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We cancel shows because not enough boys who buy toys watch them but we see nothing wrong with diluting a major franchise like Justice League by constantly releasing home videos that are each wildly different from each other and completely unrelated!
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Isn't the Tme Trapper a Legion villain? That could explain why out of every possible DC character they chose loving Karate Kid.
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Jan 16, 2014 13:20
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ToastyPotato posted:We cancel shows because not enough boys who buy toys watch them but we see nothing wrong with diluting a major franchise like Justice League by constantly releasing home videos that are each wildly different from each other and completely unrelated! And also are hot, hot garbage.
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Jan 16, 2014 15:34
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Lurdiak posted:And also are hot, hot garbage. I thought some of them were decent. 
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Jan 16, 2014 16:33
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DC's direct the video animated films are pretty mediocre a lot of the time but c'mon they aren't Young Justice levels of terrible.
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Jan 16, 2014 16:37
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I don't even think Young Justice was that bad. It just... bit off more it could chew, plotwise.
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Jan 16, 2014 16:46
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Episode to episode it was fine. But I've never seen a show that more needed to be less serial.
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Jan 16, 2014 17:59
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I feel that young justice had it's problems but they were massively overstated, at least for the first season. Some of them weren't even problems, like brent spiner's joker. He was terrible, yeah, but one of the most overexposed characters ever appearing in a bit part of one episode does not drat the entire series.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:07
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I think never being interesting or fun for even one second is a pretty big flaw for a show to have. I tend to be too harsh on the direct-to-video DC movies because I keep comparing them to JLU or the comics they're based on, I guess. They just feel kinda... lacking.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:13
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On the topic of Young Justice, for me what did it was that the characters were simply not that interesting in the first season and kept screwing up by hiding secrets and poo poo, then the season finale starts rolling out and they all realize this and work together and drat I'm finally liking these kids even if they beat up Batman and Superman kinda fast and started making out because reasons. Then season 2 rolls in and we get a ton of new characters dumped in and everyone from the last season has even more ridiculous issues or set up their lying and dickery into overdrive. I think the last episode I saw properly was the "Remember Grundy from that super awesome JLU episode? Lets do that again!"
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Jan 16, 2014 18:25
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jscolon2.0 posted:Episode to episode it was fine. But I've never seen a show that more needed to be less serial. Yeah, no kidding. Especially with the rumors about the writers having planned for the main story to last 7 seasons. I mean that would have been pretty cool, but it is pretty dang stupid to write your story under the assumption you'll get way more seasons than the average show. The standalone episodes tended to be the best, and for good reasons. Besides introducing a problem that they could actually solve for good, not having said episode end with The Light talking about how everything went according to plan was also a point in favor of standalone episodes.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:42
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:On the topic of Young Justice, for me what did it was that the characters were simply not that interesting in the first season and kept screwing up by hiding secrets and poo poo, then the season finale starts rolling out and they all realize this and work together and drat I'm finally liking these kids even if they beat up Batman and Superman kinda fast and started making out because reasons. Then season 2 rolls in and we get a ton of new characters dumped in and everyone from the last season has even more ridiculous issues or set up their lying and dickery into overdrive. Yeah I think the main issue with the show is that it expected the audience to care about a bunch of plot threads, but it didn't properly develop its characters. With the DTV DC movies, longer run times would definitely help, but I read somewhere that wasn't possible. I think it had something to do having a limited budget for each movie.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:46
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So I'm just getting into YJ at the moment, on the Dr. Fate episode. I always thought people were overplaying the excess of 'hello megan' but jesus christ it's maddening.
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Jan 20, 2014 18:07
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Kingtheninja posted:So I'm just getting into YJ at the moment, on the Dr. Fate episode. I always thought people were overplaying the excess of 'hello megan' but jesus christ it's maddening. It gets better. Sort of...
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Jan 20, 2014 18:28
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First Look at Son of Batman: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Son-of-Batman-First-Look-1076369.aspx The animation reminds me of YJ and the guy voicing Batman sounds way better than on the JL:War clips released so far. Interestingly, it doesn't seem a straight adaptation of Morrison's story.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:04
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:First Look at Son of Batman: That looks worlds better than JL:War.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:08
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The problem with WB Animation is that they insist on getting "name" actors for their movies even when that person isn't a good fit.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:08
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muscles like this? posted:The problem with WB Animation is that they insist on getting "name" actors for their movies even when that person isn't a good fit.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:11
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:First Look at Son of Batman: Who the gently caress decided to start calling Ra's Al Ghul "Raish"? I think it started with Under the Red Hood, and it aggravates me far more than it should.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:46
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Chaos Hippy posted:Who the gently caress decided to start calling Ra's Al Ghul "Raish"? I think it started with Under the Red Hood, and it aggravates me far more than it should. Did you miss the entire thing that was Batman the Animated Series? And that looks like utter poo poo. It says inspired by but it looks like they're just massively reworking the story.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:54
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Chaos Hippy posted:Who the gently caress decided to start calling Ra's Al Ghul "Raish"? I think it started with Under the Red Hood, and it aggravates me far more than it should. Pretty sure Nolan did it in Batman Begins too, iirc.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:54
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Urdnot Fire posted:"Hey, fans loved it when we cast an actor from Breaking Bad, let's try that again!" Hey, Cranston made an excellent Gordon and I will not hear anything otherwise 
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Jan 20, 2014 20:56
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TwoPair posted:Pretty sure Nolan did it in Batman Begins too, iirc. Nope.
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Jan 20, 2014 21:03
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I think that O'Neil actually thought it was pronounced Raysh.
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Jan 20, 2014 21:07
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To be honest, I'd kill for a Deathstroke voiced by Manu Bennet 
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Jan 20, 2014 21:08
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:First Look at Son of Batman:
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Jan 20, 2014 21:10
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Chaos Hippy posted:Who the gently caress decided to start calling Ra's Al Ghul "Raish"? I think it started with Under the Red Hood, and it aggravates me far more than it should. Nah it was a bit earlier than that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p9MwsUo7Us The Son of Batman thing looks alright. I think they understand that the fundamental core mechanic of Damian's character is and should always be a metaphor for the child of two separated parents. And that regardless for their feelings for each other, they love their child. Now you can have a lot of variations on that (how it's hard for Bruce to express that love or how Dick appears he'd be a better father when really he's just a Big Brother or Uncle, but not Father) but they seem to understand that. And frankly Grant Morrison stories are good to be inspired by, but I don't think any of his non-Superman or JLA stuff are really capable of being straight up adapted to film. The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 21:12
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Wait season two of YJ is a time skip? What is going on 
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Jan 20, 2014 21:38
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Chaos Hippy posted:Who the gently caress decided to start calling Ra's Al Ghul "Raish"? I think it started with Under the Red Hood, and it aggravates me far more than it should. There's a line by Talia in Arkham City where she says something like "Yeah, a lot of people think his name is pronounced 'Rahz,' but it's actually 'Raishe.'"
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Jan 20, 2014 22:16
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Kingtheninja posted:Wait season two of YJ is a time skip? What is going on A lot of people hated the time skip in the cartoon but I really thought it worked well. It's really sad that the whole universe they created is getting tossed aside, there was so much potential for interesting stories. They've released 2 stories that happen in the 5 year gap between seasons. There's a 6 issue comic miniseries also called Young Justice: Invasion that touches on a bit of what happened just before the season began. I think it just got collected into a trade, definitely worth hunting down. There's also a video game, Young Justice: Legacy that tells another story of some stuff that happened as well. Same writers and voices as the show and there are some parts to the story. But the game is really poorly put together and glitchy as hell. The only way they plan to continue the story into a 3rd season is through more video games since this company has the license, but since this one is so god awful I think we're out of luck.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:19
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The Question IRL posted:Nah it was a bit earlier than that. Well, poo poo. I was certain I remembered him being called "Rahz" in the animated series.
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Jan 21, 2014 00:59
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Sockser posted:There's a line by Talia in Arkham City where she says something like "Yeah, a lot of people think his name is pronounced 'Rahz,' but it's actually 'Raishe.'" On Arrow they pronounce it 'Rahz' like the Nolan movies. Although its obviously not supposed to be the same person, mostly because in Arrow its the League of Assassins.
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Jan 21, 2014 01:11
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:First Look at Son of Batman: Honestly it didn't sound that much better to me considering Batman is voiced by the same guy doing JL: War.
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Jan 21, 2014 01:42
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Speaking of Ra's and Young Justice I really like that they got the guy from the Mummy Movies to voice him. Its always hard to listen to Deathstroke, because I just love the Ron Perlman version so much.
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Jan 21, 2014 02:00
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muscles like this? posted:On Arrow they pronounce it 'Rahz' like the Nolan movies. Although its obviously not supposed to be the same person, mostly because in Arrow its the League of Assassins. Other then the Nolan films and Arrow it's pronounced Raish everywhere else. Sockser posted:There's a line by Talia in Arkham City where she says something like "Yeah, a lot of people think his name is pronounced 'Rahz,' but it's actually 'Raishe.'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88bUiNd8vA
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Jan 21, 2014 02:12
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MonsterEnvy posted:Other then the Nolan films and Arrow it's pronounced Raish everywhere else. Then it got weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_wrUs2SEZE
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Jan 21, 2014 05:36
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Not to interrupt Batchat, but I hit upon something the other week. If you ignore the anime series they did (and who wouldn't), it's been almost five years since we've had an X-Men cartoon. But not for a lack of interest during that time - we've had the Wolverine movies, X-Men First Class, and now the new Days of Future Past one. Admittedly I would rather that Marvel's animation division not touch the X-Men with a fifty foot pole considering what an atrocious pile of poo poo all their other cartoons are at present, but I'm genuinely curious why they haven't bothered trying to market the ever-loving gently caress out of one of their more popular properties.
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Jan 21, 2014 19:25
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Just watched Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox. What a pointlessly nihilistic waste of animation. Showing a dark, dystopian future is one thing, but gratuitously showing the death of nearly every single superhero in bloody detail is just so wrong I can't even begin to explain it. And when Wonder Woman murdered a kid, it took every ounce of strength I had not to shut it off right there. Honestly I have to think that Geoff Johns wrote this as some sort of indictment of grimdark comicbook storytelling, but I don't think he's possible of that kind of introspection. This movie is actually a perfect summation of the DiDio/Johns/Lee era, and why I stopped reading DC years ago. Seriously, who thought this was a good idea??
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Jan 21, 2014 20:01
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There's a trailer/announcement of Marvel’s Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher an anime adventure in anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXcD3ZOiox0 quote:“After interfering with a top secret mission, The Punisher is taken into custody by S.H.I.E.L.D. agent and Avenger Black Widow. At the orders of Director Nick Fury, Punisher and Black Widow are sent on a mission to stop Leviathan, a global terrorist organization that plans to sell stolen S.H.I.E.L.D. technology to the highest bidder. Now, the vigilante and spy must work together to prevent this technology from falling into the wrong hands. The fate of the world, and of the Avengers, hangs in the balance.” source It has fauxhawk Captain Marvel!
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Jan 21, 2014 20:06
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Nice to see Carol taking anime hair fashion tips from Franky.
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