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BERGfu posted:Well that's just too bad quote:Update November 28th: ZombyDog fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Leal posted:Is this something that can happen in a completely untouched game? In TC I'm playing it without mods (I need my achievements A mammoth is fine. You'll know when stars are right and .cats are wrong. 
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Nov 28, 2013 21:48
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) and there is this random mammoth flying around Senators Badlands. The Yaki leave it well enough alone, I can't really do anything with the ship either.
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That stuff about testers playing the game with time dilation is loving bullshit. Why wouldn't they have tested the game how people were actually going to play it? Almost everyone had this problem. Also haven't they said some kind of SETA isn't possible?
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Nov 28, 2013 21:59
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BastardySkull posted:That stuff about testers playing the game with time dilation is loving bullshit. Why wouldn't they have tested the game how people were actually going to play it? Almost everyone had this problem. Also haven't they said some kind of SETA isn't possible? Companies always try to save money in QA. It always back fires. This doesn't just apply to game companies.
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Nov 28, 2013 22:17
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BastardySkull posted:That stuff about testers playing the game with time dilation is loving bullshit. Why wouldn't they have tested the game how people were actually going to play it? Almost everyone had this problem. Also haven't they said some kind of SETA isn't possible? Actually they show a video with time acceleration as part of their dev diaries, it isn't that it's impossible, it's that they don't want to put it in the game.
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Nov 28, 2013 22:25
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So I have had X3 and TC in my steam library for some time but never really played them past like 30 minutes, and since its the autumn steam sale AP is on sale for 5 bucks. Should I just pick up AP and never look back or start with the ones I already have? Not really looking for a good story, just the best first time experience for a total X series noob.
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Nov 28, 2013 23:44
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Hamsalad posted:So I have had X3 and TC in my steam library for some time but never really played them past like 30 minutes, and since its the autumn steam sale AP is on sale for 5 bucks. Should I just pick up AP and never look back or start with the ones I already have? Not really looking for a good story, just the best first time experience for a total X series noob. Buy AP and never look back.
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Nov 28, 2013 23:51
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DevNull posted:Companies always try to save money in QA. It always back fires. This doesn't just apply to game companies. Yeah and it is called open beta. If Egosoft didn't try so hard to be so tightassed about the game, they could have let the community QA it for them. Clearly they knew it was poo poo from the beginning.
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Nov 29, 2013 00:27
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I'm having trouble with the ADS mod, running on AP+XRM; it just won't work and I feel like I've tried everything. As soon as I hit the hotkey for 'attack my target', I hear multiple "mosquito missile removed", the ships then fly out of the TM and... do nothing. For whatever reason, they always default to 'retreat' instead of doing what I told them to do. No idea what's going on with the mosquito thing; I did put the missile defense on those ships, but I can't see how that's related to anything. Is CODEA less of a pain to use? Because at this point I'm close to simply giving up on wings, like I did back in Terran Conflict.
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Nov 29, 2013 04:57
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seravid posted:Is CODEA less of a pain to use? Haha NO Codea does work, I have gotten it to work in at least two different games, but it is an order of magnitude more complicated than ADS at least. I'd have to guess it is a conflict with XRM since it makes huge changes to the game. ADS isn't mentioned specifically as a compatible mod and CODEA has a compatibility patch.
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Nov 29, 2013 06:01
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That's a shame. Taking over the universe alone with a fuckoff M6/M7 is fun but having dozens of minions at my command was the main reason I re-installed the game this time.
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Nov 29, 2013 23:55
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So is there a seperate thread for X Rebirth or are we using this one?
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Nov 30, 2013 14:28
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We're still using this one it's just that the thread title is still appropriate, on the Rebirth front there's a beta patch available to fix the major trade bug.
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Nov 30, 2013 14:40
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So apparently the ability to clear a ship's trade queue added in the last patch doesn't actually stop a trip from being stuck forever if they've already arrived at a location without cargolifter URVs. I'm not sure how they managed to make trading MORE cumbersome than in TC/AP, but they did.
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Dec 1, 2013 06:39
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The Cheshire Cat posted:So apparently the ability to clear a ship's trade queue added in the last patch doesn't actually stop a trip from being stuck forever if they've already arrived at a location without cargolifter URVs. I'm not sure how they managed to make trading MORE cumbersome than in TC/AP, but they did. Even better, clearing the job doesn't refund the money, but we're currently waiting on the 1.18 patch to unfuck the economy, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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Dec 1, 2013 08:46
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I preordered this game in my excitement, played for a few hours, then got to the mission where you have to deliver food to the outpost near that star. After spending a couple hours watching my trader helplessly bash itself against the station trying to get to the dock, I quit in frustration. Fast forward to today, I fire it back up and load my save immediately after escaping albion the second time. I go to retry the mission thinking that one of the 17 patches released since launch would have fixed my issue. After another hour of babysitting the trader, it gets near the station and I start thinking that I'll finally be able to Revolutionary ship-control AI... 
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Dec 1, 2013 09:49
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Royal W posted:Revolutionary ship-control AI... While trade has been broken, I've been flying around and doing the combat missions. I've watched a lot of fighter squadrons and raiding parties bouncing around the edges of stations until they either slip inside the geometry or they bounce far enough out that I can shoot them without accidentally twatting the station. So no, not much sign of AI. That they can bounce off stations without causing damage or the station to open fire is a worrying sign that they aren't fixing this. Another worrying sign is that I've been causing pilots to eject from their fighters and the 'claim' option is greyed out. Not-implemented, or do I need an upgrade?
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Dec 1, 2013 19:30
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Hav posted:Another worrying sign is that I've been causing pilots to eject from their fighters and the 'claim' option is greyed out. Not-implemented, or do I need an upgrade? You need a hired pilot in passengers to claim them, it is implemented, but there's hardly any point. You can't repair small ships and they're worth nothing if you want to sell them.
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Dec 1, 2013 19:40
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Royal W posted:I preordered this game in my excitement, played for a few hours, then got to the mission where you have to deliver food to the outpost near that star. After spending a couple hours watching my trader helplessly bash itself against the station trying to get to the dock, I quit in frustration. Fast forward to today, I fire it back up and load my save immediately after escaping albion the second time. I go to retry the mission thinking that one of the 17 patches released since launch would have fixed my issue. After another hour of babysitting the trader, it gets near the station and I start thinking that I'll finally be able to This is weird, cap ships don't have collision with stations or other cap ships, they should phase through. Did it actually bonk against the station, or did it line up with a docking port, move in and then immediately leave again? EDIT: Are you using the Gigurum? You could try doing it OOS but you may be poo poo out of luck here, non-capital ships are hopelessly broken currently. You should get a Rahanas in Darned Hot Air (along the 42 Ways highway from Gushing Springs) Domattee fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Dec 1, 2013 |
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Dec 1, 2013 21:16
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Domattee posted:This is weird, cap ships don't have collision with stations or other cap ships, they should phase through. Did it actually bonk against the station, or did it line up with a docking port, move in and then immediately leave again? I'm using the Gigurum. I'm at the point with this game where I'm fine just sitting on it until they un-gently caress it more, as opposed to finding ways to work around their problems.
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Dec 1, 2013 21:52
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Pyromancer posted:You need a hired pilot in passengers to claim them, it is implemented, but there's hardly any point. You can't repair small ships and they're worth nothing if you want to sell them. Is that what pilots are for? They're one of the many NPCs you can hire, but what most of them actually do is not explained anywhere that I could find.
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Dec 1, 2013 22:41
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Domattee posted:This is weird, cap ships don't have collision with stations or other cap ships, they should phase through. Did it actually bonk against the station, or did it line up with a docking port, move in and then immediately leave again? Scaldis [sic] is better than a Rahanas, because it isn't typed for cargo, and you'll be knee-deep in Rahanas once you start the Dandy Highwayman activity in Plutarch Space. Or you would be if the economy being dead wasn't resulting in a bunch of stacked up freighters waiting to load/unload forever. Nathan Tanaka does those in DHA; far right shipyard as you come off the highway. Pyromancer posted:You need a hired pilot in passengers to claim them, it is implemented, but there's hardly any point. You can't repair small ships and they're worth nothing if you want to sell them. That feels sub-optimal, but explains pilots. Is the crew pool infinite? I've been moving around a lot exploring, but haven't noticed refills for the people I hire.
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Dec 2, 2013 00:37
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I just sell Rahanas I don't need, and the Scaldis has less container storage than the appropriate Rahanas and container is almost everything that isn't mining or energy cells. Hirable crew are randomized and respawn, Shipdealers are persistent within a game but have randomized names across games
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Dec 2, 2013 01:24
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Speaking about CODEA, I installed these mods and scripts the other day  (If the TIMG is too small)using the Plugin Manager. I tested it out by starting a Custom Game > X-Universe. In-game, I received a message stating that I needed CODEA Weapons System Libraries 3.8.03 but the only version I can see that is current would be for 3.3.11. Any assistance would be helpful because this is my first time playing X3 and I'm way out of my depth here.
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Dec 2, 2013 01:25
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AmyL posted:Speaking about CODEA, I installed these mods and scripts the other day Here is 3.8.04 from Lucike's website. http://www.xuniversum.info/download/x3_tc/scripts/Befehlsbibliothek_X3TC_V3804.zip
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Running a modded version of AP (without xrm). After setting up in savage spur, i started deploying adv sats and turned on the SEWN. Awesome right? Sorta. Ships are dumber than dirt and autopilot themselves into things. In sector I ordered a 5 corvette, 2 frigate wing against a pirate base. I took two corvette losses from them literally running into the base and exploding. There are no words.
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Dec 2, 2013 06:39
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Running a modded version of AP (without xrm). After setting up in savage spur, i started deploying adv sats and turned on the SEWN. Awesome right? Sorta. Ships are dumber than dirt and autopilot themselves into things. In sector I ordered a 5 corvette, 2 frigate wing against a pirate base. I took two corvette losses from them literally running into the base and exploding. Get bounce.
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Dec 2, 2013 06:44
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Running a modded version of AP (without xrm). After setting up in savage spur, i started deploying adv sats and turned on the SEWN. Awesome right? Sorta. Ships are dumber than dirt and autopilot themselves into things. In sector I ordered a 5 corvette, 2 frigate wing against a pirate base. I took two corvette losses from them literally running into the base and exploding. Wait till you do this one final fury mission You have to destroy a kha'ak station and this entire NPC fleet shows up to do it. It comes with a lot of fighters, possibly over 20 and at least 8 bombers. The mission ended with me putting something heavy on the fire button and turning on my ps3 cause all the ships rammed themselves into the kha'ak station till they died and the corvette that is also a part of the NPC fleet was doing god knows what elsewhere in the sector. Lots of free missiles I guess Really it just amazes me that the AI for "attack this stationary object" is "engage it like its a moving object" so they are constantly flying around and often into whatever they're trying to destroy.
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Dec 2, 2013 07:19
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Leal posted:Really it just amazes me that the AI for "attack this stationary object" is "engage it like its a moving object" so they are constantly flying around and often into whatever they're trying to destroy. I think they kept that in for Rebirth, so it's not all bad news. wait...
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Dec 2, 2013 07:22
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Vatek posted:Get bounce. Bounce relies on the author creating So yeah, I don't think Bounce fixes this at all unfortunately. In ship to ship combat I'm sure it's a big help. Edit: I checked again, edited for accuracy and found that yup, no stations in the list. It does include orbital defense platforms and some Yaki mobile pirate bases, but not your run of the mill station. Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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Dec 2, 2013 08:10
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Bounce has a script that will generate collision meshes for non-vanilla objects.
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Dec 2, 2013 08:12
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:Bounce has a script that will generate collision meshes for non-vanilla objects. Hmmm, that sounds pretty cool actually, I'm going to dig a bit deeper.
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Dec 2, 2013 08:17
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Here is 3.8.04 from Lucike's website. I already have Befehlsbibliothekbut installed when I try to run CODEA Weapons System Libraries, it tells me that I need 3.8.04 for CODEA Weapons System Libraries.
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Leal posted:Really it just amazes me that the AI for "attack this stationary object" is "engage it like its a moving object" so they are constantly flying around and often into whatever they're trying to destroy. In X2 the AI was "kill yourself by flying straight into enemy ship", and that was when they were still so twitchy they could turn and change direction on a dime. That game had the worst combat in the entire series and something like 90% of fights would end with the AI ramming you and exploding.
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Dec 2, 2013 09:18
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AmyL posted:I already have Befehlsbibliothekbut installed when I try to run CODEA Weapons System Libraries, it tells me that I need 3.8.04 for CODEA Weapons System Libraries. I really don't know then, thats the only thing listed as a required command library on Lucike's site. I don't remember any special library needed for CODEA specifically, but I don't speak German so I really can't tell from his website.
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Dec 2, 2013 09:32
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Ice Fist posted:Bounce relies on the author creating Bounce should work. I'm surprised you aren't using it since like MARS it's pretty much mandatory.
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Dec 2, 2013 09:37
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Is there any way to get borderless windows in X:R?
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Dec 2, 2013 09:42
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I really don't know then, thats the only thing listed as a required command library on Lucike's site. I don't remember any special library needed for CODEA specifically, but I don't speak German so I really can't tell from his website. It needs military transport too.
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Dec 2, 2013 14:07
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My special fancypants collector's edition showed up over the weekend. They included a French manual. On the bright side, the flashlight is probably brighter than the frigging sun. Also, Germany or wherever uses weird looking stamps.
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lightpole posted:Bounce should work. I'm surprised you aren't using it since like MARS it's pretty much mandatory. I am using it. I just have yet to see any indication that it works on stations based on my own confirmation bias with M5s crashing into stations I'm defending and the little bit of digging I did into the mod's script files. Based on a previous post I might be wrong though and I'm digging through the script to see what the deal is.
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