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Bread Set Jettison posted:who is that Rick character anyways has he always been there? He's the one that wore that sherrif hat all the time. I don't know why he suddenly grew up so fast though, I mean, he was a kid like just last season, right? This show is all over the place with time.
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PaganGoatPants posted:People still missed it. Rewatch needed. To be fair to the viewers, they probably forgot all about it while they were laughing their asses off at the governor's sick juke of a zombie. 
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Nov 19, 2013 21:39
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euphronius posted:It would not make any thematic sense for the Gov's daughter to think he was the black king. Well obviously the only sense to make here is instead of a kid drawing on something white that she's a friggen racist and that luggage she was hauling had her hood and cloak tucked in it
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Nov 19, 2013 21:45
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Bedurndurn posted:To be fair to the viewers, they probably forgot all about it while they were laughing their asses off at the governor's sick juke of a zombie. I think you mean his unguardable cross-over. 
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Nov 19, 2013 21:58
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zoux posted:I think you mean his unguardable cross-over. I should've known the internet had taken care of it and not bothered downloading gifcam.
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zoux posted:I think you mean his unguardable cross-over. Okay, this got me. That's hilarious.
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Christ. I don't blame him. I really don't. And what bothers me more is a lot of fans ARE happy with his departure. Not in a "It's different, but I still like it." way, but in a "Darabont was a knob who wanted to see things with characters that aren't Rick and Crew, so he sucks." It's frustrating to read. I do miss Darabont. I feel like he would've handled this whole Governor thing a lot better then anyone else. I would be one of the few people who really didn't like this episode at all. They tried to make the Governor an actual character here, and I appreciate that....but I hate the character so much for being a silly cartoon, that honestly, you're going to need more then 3 episodes to get him on my side. I wish they had spread that story out through the season, so we see him slowly, very slowly become a better person. I feel like that would've been a bit more easier to swallow. Hell, Carol's been getting better since Season 3, and I feel like she finally hit her peak with this season.....so of course they got rid of her..ugh. I don't know. I'm curious to see where it goes, but I'm not looking forward to the next episode. Just not a fan of that character, guys. But David Morrisay is awesome. I think he does put on a good performance.
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CelticPredator posted:Hell, Carol's been getting better since Season 3, and I feel like she finally hit her peak with this season.....so of course they got rid of her..ugh. I don't know. I'm curious to see where it goes, but I'm not looking forward to the next episode. Just not a fan of that character, guys. Just because Carol isn't with the group doesn't mean she's out of the show. This season has kept its episodes focused on as few characters as possible, so I don't think its out of the question that we might see an episode focused on her as well.
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I really hope so. I miss her actually. Aside from going out of character there, I really think she became a strong survivor. Which I liked a lot. So i'm excited for her return.
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Nov 19, 2013 22:23
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They brought back the governor when they had no reason to and plenty of justification for never showing him again. We will see Carol again.
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Nov 19, 2013 22:44
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The governor plot is basically this?
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Theglavwen posted:Speaking of the Gov's alias, what the hell was up with that? Why were those barn people so obsessed with Brian Heriot? I mean, his name was written on that barn like 12 times, half the time not even in conjunction with anything. Not even 'Brian Heriot wuz here' or something, just "Brian Heriot". Actually, there were messages to Brian Heriot on the side of the barn- with one being pretty sad and tragic. It was obvious his loved ones knew he would come looking for them if he was still alive and left it there for him to see.
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I knew it! Just remembered to check the cast list, and did any Arrow fans recognise Lilly's actress from last week's episode as Diggle's ex who had to be rescued from the Russian prison?
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Yeah, there were a couple, 'Don't come home Brian' etc., but half of them were just his name scrawled pointlessly, like, three Brians for every message.
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Nov 20, 2013 03:31
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This was a sad episode. The grandfather on oxygen with cancer, the ill prepared women. Very sad.
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And yet, someone in this thread thought that was the Govenors real name.
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Did anyone else feel this weeks episode was like a real take on the video game? It felt Gov was the PC with such little dialogue and you could almost feel the multiple choice questions pop up with the time bar running out whenever he had to say something. Maybe it was just me though...
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Which is all you need to know as to why they put the name up there in big letters multiple times.
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I actually also missed the fact that the Gov borrowed the name written on the barn  Best thing to do is actually watching the episode, read through 20 pages of forum, and then rewatch. (well, only the good episodes which thankfully have been plenty this season. Even if the remaining episodes are all poo poo I would still consider this season to be the best so far.)
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Theglavwen posted:Yeah, there were a couple, 'Don't come home Brian' etc., but half of them were just his name scrawled pointlessly, like, three Brians for every message. Well, TWD viewers.
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Nov 20, 2013 14:11
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Kind of funny we haven't had any significant Darryl screentime for about 3 episodes in a row, and people aren't flaming about it. Imagine this would have happened one or two seasons ago.
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Evernoob posted:Kind of funny we haven't had any significant Darryl screentime for about 3 episodes in a row, and people aren't flaming about it. I'm pissed about it, but only because I can't stand cliffhanger moments (finding out about Carol) being held off for two freaking episodes. However, we did need a bit of a breather after the prior one, I guess. I just want to see if Daryl freaks out or not.
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Evernoob posted:Kind of funny we haven't had any significant Darryl screentime for about 3 episodes in a row, and people aren't flaming about it.
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Svanja posted:I'm pissed about it, but only because I can't stand cliffhanger moments (finding out about Carol) being held off for two freaking episodes. I'm bad at making predictions though, I just moan about other peoples 
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Rick: Sorry man, but she admitted killing those two to me herself. I had no choice. Daryl: loving impossible man! You lie. Rick: Why? Daryl: Because she was with me all night that night! DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNNN Cue to Clip from Next Week on The Walking Dead From AMC.
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Maybe I'm the only one but if they did something that over the top cheesy I'd love this show forever.
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Redundant posted:I don't think Darryl will freak out. They did a worse thing to his brother and he was still mostly chilled out about it. He may want to go looking for her but after his speech to Michonne I think he will be convinced to stay and keep helping the group due to the severity of the situation. I assume he will be all ready to go search for her, but since the Governor shows up he will stay.
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zoux posted:We say the Governor is a monster, but mostly he just has a bigger body count than some other characters who have done similar things that only cost a few lives rather than dozens or more. This is stupider than that one time the guy posted in this thread who didn't know that everyone turns into a zombie when they died.
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Doctor Butts posted:This is stupider than that one time the guy posted in this thread who didn't know that everyone turns into a zombie when they died. No it's a legit question, I actually watch the show Doctor Butts. But I guess you probably make power rankings of what is the most bad guy on TV.
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I think the rape/torture complex is probably where the Gov went over the line from being "just" a different model of leadership in a bad situation. The contrast between him and Rick though is/was a cool commentary on American politics though.
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zoux posted:No it's a legit question, I actually watch the show Doctor Butts. But I guess you probably make power rankings of what is the most bad guy on TV. No its loving retarded because you're saying that the Governor is only worse than the other characters because he has a bigger body count. Which is totally disregarding the loving rape, torture, zombie thunderdome, and loving murder squads.
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euphronius posted:I think the rape/torture complex is probably where the Gov went over the line from being "just" a different model of leadership in a bad situation. Access to means, I think it's important to consider whether intent or outcome is a bigger indicator of "monsterhood". Like when people in this thread are literally cheering the murder of that one dude by Carl or going bonkers in favor of all the anti-social murderous behavior that we see week to week are monsters or not. Doctor Butts posted:No its loving retarded because you're saying that the Governor is only worse than the other characters because he has a bigger body count. Which is totally disregarding the loving rape, torture, zombie thunderdome, and loving murder squads. Oh I see, my shorthand has confused you. Yes I know all those things happened, but relative morality vs. survival is a major theme in this show. If new Carol had been in the Governor's position, then would you be surprised about her doing all the same stuff? The Governor is the ultimate end of that "survival for my group" line of thinking. Farmer Rick would be the ultimate end of the "try to maintain humanity in the face of overwhelming horror" being the other end of the spectrum. zoux fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Doctor Butts posted:No its loving retarded because you're saying that the Governor is only worse than the other characters because he has a bigger body count. Which is totally disregarding the loving rape, torture, and loving murder squads. Also his head aquariums and feeding strangers to his daughter.
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zoux posted:No it's a legit question, I actually watch the show Doctor Butts. But I guess you probably make power rankings of what is the most bad guy on TV. No, sorry. The Gov is a cartoonly evil character. They wrote him as such a polar evil character that they ruined him. Then this season they are trying a total do-over. zoux posted:The Governor is the ultimate end of that "survival for my group" line of thinking. Farmer Rick would be the ultimate end of the "try to maintain humanity in the face of overwhelming horror" being the other end of the spectrum. Dude not even. The Governor didn't give a gently caress about his townpeople. His whole kind-leader routine was an act, it was all about power and revenge. He murdered people and fed them to zombies, and mass murdered his own army. That's not "survival for my group" it was all personal. Baldbeard fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Evernoob posted:I actually also missed the fact that the Gov borrowed the name written on the barn I'm not going to be bothered to read a loving wall in an episode that is already more dull than watching paint dry. Goddamn how long was that loving scene, 130 minutes? Once there were other people it was more interesting, but with more long slow dull passages He should have named himself Pea Tear Gryphon. zoux posted:Like when people in this thread are literally cheering the murder of that one dude by Carl Who did Carl murder? He shot a guy who refused to put down his weapon.
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zoux posted:Access to means, I think it's important to consider whether intent or outcome is a bigger indicator of "monsterhood". Like when people in this thread are literally cheering the murder of that one dude by Carl or going bonkers in favor of all the anti-social murderous behavior that we see week to week are monsters or not. Yeah rick also sexually assaulted and tortured people it's really the same.
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     messagemode1 posted:Yeah rick also sexually assaulted and tortured people it's really the same. No it's not the same which is why I said it was the opposite.
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zoux posted:No it's not the same which is why I said it was the opposite.  good lord this thread is dense.
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zoux posted:The Governor is the ultimate end of that "survival for my group" line of thinking. The Governor is the ultimate end of that "survival for myself" line of thinking.
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Listen I'mma make this quick checklist for someone being a bad guy or not: Do you have a speculum in your torture kit [ ] Yes [ ] No Ok if the dude checks Yes he is totally 100% evil forever and all time the end. I'm glad to help people out here.
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