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Huh. Sigma has a 3D model? And he's a solo in that flashback/forward/sideways.
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Tenmyouji is a horny old man, and already Quarks picking it up from him, like he's his wingman.
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Color Printer posted:Yes it is, and it's got the same loving spoiler as the Wikipedia page linked earlier. Oh. I didn't bother scrolling down, I just did a Ctrl + F for a couple of the words. I guess I'm glad that I didn't scroll down, now. Link removed.
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Nov 15, 2013 22:56
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I know we're all discussing the crazy sequence of events at the end there and how they finally brought up the Prisoner's Dilemma. And that's all well and great. But please tell me that I'm not the only one disturbed by the fact that Tenmyouji is talking so casually about his porn collection to Quark. 
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Nov 15, 2013 22:58
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:But please tell me that I'm not the only one disturbed by the fact that Tenmyouji is talking so casually about his porn collection to Quark. Disturbed? Not really, I mean Tenmyouji is pretty vague about what the videos are and keeps them locked up. How old is Quark anyways? I don't know if it's ever stated but he seems like he's about 12-13.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:05
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Don't get so hung up on Tammy being so casual - it's not the first time a grandpa has mentioned porn to someone wholly inappropriate (sfw) As far as the flashback, I'm more interested in Alice - in the other paths she was stabbed in the crew quarters, but this time it looks like something happened outside? There's no blood, but her position sure looks more like she's dead than tired/relieved
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Nov 15, 2013 23:06
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Penakoto posted:How old is Quark anyways? I don't know if it's ever stated but he seems like he's about 12-13. Quark is 10 years old, looks like.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:07
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Schrodinger's cat is Schrodinger's dead old woman. Therefore, the dead old woman is a cat, and talking about her will make Sigma lapse into cat puns.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:17
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Poland Spring posted:oh HELL YES, things just got super interesting. MORPHIC FIELD POWERS, ACTIVATE! I think you mean "everyone is a robot" powers. Edit: Seriously, has everyone forgotten there's a whole warehouse full of clone robots?
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Nov 15, 2013 23:18
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A bit late with this, but this girl's hair and the sticker under the eye make her look like adult Clover with some Alice thrown in the mix. Too bad we can't actually compare them with the game's general lack of proper 2D artwork.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:35
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:But please tell me that I'm not the only one disturbed by the fact that Tenmyouji is talking so casually about his porn collection to Quark. It's not porn. The secret file from the update before this was talking about this conversation. Fedule posted:Grandpa Videos:
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Nov 15, 2013 23:52
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My mistake. Not sure how I missed that file. So, I guess it's more like posing bikini models or something.
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Nov 16, 2013 00:35
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I think it's really funny that he's got Quark rating women on the Erotic Unit scale with him.
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Nov 16, 2013 00:38
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DarkHamsterlord posted:I think it's really funny that he's got Quark rating women on the Erotic Unit scale with him. Hey, gotta teach from a young age! He will make a connoisseur out of his grandson!
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Nov 16, 2013 00:57
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So Sigma was expecting the old woman too? It kinda sounded like it but he didn't specifically expect the old woman just someone. Morphic fields I guess, now it feels a little more like 999.
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Nov 16, 2013 01:01
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The scenes here make it seem like the developers were expecting people to go through the cyan door first. We had the long-winded explanation of the prisoner's dilemma, which the entire game revolves around, and what looks like visions of potential future paths. I suppose they knew people who completed 999 would be curious about Alice and probably go with her hoping to learn something about her. Which at this point on the path you really haven't. 
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Alpha3KV posted:The scenes here make it seem like the developers were expecting people to go through the cyan door first. We had the long-winded explanation of the prisoner's dilemma, which the entire game revolves around, and what looks like visions of potential future paths. I suppose they knew people who completed 999 would be curious about Alice and probably go with her hoping to learn something about her. Which at this point on the path you really haven't. That's debatable. The Magenta route also has a few scenes that would only have any impact if it were your first time through. Especially how that route is the only time the voting has a sense of urgency and suspense.
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I've been waiting for the Morphic Field Theory to kick in again. And it kicks in with a vengeance 
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So people have already posted about seeing this route first, but seeing this branch last hits you equally hard. I was boring and filled in the chart from left to right (as best I could, with locks and all), so when I got to this point I was thinking "wait, I've seen the dead woman reveal twice before, why won't it let me skip?" followed shortly by "something is WRONG there's no dead lady WHAT HAPPENED"
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Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but here is a link to BoardGameGeek's entry for Agricola, that obscure German farm-based game that Phi mentioned a few updates back. Have a look at the first listed publisher 
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Instant Grat posted:Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but here is a link to BoardGameGeek's entry for Agricola, that obscure German farm-based game that Phi mentioned a few updates back. It all makes sense now, Zero was getting his butt whipped in Agricola so he set up the Nonary Game so he could use Sigma via morphic fields to discover a foolproof winning strategy  Actually based on a quick cursory glance at the rules and some reviews this game actually sounds kind of cool. Maybe I should try it one of these days.
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Yeah, I've only played it with the basic rules, but Agricola is pretty great and I was really surprised to see them mention the name. Although that was more because I was even more familiar with another Agricola who practically founded written Finnish. "Oh, the board game... makes sense."
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While reading the update I was thinking that it was pretty cool that whatever your third route is, it changes to include these scenes, but it turns out this is always how this route plays out? While having that as a first route is quite cool it feels like it has more impact after the other two, when you're expecting something similar and then get hit with those scenes instead.
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Nov 16, 2013 16:56
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Fedule posted:This was way back in our first path, just before the first AB round. Fedule posted:A few people have brought up the old lady not being in our polling room... But I don't think that anyone's pointed out that the AB room hasn't been moved yet? I wonder who went into the room on the other end?
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Zack Ater posted:A few people have brought up the old lady not being in our polling room... But I don't think that anyone's pointed out that the AB room hasn't been moved yet? I wonder who went into the room on the other end? I'm thinking that whoever did go in that AB room knew that the old lady was in there already (probably because they killed her or are Zero) and didn't say anything. But that doesn't mean that the murderer is the same person that moved the rooms. If I was right that the killer knew she'd be there, it would have to be a solo and Tenmyouji is the only one to be visibly shaken by the discovery. I'm currently more interested in this: Shouldn't Zero know who K is? Presumably Zero Sr. knows who he kidnapped. Or is this just because Zero knows that K has amnesia? (I've been only reading Fedule's posts until recently, forgive me if this has been discussed to death already.) DWK fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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DWK posted:Shouldn't Zero know who K is? Presumably Zero Sr. knows who he kidnapped. Or is this just because Zero knows that K has amnesia? (I've been only reading Fedule's posts until recently, forgive me if this has been discussed to death already.) There could be a number of reasons for this response. Maybe Zero III wasn't informed who K is. Or maybe he's just being a smartass. After all, remember how June reacted to Junpei in 999. 999 posted:
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Jumpy, are you hiding something from me?
No! Why would I!?
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Nov 16, 2013 18:41
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:There could be a number of reasons for this response. It's always fun in hindsight seeing Junpei get played like a fiddle 
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Battle Pigeon posted:While reading the update I was thinking that it was pretty cool that whatever your third route is, it changes to include these scenes, but it turns out this is always how this route plays out? While having that as a first route is quite cool it feels like it has more impact after the other two, when you're expecting something similar and then get hit with those scenes instead. I would assume the dialog about Sigma expecting someone in there changes. I never actually did that route first though. The stuff about remembering Phi and all that makes sense though, since her mysteriously knowing you was part of her introduction.
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Clarste posted:I would assume the dialog about Sigma expecting someone in there changes. Seems unlikely, probably just adds it to the heap of "things that only make sense later" that the series loves to pile up. E: Or not Kanfy fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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Clarste posted:I would assume the dialog about Sigma expecting someone in there changes. I never actually did that route first though. The stuff about remembering Phi and all that makes sense though, since her mysteriously knowing you was part of her introduction. Yes that line is added.
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Nov 16, 2013 21:35
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Bruceski posted:Yes that line is added. Let me get this right. So we only get the line about Sigma expecting someone if we had seen the dead old lady in another route?
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If that's true I will be surprised - I thought that the routes stayed the same regardless of order played (locks excepted, obviously).
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EagerSleeper posted:Let me get this right. So we only get the line about Sigma expecting someone if we had seen the dead old lady in another route? Yes. There are a few other scenes which only show up if you had seen something else beforehand; then they get added the next time you see the scene.
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Bruceski posted:Yes that line is added. I'm pretty sure it isn't. You see it even if you do that route first, I think. I'm thinking this because SGF is streaming some VLR each weekend, and he chose this route first and still got the line, I'm pretty sure. Apologies if I'm mistaken.
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smenj posted:I'm pretty sure it isn't. You see it even if you do that route first, I think. I'm thinking this because SGF is streaming some VLR each weekend, and he chose this route first and still got the line, I'm pretty sure. Apologies if I'm mistaken. I'm watching SGF's run too and I think you're right. But it's easy to check as he's recording the whole thing. I would but my toddler is watching Abney and Teal and wouldn't be impressed if it was replaced by "boring grown up cartoons".
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We don't know if the line is added or not since this is our only play of this path. The only way we would know if the line would actually change or if it was just a permanently scripted detail (like the other gif we weren't supposed to slow down) to make you go "whoa" in hindsight is to completely delete the save and restart the entire path (and even then, if the game is meant to gently caress with you that much, maybe it stores whatever information in a non-savefile place). The only real way to find out if it is a coincidence or not is to just press forward in this path and see if there are any mentions of things we don't already know. The "nobody's here" is subtle enough where it could simply go over someone's head if this path were first, so it could easily just be part of the normal script
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Sentient Data posted:We don't know if the line is added or not since this is our only play of this path. SGF did Cyan first on his stream and has gone past the first AB vote. Sigma's line about no one being in the AB room was still there, there aren't any changes.
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And that's quite enough of talking about that.
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