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Lots of people here say the base game is pretty easy (I die a lot but whatever) but I haven't seen anyone say hero mode is easy.
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Awesome! posted:Lots of people here say the base game is pretty easy (I die a lot but whatever) but I haven't seen anyone say hero mode is easy. I would argue that hero mode isn't actually that much harder than the base game, because it's easy to just not get hit at all. Any regular enemy can be stunlocked if you mash the sword button, and most of the bosses move extremely slowly and have very easily read and avoided attacks. Most boss fights also have a wall you can merge with to become temporarily invincible, or a hole you can drop down in a pinch (only does half a heart of damage on both difficulties, generally the better alternative to getting hit). Aside from combat, I only had trouble with one puzzle (the one everyone has trouble with), but I've played every Zelda multiple times, so I might just know how their designers think. That said, it's still an incredible game despite the low difficulty, and a must-have for anyone with a 3DS. It's probably the best game I played all year.
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Dec 26, 2013 18:33
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qnqnx posted:I'm getting mixed reviews about Link Between Worlds, some say that it's a must have, others say that it got too easy. Can I have a definitive answer? I personally loved it, but then again I'm a huge sucker for anything LTTP related. It's a refreshing throwback to the 2D top down Zelda games. It is a tad bit on the easy side but Zelda games have always been like that. There's alot of freedom in this game, which is a very freshing change from the handholding/railroading past Zelda games have been. In a way, it's alot like the NES Zelda: Here's a sword, go find the dungeons and get the McGruffins! This game also has the best gimmick I've seen in a Zelda game: The ability to into a painting and merge into the walls, and it's an ability that is used very well, and adds a layer of complexity to puzzles in the game. I wasn't too keen on renting items, it didn't feel right having all the series staples available at the start, but I got over that pretty quickly since it was refreshing to have everything I need so I can just go explore and not worry about having to come back somewhere because I didn't beat dungeon X so I have item Y. All of the items are fun to use and there is an upgrade system that makes them even more awesome. The music also kicks alot of rear end, the remixed overworld themes are amazing. This game and Pokemon were the excuses for me to get the 3DSXL Zelda bundle.
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Dec 26, 2013 18:39
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Guess I'm getting Link between Worlds, then. Thanks everyone.Starhawk64 posted:I wasn't too keen on renting items, it didn't feel right having all the series staples available at the start, but I got over that pretty quickly since it was refreshing to have everything I need so I can just go explore and not worry about having to come back somewhere because I didn't beat dungeon X so I have item Y. All of the items are fun to use and there is an upgrade system that makes them even more awesome.
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Dec 26, 2013 18:48
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qnqnx posted:I'm getting mixed reviews about Link Between Worlds, some say that it's a must have, others say that it got too easy. Can I have a definitive answer? I guess I'll be the voice of dissent. While the game is good and you should at least try it out, I felt that it spent way too long trying to be Link to the Past instead of actually forging its own identity. While the dungeons are all completely new, almost everything else feels like they ripped it right out of Link to the Past and called it a day. The major additions are the painting gimmick (which is masterfully done) and the renting system (which is really cool at first until you realize that despite giving you all of the items from the start of the game, they do absolutely nothing with it). Being able to go to any dungeon at any time is another thing that sounds a lot more interesting than it actually is - for the most part, the dungeon design is the same as usual and they just make you have the dungeon item before you're allowed to enter the temple in the first place. And because any dungeon can be your first, there are absolutely no multi-item puzzles. If you're in the bomb dungeon, every single puzzle is either standalone, or it uses the bombs. Don't get me wrong, the game is pretty good. But don't go in expecting a mind-blowing experience, especially if you've played LttP recently.
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Dec 26, 2013 18:59
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dang nintendo, I was gonna buy a bunch of games on the eshop but now I've lost the christmas spirit. way to ruin christmas nintendo for real though why haven't they fixed this yet, I demand answers
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Dec 26, 2013 19:03
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romanowski posted:dang nintendo, I was gonna buy a bunch of games on the eshop but now I've lost the christmas spirit. way to ruin christmas nintendo Didn't Steam also go down in the past day or so? It is sometimes just what happens. A bunch of people getting new consoles or games all going along within 24 hours.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:09
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yeah I know things go down but it's been well over 24 hours now. like come on, that's totally unreasonable.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:10
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Artix posted:And because any dungeon can be your first, there are absolutely no multi-item puzzles. If you're in the bomb dungeon, every single puzzle is either standalone, or it uses the bombs. I think this is my biggest gripe with ALBW. Why did they even bother giving you access to (nearly) all items from the start if they're not incorporating that into the dungeon design? There is still very clearly one "dungeon item" per dungeon, and all the multi-item puzzles (or rather, two-item puzzles since I can't think of a single three or more item one) are in random one-off caves somewhere that don't even give you any good reward. I mean, don't get me wrong either, it's a very good game despite that and definitely the best Zelda game since at least Wind Waker, but they could have done so much more with the item renting thing.
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I'm kind of thinking that ALBW is sort of a test run for these ideas and they'll be more ambitious with them in Zelda U. they did say at some point that ideas from ALBW would be implemented in Zelda U so they'll most likely go even further with them. well I hope, anyway
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Dec 26, 2013 19:19
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I have never played A Link to the Past (despite having a Zelda tat), but I thought LBW was amazing. Between it and the new Phoenix Wright, I've learned to love the 3DS all over again.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:33
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I received Luigi's Mansion for Christmas, I can't believe how much charm this game oozes! Luigi is so scared but he's still reluctantly willing to help 
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Dec 26, 2013 19:38
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Karthe posted:I received Luigi's Mansion for Christmas, I can't believe how much charm this game oozes! Luigi is so scared but he's still reluctantly willing to help The animations in that game are really something else. There's like a million different faces Luigi has when he's scared shitless.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:47
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Geirskogul posted:I have never played A Link to the Past (despite having a Zelda tat), but I thought LBW was amazing. Between it and the new Phoenix Wright, I've learned to love the 3DS all over again. I haven't played Phoenix Wright since, like, the first one and I was in high school then. Is it worth just picking up the new one? I'm also thinking about picking up Streets of Rage 3D, is it a decent port? Is there internet co-op? (Of course none of this matters until the eShop comes back online..)
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Dec 26, 2013 19:48
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explosivo posted:I haven't played Phoenix Wright since, like, the first one and I was in high school then. Is it worth just picking up the new one? No, play all of them in order. Its worth it.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:52
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Finished ALBW today and it was incredible. Started on ET IV, and so far my biggest obstacle is coming up with original names for everything because I am not a clever person. I only say this now because the game hasn't forced me to bend over yet.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:04
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explosivo posted:I haven't played Phoenix Wright since, like, the first one and I was in high school then. Is it worth just picking up the new one? I played the new one without having played any of the previous games and it's easily my favourite game this year.
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The hard part for me in EO:U is deciding who to put in my party.
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I actually got on last night, however it took forever to load/login into the Eshop. It is still pretty unstable and I don't want to risk anything with system transfer for now.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:17
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romanowski posted:I'm kind of thinking that ALBW is sort of a test run for these ideas and they'll be more ambitious with them in Zelda U. they did say at some point that ideas from ALBW would be implemented in Zelda U so they'll most likely go even further with them. well I hope, anyway I like ALBW but when Nintendo says stuff like that I think they always mean it more in the sense that ALBW will influence the next Zelda games the way "NEW Super Mario Bros!" influenced the next decade of Mario games.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:30
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romanowski posted:dang nintendo, I was gonna buy a bunch of games on the eshop but now I've lost the christmas spirit. way to ruin christmas nintendo What happened was that they released Pokebank in Japan. Their servers were already under heavy load from people registering new accounts on gift systems/buying presents on the eShop when suddenly there was an influx of potentially several million Pokemon players all trying to get to the shop at the same time. Nintendo has responded by pulling Pokebank from the eShop and delaying its release until further notice, so their servers should stabilize once word spreads and people trying to rush the eShop all at once.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:32
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notthegoatseguy posted:Didn't Steam also go down in the past day or so? It is sometimes just what happens. A bunch of people getting new consoles or games all going along within 24 hours. And if you're trying to convince people as a whole that downloadable/cloud media is the primrose path, yesterday was #1 worst out of 365 days of the year to let people down. How many of us couldn't play our NES or Genesis or PS on Christmas day when we got one as kids? That ruins the whole day, and now as adults we're off to work the next day with a dud for a Christmas gift. Myself and millions more will never trust a product like this as a Christmas gift again. Nintendo probably did more damage to themselves selling the bundles with download-only games than they saved by not just including the loving physical media.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:39
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explosivo posted:I'm also thinking about picking up Streets of Rage 3D, is it a decent port? Is there internet co-op? Port is spot on and it looks really nice in 3D but there's only local co-op as far as I'm aware.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:49
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Trying to figure out how to handle the Nintendo ID stuff. My wife and I both have a 3DS, she has a few digital games on hers and I have a few digital games on mine. We haven't gone through the ID setup process on either machine. We also got a Wii U that hasn't been unboxed yet. Should we use the same ID on all three machines? Will this allow us to play games bought on the eShop on both 3DSs without paying twice? If we do use the same ID on both 3DSs will this make us show up as the same person on others' friend lists?
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Dec 26, 2013 20:58
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explosivo posted:I haven't played Phoenix Wright since, like, the first one and I was in high school then. Is it worth just picking up the new one? You can enjoy Dual Destinies without having played the other ones, yeah. The logic is more intuitive than the previous games, and overall I thought it was by far the best in the series.
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Sakurazuka posted:Port is spot on and it looks really nice in 3D but there's only local co-op as far as I'm aware. Is the local co op download play?
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Mattavist posted:Trying to figure out how to handle the Nintendo ID stuff. My wife and I both have a 3DS, she has a few digital games on hers and I have a few digital games on mine. We haven't gone through the ID setup process on either machine. We also got a Wii U that hasn't been unboxed yet. A Nintendo ID can only be assigned to one 3DS and one Wii U.
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poonchasta posted:Is the local co op download play? No both people need copies of the game (which was really disappointing to me but oh well)
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:This game will be discounted in about ~12 hours, too, but who knows if you'll actually be able to access the eShop by then. Is this true? I'm contemplating between Steamworld Dig, the Mighty Switch Force games, or Mutant Mudds and I can't decide.
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Fryhtaning posted:And if you're trying to convince people as a whole that downloadable/cloud media is the primrose path, yesterday was #1 worst out of 365 days of the year to let people down. How many of us couldn't play our NES or Genesis or PS on Christmas day when we got one as kids? That ruins the whole day, and now as adults we're off to work the next day with a dud for a Christmas gift. ...really?
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Fryhtaning posted:And if you're trying to convince people as a whole that downloadable/cloud media is the primrose path, yesterday was #1 worst out of 365 days of the year to let people down. How many of us couldn't play our NES or Genesis or PS on Christmas day when we got one as kids? That ruins the whole day, and now as adults we're off to work the next day with a dud for a Christmas gift. It sucks that the store is down but I am guessing most people probably just think "Oh I guess the servers are busy because it's Christmas" instead of swearing off downloadable media forever
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I couldn't play my NES or Genesis or whatever as a kid because my parents always loaded us into the car and made us go to Grandma's house. PSN and Nintendo Network being down made it feel like I'm a kid again!
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When I got my PS1, my parents didn't know the box didn't come with an RF adapter and we didn't own a TV with RCA input at the time. We rode around the next day fighting crowds but didn't find one until the next week. My copy of Gran Turismo just sat there so sad. I remember being pretty annoyed by it, but not nearly as much as my step-dad. He threatened to buy a new TV the day after Christmas so I could play it, but I told him it was OK. It was hard to be super upset by it when I saw them working so hard to make it better. Huxley fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Help Im Alive posted:It sucks that the store is down but I am guessing most people probably just think "Oh I guess the servers are busy because it's Christmas" instead of swearing off downloadable media forever I'm a big supporter of Steam and downloadable media as a whole. But if there's one day to NOT gently caress up if that is your business model, it's the day a large percentage of people are relying on that experience to be enjoyable and having the stage set for future dates. Why would anyone give someone a Christmas gift that relies on reliable servers after yesterday? It's just going to leave a bitter taste in a lot of people's mouths. And it's not just "busy"; it has been dead in the water for 36 hours with no end in sight. Huxley posted:. Yeah, my wife has been affected more than me since it was her Big Gift to me this year. Fryhtaning fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Dec 26, 2013 21:59
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I wonder how much of this online problem is related to the Nintendo ID thing they implemented recently? I'm guessing that required a lot of back-end changes to merge accounts and ownership of content.
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Dec 26, 2013 22:01
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Yeah my experience with the NNID system so far has been nothing but a pain in the rear end.
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Well, both Steam and Nintendo just made stupid decisions that DDOSed their own servers. They could have done their l4d2 and pokebank launches a week away from Xmas in either direction. The good thing is it's unlikely they will do something this stupid again. There are some pissed off Ops managers post morteming the poo poo out of this the first day back in the office. Not sure what took down PSN. fozzy fosbourne fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Holy crap, you guys, just buy cartridges if you're going to have that much blood pressure over it.
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Bean posted:Holy crap, you guys, just buy cartridges if you're going to have that much blood pressure over it. Loads of people got the Zelda XL bundle for Christmas, and you have to access the eshop to get it. And for others, like the one who wanted to download Phoenix Wright, well, it's only available through the eshop.
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