working on.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:17
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miguelito posted:Excuuuuuuuuuuse me, but Maldita Castilla came out less than a year ago, and it's a better G'n'G game than pretty much everything that came out after the SNES. Well this is pretty neat.
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Both Maldita Castilla and Volgar The Viking are two games really worth checking out. Maldita is basically a big fat love letter to the GNG series where as Volgar the Viking has gameplay similar. I know that sounds weird but Maldita feels more GNG with the mechanics where as Volgar is more of GNG hard.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:39
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Shindragon posted:Both Maldita Castilla and Volgar The Viking are two games really worth checking out. Maldita is basically a big fat love letter to the GNG series where as Volgar the Viking has gameplay similar. I know that sounds weird but Maldita feels more GNG with the mechanics where as Volgar is more of GNG hard. Volgar is like Rastan grew a big sack of balls, sold his life bar for a SNES copy of GNG, then sprinked in a dash of Quackshot's plunger wall climb because why not. It's super fun but yes, crazy difficult.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:48
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Hahah yeah that is one way to say it. But yeah also both games do the whole, oh you can continue, but you'll get the crappy ending. I think Maldita had like 4 endings.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Who loves Ghosts 'n Goblins! I do, and so do other people! That's why these guys want to Kickstart a new GnG game! Only medieval instruments! *Generic-as-gently caress techno track playing in the background* That's wrong on so many levels.  e: "Level Designer on: F-Zero GX!" got me excited for a second. Then I realized that the level design is the only thing about F-Zero GX that isn't all that impresive. 
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Oct 30, 2013 19:56
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Holy poo poo that sandbox game posted a few pages back is the worst KS I have ever seen. I'm really surprised he has two backers.
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Last call for PULSAR: Lost Colony, which already hit its goal; 16 hours left http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/leafygames/pulsar-lost-colony Its pretty much the proper Star Trek game that never was, by way of FTL mixed with Artemis.
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Oct 30, 2013 20:41
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Here's the current status concerning how hype a Smash Bros Melee competitor could get funding wise if it was all about the Smash but without any of the Bros. Maybe it'll fare better next time around. The update says they're going to rework the artwork so they've got that going for them now at least.
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Shalinor posted:Dropsy hit its goal and still has 25 days left. How did I miss this? Thanks and backed. Dropsy really feels like the Something Awful version of Monkey Island to me. I can't wait to see the game produced.
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diadem posted:How did I miss this? Thanks and backed. I broke the Dropsy flash game.  Died on the door scare. Broke it again, by jumping through the floor.  This game is creeping me out just through its glitches. RadicalR fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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Oct 30, 2013 21:38
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RadicalR posted:I broke the Dropsy flash game. Yeeeeah, I maybe should've waited on that one.
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Gaspy Conana posted:Yeeeeah, I maybe should've waited on that one. It's not bad! But the glitchly nature of the game makes this distracting.
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RadicalR posted:It's not bad! But the glitchly nature of the game makes this distracting. Thanks! Do you guys think I should address the game's bugginess in subsequent updates or just leave it alone? I just don't want it to reflect badly on the campaign, especially since our programmer had nothing to do with it. It's probably not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be. Also, here's how it SHOULD look and play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc51UNF7pXw
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Jane Austen novels are horrid but I really want to see Jane Austen Online get made because the griefing opportunities would be immense.
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The Scratching Post A collab from wolf pupy and Famicon, best known for bart the general. Should be interesting, if nothing else.
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Gaspy Conana posted:Thanks! Do you guys think I should address the game's bugginess in subsequent updates or just leave it alone? I just don't want it to reflect badly on the campaign, especially since our programmer had nothing to do with it. It's probably not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be. I think Honesty is the best policy. Also, fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it. I want to keep playing!
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Gaspy Conana posted:Thanks! Do you guys think I should address the game's bugginess in subsequent updates or just leave it alone? I just don't want it to reflect badly on the campaign, especially since our programmer had nothing to do with it. It's probably not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be. This is my own personal experience, but when I'd talk about bugs and fix them, backers ate it up. They loved seeing the sausage get made. When I'd do development livestreams the bugs were some of the best parts.
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Zaphod42 posted:Now, they still release at $60 and do some pre-order exclusive shenanigans to squeeze $60 out of who they can, but they drop to reasonable prices within a week or two, that's crazy. But whatever, that's an argument for some other place. Back to KS. It's called price discrimination, and it's a pretty standard marketing method. It's why hardcover books come before softcover books, why you have to go to a theater to see a movie before the DVD release, and why EA has their the "digital deluxe" editions with extra swag. Edit: or why kickstarters have different pledge levels for that matter. Alien Rope Burn fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Oct 31, 2013 15:36
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My relaunch passed 50% in 13 hours 
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diadem posted:My relaunch passed 50% in 13 hours Not really that surprising, since the new target is the amount the old Kickstarter ended at, and you asked all of your old backers to back again as fast as possible?
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Gaspy Conana posted:Thanks! Do you guys think I should address the game's bugginess in subsequent updates or just leave it alone? I just don't want it to reflect badly on the campaign, especially since our programmer had nothing to do with it. It's probably not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be. I think you'll have to apologize and fix it up a little, as well as put up a video of how it *should* play. I'd edit it out of the update at the very start, but I believe you can only do that within the first 30 minutes of posting.
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Tamba posted:Not really that surprising, since the new target is the amount the old Kickstarter ended at, and you asked all of your old backers to back again as fast as possible? Is there a reason to be so grouchy and negative?
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It just seems kinda scammy to relaunch a kickstarter with the goal set to the amount the old one failed at. They didn't even mention that it's the second try or why they were able to lower the amount this much.
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diadem posted:My relaunch passed 50% in 13 hours Still laughing at that Tim B^Uckley card. Card games are cool though. I can't get enough card games.
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Tamba posted:It just seems kinda scammy to relaunch a kickstarter with the goal set to the amount the old one failed at. They didn't even mention that it's the second try or why they were able to lower the amount this much. Name of the Kickstarter is literally: Alteil Horizons - turn based tactics card game - Relaunch
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Tamba posted:It just seems kinda scammy to relaunch a kickstarter with the goal set to the amount the old one failed at. They didn't even mention that it's the second try or why they were able to lower the amount this much. To be fair, they sorta mention it in the title ("Relaunch" is tacked on to the end) and a few of the reward levels. But yeah, it's scummy as hell otherwise and it still gives money to Buckley so nope.
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Yeah, and that's the only place where the mention it. Then the text goes on to talk about Alteil 1, so people who didn't know about the first kickstarter just think it refers to relaunching that game. vvvv Huh, either I didn't see that Addendum, or it was added later. anyway, I'll just shut up now. Tamba fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Tamba posted:It just seems kinda scammy to relaunch a kickstarter with the goal set to the amount the old one failed at. They didn't even mention that it's the second try or why they were able to lower the amount this much. You mean aside from the word relaunch in the title or the explanation as to why we are relaunching for a smaller goal with more rewards under the massive "why kickstarter" image? Kyrosiris posted:To be fair, they sorta mention it in the title ("Relaunch" is tacked on to the end) and a few of the reward levels. Tim is showing his support because he wants me to achieve my dream. He is not getting paid for the relaunch. Tamba posted:Yeah, and that's the only place where the mention it. Then the text goes on to talk about Alteil 1, so people who didn't know about the first kickstarter just think it refers to relaunching that game. I'm not trying to be confrontational with this one - I'm honestly confused as to where you are coming from. From the Kickstarter: quote:Since the first Kickstarter we've made a deal with a game company in another country to develop a version of Alteil Horizons for them at the same time. Thanks to that deal, we were able to lower our goal to its current amount. What is wrong with this? Are you saying that it's critical I mention there was an old kickstarter all over the page instead of where it's relevant, despite the fact too much information was one of the big problems of the orignal? I'm trying to figure out why you are so upset at that, and why you are throwing personal insults. I took a massive paycut to follow my dream, which involves making people happy. I saved personal funds for a long time, living off ramen instead of lobster and steak I was used to. I quit my job which would have provided for me personally so that I can focus on my project. I made sure my employees got paid while I took nothing. When I reach a point where I can show what I've made and am capable of I ask for help. I am making sure I avoid payment channels that would insist making the game pay to win. I've been honest and upfront this whole time, and now you call me scummy? diadem fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB4Kcoe0NGY I don't think anyone has talked about Kitaru [a KS'd game from June of last year] much here, but I find myself strangely attracted to it regardless. I mean, it's totally jank all the way around, but at the same time the developers clearly have a lot of ambition and at least some degree of skill. I'll probably drop :tenbux: on it when it finally comes out.
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diadem posted:I took a massive paycut to follow my dream, which involves making people happy. I saved personal funds for a long time, living off ramen instead of lobster and steak I was used to. I quit my job which would have provided for me personally so that I can focus on my project. I made sure my employees got paid while I took nothing. When I reach a point where I can show what I've made and am capable of I ask for help. I am making sure I avoid payment channels that would insist making the game pay to win. Boo loving hoo. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Man you guys are really angry about this card game Kickstarter for some reason.
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Yeah the people who are super mad about this relaunch are way weird!! It's just video games. Video games crowdfunding.
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Try building something Baloogan, instead of just being an rear end in a top hat. I'll be waiting here for your kickstarter.
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