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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Watching the story arc of Kev and Veronica trying to have a baby was pretty amazing. It just kept getting stranger and stranger.

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I loving love this show, but I will be watching True Detective instead because I don't get Showtime at school. I catch up the next day using Xfinity on my computer.

It is flawed and suffers from typical Showtime excess for the sake of excess, but I can't help but love all of these characters. Especially Lip, even though he's become a big baby.

MailboxFullOfBombs
Nov 1, 2010

Aces High posted:

gently caress yes this is a great Christmas present, thank you DivisionPost because I don't know if the spirit of this show could be communicated any better :allears: I am so psyched for the 12 because dammit I want to know what happened to Jimmy/Steve (even though he is probably 90% dead)

Really? I didn't think anybody cared about Jimmy. He was such a boring character, I was glad that he just disappeared offscreen.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




MailboxFullOfBombs posted:

Really? I didn't think anybody cared about Jimmy. He was such a boring character, I was glad that he just disappeared offscreen.

I liked his fall from grace last season and most of the issues I had was that he and Fiona never actually talked about any issues either was having with day-to-day stuff. How he decided to handle things were not mature, like him immediately going to Estefania whenever he and Fiona would have a spat but that's why this show is still fun to watch, people do stupid, irrational things and it still feels like something a real person would do.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

MailboxFullOfBombs posted:

Really? I didn't think anybody cared about Jimmy. He was such a boring character, I was glad that he just disappeared offscreen.

I wouldn't say he was boring, I wouldn't even say he was an underdeveloped character, but I think since the show never really covered his motivations well so he was underutilized to the point where he just did things and we were supposed to accept that "Oh, okay. I guess he did that thing right there."

I liked him, and liked how he generally made Fiona a happier person. he also helped her develop herself; while he didn't exactly push her, he was around enough to give her some time to do things for herself, finally, and get some professional confidence. Which was nice. :smith:

He was pretty immature sometimes, too, though. But overall he was a pretty fun guy, and it'd be cool to bring him back, aside from all the technical difficulties in the story between how it's probably impossible for his drug lord father-in-law to do anything except kill him and the whole Fiona stuff. But Fiona'll take anybody back, she's sassy and smart and strong, but damaged goods are damaged goods.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!
Finally just caught up on Shameless, which involved binge watching half of Season 1, then Season 2 and Season 3 in just a few days. :suicide:

I would offer that I really liked Steve-Jimmy in both Seasons 1 and Two, but once he had his fall from grace, he became a pretty one dimensional character.

Drifter posted:

But Fiona'll take anybody back, she's sassy and smart and strong, but damaged goods are damaged goods.

Just look at how many times has she taken Frank or Monica back. :cheers:

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Everytime I get so frustrated when she does stupid poo poo like that, but then I get impressed with the tv because it's so realistic.


:smithicide:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
They film scenes from this at my work.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Do you work in an office, or a bar?

I think I covered everywhere the show goes.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
Just a heads up, Season 4 episode 1 was available on Xfinity On-Demand as of last night. You can also watch it free on YouTube.

LazyDivey
Jun 18, 2004

Orange crush momma is a laugh laugh laugh.


Yeah the censored first episode is on youtube today! So glad this show is back so I can have my Ian/Mickey gay drama. Also missed that bastard Frank.

Best tv show that definitely needs more viewers.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.
I think the V/Kev storyline was copied from The Bold and the Beautiful, in which Brooke and her daughter Bridget were also knocked up by the same guy at one point.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Joramun posted:

I think the V/Kev storyline was copied from The Bold and the Beautiful, in which Brooke and her daughter Bridget were also knocked up by the same guy at one point.

Well, however the plot, the narrative of Kev and Vi's one was fantastic.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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LazyDivey posted:

Yeah the censored first episode is on youtube today! So glad this show is back so I can have my Ian/Mickey gay drama. Also missed that bastard Frank.

Best tv show that definitely needs more viewers.

sup gay drama buddy :smith::hf::smith: Ian's arc got really loving depressing last season, I just want that kid to be happy. Here's hoping he'll meet a cute army boy to get his mind off Mickey.

I think I'm gonna wait and watch the preview when it airs. "Censored Shameless" just sounds wrong to me. I want to bask in the glorious depravity.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Yeah, this is difficult. On the one hand it's been so long since the last episode aired that I'm desperate to see what's going on in their world. At the same time though, censored Shameless just ain't right.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

sup gay drama buddy :smith::hf::smith: Ian's arc got really loving depressing last season, I just want that kid to be happy. Here's hoping he'll meet a cute army boy to get his mind off Mickey.

I think I'm gonna wait and watch the preview when it airs. "Censored Shameless" just sounds wrong to me. I want to bask in the glorious depravity.

It's just not the same show without gratuitous titties, violence, and profanity. It's part of the show's charm. I did catch a small preview while watching the marathon, and holy poo poo: (PREVIEW SPOILERS :siren: ) Lip is actually going to college!? That made me really happy, then I realized, it probably won't last :smith:

Also, this show is very re-watchable. I just caught a few episodes here and there during the marathon, and it was like watching it for the first time again.

Max Hammer
Jan 3, 2008

ANTIFREEZE!!!
I love this show so loving much and can't wait for Season 4 to get going. I also live in CHicago, so I guess it hits a little closer to home for me as well. Oh, and..

GOT VIRUS FROM MP3 posted:

I think my favourite moment in this show was the agoraphobic woman finally running outside to save Liam.

...this scene right here. I love it as well, but while I was watching it I realized that the guy they close up on in this scene (looks like a gangbanger or just a criminal) is actually a friend of mine. I didn't even know he was on the show. gently caress! I had to pause and rewind a couple times just to verify it. But I guess he has a pretty distinct 'look' to him.

Anyways, yes, watch this show. After that amazingly well written OP and all the thumbs up following it, you have no excuse!

LazyDivey
Jun 18, 2004

Orange crush momma is a laugh laugh laugh.


I miss this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCWcrhZS16E (mildly nws)

I hope he's coming back but not brain damaged whatsherface.

He found a cure for comas afterall!

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
I think he may be a little busy plundering and pillaging on the high seas.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick
:siren: The uncensored preview is now available through Showtime On Demand! :siren:

S4E1 light spoilers: It's mostly a set-up episode, picking up where they left off. Also, I'm pretty sure that Carl was wearing a "gently caress Jay Cutler" shirt at one point, so that was very amusing. I'll reserve any further judgment until after the episode airs.

Maia
Aug 15, 2003

Sweet.

Captain Foxy posted:

Hell yeah, gently caress youuuu Fraaaannnnkkk

This is the best post about Shameless.

I love this show. I think it gets better every season. I remember in the beginning thinking that Debbie was a really weak actress (even for a little kid) and then (early season 3) the moment when Frank falls on her school project and says it was a piece of poo poo anyway, then she gets truly angry with him for the first time and attacks him with like a pillow filled with soap or something... it's such a perfect microcosm for Shameless. It's really funny but it legit made me cry because it's sort of the moment Debbie not only accepts that her father is a huge piece of poo poo but the moment she stops forgiving him for it. Ugh. It makes me want to cry just thinking about it. And laugh. So good.

I rambled a little bit there. But I just got excited because this show is so good.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Maia posted:

This is the best post about Shameless.

I love this show. I think it gets better every season. I remember in the beginning thinking that Debbie was a really weak actress (even for a little kid) and then (early season 3) the moment when Frank falls on her school project and says it was a piece of poo poo anyway, then she gets truly angry with him for the first time and attacks him with like a pillow filled with soap or something... it's such a perfect microcosm for Shameless. It's really funny but it legit made me cry because it's sort of the moment Debbie not only accepts that her father is a huge piece of poo poo but the moment she stops forgiving him for it. Ugh. It makes me want to cry just thinking about it. And laugh. So good.

I rambled a little bit there. But I just got excited because this show is so good.

Yeah, that is literally one of the best moments in the show.

I've started watching the UK version and I'm liking it a lot. I have to watch with the captions on because I can't understand their accents sometimes.

Brennan
Jan 18, 2005

Of course Carl has a gently caress Jay Cutler t-shirt

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Fiona is happy. This can only end badly.

Brennan
Jan 18, 2005

Fiona is giving out money and buying real OJ. Just waiting for the other shoe to drop now.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
This episode is setting up a lot, can't wait to watch it come crashing down again!

Edit: Every time I think Frank has hit a new low, he finds a way to get his 12 year old son to give him a box wine enema.

Grassy Knowles fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 13, 2014

Brennan
Jan 18, 2005

Lip having to come to terms with not being the smartest guy in the group anymore is setting up to be really interesting.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Brennan posted:

Lip having to come to terms with not being the smartest guy in the group anymore is setting up to be really interesting.

I don't know if that's necessarily the way they are going--he isn't the big fish in a small pond anymore, but they seem to be showing that he has to put in a full effort, which he isn't really used to. He can't spend all his free time worrying about other things, then quickly poo poo out a paper and have it be considered gold.

I guess I'm not disagreeing with you, I just wanted to say a little further what was interesting about it.

And Kev's reaction was perfect.

Esroc
May 31, 2010

Goku would be ashamed of you.

Brennan posted:

Lip having to come to terms with not being the smartest guy in the group anymore is setting up to be really interesting.

I didn't get that impression at all. Just that he's realizing he can't half-rear end things anymore.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
I don't think it's about half-assing it or being not the smartest, look back at the impromptu MIT letter he wrote. It's about how he focuses more on making glib social commentary about a subject in favor of actually critically discussing the subject and while that's very aware of him, that's not the assignment. He flat out told the MIT interviewer that he didn't want to take lecture classes, he thinks he's above it. It's about his attitude.

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

This show is truly the hidden gem of Sunday night television, and anyone that doesn't watch it needs to change that right now.

That being said, the season opener has me worried that Debbie's going to be making some bad decisions this season in the name of "being more grown up." In general, this might be a rough season for everyone. :ohdear:

On the other hand, V and Kev's story continues to be great, and Liam is the most adorable Gallagher :3: .

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Didn't Lip get the MIT guy to agree that he doesn't have to do generic undergrad bs? Should have gone there.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

nooneofconsequence posted:

Didn't Lip get the MIT guy to agree that he doesn't have to do generic undergrad bs? Should have gone there.

I don't think he agreed to anything. I think he was just listening to 'lip rant.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

Brennan posted:

Of course Carl has a gently caress Jay Cutler t-shirt

I wasn't really sure exactly what it said because it was half obscured by an over-shirt, but when I realized it, I started busting up laughing.

BodyMassageMachine posted:

That being said, the season opener has me worried that Debbie's going to be making some bad decisions this season in the name of "being more grown up." In general, this might be a rough season for everyone. :ohdear:

I had the same thought. The "coming of age" for Debbie, and all of the Gallagher kids for that matter, has been one of the most interesting things about this show, especially given that she is growing up so much at such a young age. Now that she is a few months older, and is starting to date boys, I can foresee a bad decision or two. But that is to be expected from this show.

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

Man, I'd seen the first couple of seasons of the UK show and managed to stop before it apparently became poo poo, but I've given the US version a chance because of you guys.


Season 2 is a lot less fun than season 1, but so loving watchable. I can't stop, but I feel so poo poo.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

(Previews)

I guess we know how Fiona screws it up this time. As usual she'll probably blame someone else too. That was one thing I liked about Jimmy at the end. He at least called her out on her crap.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Esroc posted:

I didn't get that impression at all. Just that he's realizing he can't half-rear end things anymore.

I really hope this is the direction they are going and they won't just have him give up on college and move back home.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
The biggest thing I'm noticing is that I really wanted Lip to go to college, and I was mad at him when he didn't care. Now that he's in college, everything you love about his character is suppressed. Like they're saying, "alright you wanted him here, this is what it did to him" and now I almost don't want him there any more. They could take it in any direction now and I really admire that sort of development.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

If he was going to give up and go home they wouldn't have kept him in Chicago.

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DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

nooneofconsequence posted:

If he was going to give up and go home they wouldn't have kept him in Chicago.

But I thought he was in MIT...Oh poo poo, did I gently caress up the OP?

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