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thexerox123 posted:Yes yes, we all know he's good at writing fiction. This isn't Reddit. Could you quit acting like it is? Would be nice. Anyways, about what the thread is actually made for: dunno what else to say about the 50th. I have my own theory about part of it, which is on the previous page, but I'm really wondering what surprises they have in store for us. I'm still hoping for a Hurt-to-Eccleston regeneration somewhere in the special. Oh, also! Totally forgot; remember ages ago when we saw a screenshot of Coal Hill Secondary School sign (where Ian and Barbara taught), and it said "CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNORS: I. CHESTERTON"? I think we might just get an Ian cameo! At least, I hope  It'd be perfect, tying the show back to its beginnings within the show (like they already did that with the docudrama, but I mean in the show having that connection and linkage made would be great). It'd also be interesting if Smith met Ian, considering Ian never learned about regeneration. But this is getting ahead of ourselves - for all we know, the sign may be the only cameo we'll get of him in the special.
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thexerox123 posted:Yes yes, we all know he's good at writing fiction. 
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Nov 23, 2013 08:21
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Renzian posted:This isn't Reddit. Could you quit acting like it is? Would be nice. We did get one in Adventures in Time and Space. Also they have already made it canon that he never aged.
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Nov 23, 2013 08:23
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bobkatt013 posted:We did get one in Adventures in Time and Space. Also they have already made it canon that he never aged. I like to think that was just a joke of some sort because it makes literally no sense 
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Nov 23, 2013 08:35
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Renzian posted:Oh, also! Totally forgot; remember ages ago when we saw a screenshot of Coal Hill Secondary School sign (where Ian and Barbara taught), and it said "CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNORS: I. CHESTERTON"? I think we might just get an Ian cameo! At least, I hope Pessimist (realist?) BoB tells me it's probably just a neat little visual reference in an establishing shot that won't lead to anything more substantial. Ideally, for me, we'd see both William Russell and Carole Ann Ford as Ian and Susan in this, even if it was just for a scene each that doesn't really matter to the overall plot. It'd be fanwanky, but there's no harm in getting a bit fanwanky in the celebration of fifty years of the show, especially when fanwanky means revisiting the two remaining member of the original core cast.
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Box of Bunnies posted:Pessimist (realist?) BoB tells me it's probably just a neat little visual reference in an establishing shot that won't lead to anything more substantial. Ideally, for me, we'd see both William Russell and Carole Ann Ford as Ian and Susan in this, even if it was just for a scene each that doesn't really matter to the overall plot. It'd be fanwanky, but there's no harm in getting a bit fanwanky in the celebration of fifty years of the show, especially when fanwanky means revisiting the two remaining member of the original core cast. I know it would never happen, but it would be amazing if the Doctor went back to Coal Hill because he was having some sort of a problem and calling upon one of his oldest companions to help him sort it out. Maybe even thanking Ian for helping him discover his "humanity." Certainly the way he goes back through the years to the Brig, Captain Jack, River, the Paternoster Gang, etc the first companions deserve the same treatment. If there was ever a time for that... I'm still amazed that we're about 2.5 hours out and still know nothing more. gently caress, if Moffat's finally found a way to stop spoilers this is gonna be a dull thread between now and Christmas!  Not that I mind though, personally I'd not want to know more than what I know. Like a few others ITT, I have my limits with spoilers. I'll go so far and then no more.
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Astroman posted:Moffat's finally found a way to stop spoilers this is gonna be a dull thread between now and Christmas! In the tradition of the original series, and to cut down on leaks, The Day of the Doctor was written two days ago and they are frantically finishing filming it.
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Nov 23, 2013 18:30
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I assume they went a little nuts after the Name of the Doctor mistake
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Nov 23, 2013 19:24
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MisterBibs posted:It's funny that you should bring up that, because that fake website (of which that picture is included) had something in it that has always stuck in my memory: An interview with a guy saying that he once saw a man matching that description, wearing fancy clothes, inconsolably ranting to nobody about how "he killed them all" and that they "were all gone". The implication, of course, is that this guy met 9 right after regenerating from 8. Sorry to gloss over the majority of your post, but the breaking out of the pictures thing.. I have a feeling it's going to be something to do with older versions of The Doctor being trapped in the paintings while Zygon copies of them take their places, with the news of Tom Baker being involved suggesting he perhaps breaks out, aged. Just a stab in the dark, however. I also apologise for starting off that de-rail about how Kennedy was an overrated piece of poo poo. I am just so sick of him being lauded. Each to their own, and all that.
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My money is the paintings are just quick cameos. "Oh look, it's my past selves in paintings, saying a line or a catchphrase! I must be in trouble!" Or all his past selves will be trapped in paintings except for 10 and the War Doctor.
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Nov 23, 2013 20:02
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Astroman posted:My money is the paintings are just quick cameos. "Oh look, it's my past selves in paintings, saying a line or a catchphrase! I must be in trouble!" So everything pre-War. Terrible cosmic angst.
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Nov 23, 2013 20:30
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Ladies. Gentlemen. It's time.
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Nov 23, 2013 20:49
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I can't believe they kept that end cameo under wraps.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:15
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Tom Baker said he was in it like a week ago.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:17
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Mokinokaro posted:I can't believe they kept that end cameo under wraps. They didn't. quote:"I am in the special," said Baker. "I'm not supposed to tell you that, but I tell you that very willingly and specifically; the BBC told me not to tell anybody but I'm telling you straightaway." It was posted in this thread, probably a few pages back.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:18
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Everyone thought it was Tom being Tom.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:18
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bobkatt013 posted:Everyone thought it was Tom being Tom. It struck me as somewhat odd, since Tom Baker's Doctor seemed to imply that Matt Smith's Doctor was in his past.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:23
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Well some of the 50th spoilers were correct.  To one about Davison being Omega.Biggest complaint was that Eccelston did indeed bail on the thing.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:23
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James R posted:It struck me as somewhat odd, since Tom Baker's Doctor seemed to imply that Matt Smith's Doctor was in his past. He told him it could be his past or it could be his future. He was Tom being Tom.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:25
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Teek posted:Well some of the 50th spoilers were correct. Hurt started regenerating and I thought, "OH MY LORD THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ECCLESTON FOR A SECOND!" But nope, he didn't even do a ten second appearance post-regeneration. Douchebag!
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Nov 23, 2013 22:25
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He didn't bail. he turned down the offer flat out, which he had every right to do, since he's not contractually obliged to do poo poo for Who anymore. sure it's a bummer, but at least he got a nod.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:28
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Matt Smith's line "I demand to be taken to the tower with my co-conspirators, sand shoes and granddad" was great. I think I might watch the whole thing again tonight. I am shocked by how good it was.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:He didn't bail. he turned down the offer flat out, which he had every right to do, since he's not contractually obliged to do poo poo for Who anymore. He always gets a nod! But yeah it's not like he told Moffat to get hosed. Unless literally everyone is lying (and they have every reason to, what with publicity and all, but still) he thought it over long and hard before eventually saying no. Still, would've been nice if they CG'd maybe a reverse of 9 -> 10. Ah well.
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Guys, that was amazing, but we're missing something important here. Clara's going to turn out to be River. I really don't want that to be true, but consider for a moment a few clues: 1. River in The Name of the Doctor asked how she could still be there if Clara was gone. Sure that seems to just mean that Clara isn't dead, but if that were the case, why did she say "spoilers" when the Doctor asked her how? He literally found Clara a minute later, so that's not what she didn't want to spoil. 2. Clara blew into the world "on a leaf" and so did River (her Demon's Run name leaf.) 3. Clara kissed the Doctor at the end and told her she always knows what he needs, the Doctor told River basically the same thing in Name. And the most obvious: 4. River's Vortex Manipulator came from a "Dead Time Agent"...and so did Clara's. We never saw her give it back, either. Moffat doesn't put things like that in by accident, it's too coincidental. I hope that none of this is true and it's just misdirection, because I actually like them both separately and don't want both ruined by Moffat Masterplanning. Then again, Moffat just proved he CAN plan perfectly, so who knows. But holy poo poo even if he fucks that up, I will always forgive him for legitimizing 8 and TOM loving BAKER!
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James R posted:Hurt started regenerating and I thought, "OH MY LORD THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ECCLESTON FOR A SECOND!" But nope, he didn't even do a ten second appearance post-regeneration. Douchebag! I'm surprised they didn't get McGann to film a little bit, since he was clearly willing. I'm guessing all the other Doctors recorded voiceovers for the big TARDIS get-together, at least.
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Stairs posted:
They said in this episode it came from Captain Jack. The one that River got was from a dead time agent. Also we have seen her parents and her as a baby. She can not be River. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 23, 2013 |
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Nov 23, 2013 22:43
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bobkatt013 posted:They said in this episode it came from Captain Jack. The one that River got was from a dead time agent. Dead, quote unquote.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:51
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bobkatt013 posted:They said in this episode it came from Captain Jack. The one that River got was from a dead time agent. Exactly. Also, remember when River regenerated in NYC and we never saw that life? How many lives did she have before she re-regenerated into Mels? We never saw Clara's mum pregnant, so what if her parents met, got married, fell in love, and adopted baby Clara? God I hate being able to rationalize this but for Moffat it makes so much sense.
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Stairs posted:Exactly. You saw Mels grow up with the Ponds. Do you really think Clara is going to regenerate into a little girl?
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Pops Mgee posted:You saw Mels grow up with the Ponds. Do you really think Clara is going to regenerate into a little girl? I can see it now. An adult not-yet Alex Kingston River climbs into a crib at a maternity hospital and regenerates into baby Clara.
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Nov 23, 2013 23:08
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Pops Mgee posted:You saw Mels grow up with the Ponds. Do you really think Clara is going to regenerate into a little girl? Also didn't river say the last time I did this was in a New York alleyway
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Was Bad Wolf Rose supposed to be just an image or was she actually some kind of incarnation of super time vortex powered Rose from way back in 2005 influencing the past to save the Doctor from having to destroy Gallifrey? Cause that is kinda neat if they connected it all the way back to the start like that.
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Mavric posted:Was Bad Wolf Rose supposed to be just an image or was she actually some kind of incarnation of super time vortex powered Rose from way back in 2005 influencing the past to save the Doctor from having to destroy Gallifrey? Cause that is kinda neat if they connected it all the way back to the start like that. She said that she is from the past or maybe future. She gets confused.
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Nov 23, 2013 23:15
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Interesting photo from the official Doctor Who twitter: https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/404370080856678400/photo/1
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Saeka posted:Interesting photo from the official Doctor Who twitter: https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/404370080856678400/photo/1 Could that just be an old picture from Timecrash?
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Nov 23, 2013 23:17
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bobkatt013 posted:Could that just be an old picture from Timecrash? Its the Five Doctors reboot called Five-ish Doctors. directed by Davison for the Red Button service.
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Nov 23, 2013 23:19
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Yeah, apparently it's just a comedy thing.
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Mavric posted:Was Bad Wolf Rose supposed to be just an image or was she actually some kind of incarnation of super time vortex powered Rose from way back in 2005 influencing the past to save the Doctor from having to destroy Gallifrey? Cause that is kinda neat if they connected it all the way back to the start like that. It was the AI projection of The Moment. The line referring to whether she isn't sure if she is an image of the Doctor's past or the future is referencing that the AI can read the minds of everyone and has chosen Rose's image as one of the most important from the Doctor's life (regardless if whether it had already happened or not).
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Classtoise posted:Still, would've been nice if they CG'd maybe a reverse of 9 -> 10. Ah well. I'm sure this should go in the main thread but... they did, didn't they? I'm certain I saw Ecclestone's CG'd face start to appear (the hair and eyes and ears at least) then the camera cut away.
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