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Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
Korlac, what's your Uplay name?

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Korlac
Nov 16, 2006

A quintessential being known throughout the Realm as the 'Dungeon Master'. :rolldice:
Oh, and can I get added to the Friends list in the OP please.

BlaineBerserker

I need to get that achievement if possible. I also need to finally get 200 drat Void Rising cards so I can finally pick stuff I need at the Alter of Wishes (And then Wolf Captains will finally be mine!).

Chubbs
Feb 13, 2008

In a thousand years, Gandahar was destroyed. A thousand years ago, Gandahar will be saved, and what can't be avoided will be.
Grimey Drawer

Korlac posted:

I picked it as my starter and I've got some decent cards from various pack drops.

From what I read it sounds like I'm struggling because I'm missing a few key cards, like Wolf Captains, and because I don't have an overall strategy with the deck. Sounds like I need to prep to weather the storm of the early rounds because most decks will out damage me, but once I get into the later rounds my protection and ability to heal all my dudes should make me a late game contender.

It might help if you set a limit on the might/magic/destiny requirements of your cards. For instance, try taking out any creatures that need more than 4 might, or spells that need more than 3 magic, etc. It'll improve your early game and reduce the chances of getting bad starting hands (and give you more chances to draw extra cards with your hero). With Haven, you've got a lot of good low cost creatures that you should be able to spit out quickly at the start of the game to maintain some control over the board, like Wolf Guards, Imperial Crossbowmen and Sentinels.

If your deck is large in size, I definitely recommend trimming out some of the less effective creatures so that you're left with the tried and true cards that are useful in a variety of situations. It's a gradual, evolutionary process.

Chubbs fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 15, 2014

Korlac
Nov 16, 2006

A quintessential being known throughout the Realm as the 'Dungeon Master'. :rolldice:

Chubbs posted:

If your deck is large in size, I definitely recommend trimming out some of the less effective creatures so that you're left with the tried and true cards that are useful in a variety of situations. It's a gradual, evolutionary process.

I've found that there are certain pit traps I need to avoid. A good example are the Crusader Watchmen. They were a novelty but really there's no reason to take them over the Expert Marksmen. It's a matter of avoiding those kinds of traps and really making my deck lean/mean. Now that I have Alia, Caller of Faith I feel like there's some strategy to be had so I need to fill out my spells with decent fire crowd control and then figure out what creatures I need and don't need.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Korlac posted:

I've found that there are certain pit traps I need to avoid. A good example are the Crusader Watchmen. They were a novelty but really there's no reason to take them over the Expert Marksmen. It's a matter of avoiding those kinds of traps and really making my deck lean/mean. Now that I have Alia, Caller of Faith I feel like there's some strategy to be had so I need to fill out my spells with decent fire crowd control and then figure out what creatures I need and don't need.

You're really wrong there, Watchmen is the preferred shooter 2 drop in Haven because of its 5 health. If it gets Firebolted, who cares you made him waste a Firebolt and the Week of Training event gives Watchmen atk anyway.

Korlac
Nov 16, 2006

A quintessential being known throughout the Realm as the 'Dungeon Master'. :rolldice:

Tae posted:

You're really wrong there, Watchmen is the preferred shooter 2 drop in Haven because of its 5 health. If it gets Firebolted, who cares you made him waste a Firebolt and the Week of Training event gives Watchmen atk anyway.

So to my point then, there's strategy I'm missing.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007
So in a bid to honor their commitment to have sale promotions every week, Ubisoft has decided that this week the special will be....No sales! Another brilliant feat of marketing from Ubisoft!

Seriously, how are any of these people still employed? Its like they hate money or something.

Mr.48 fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jan 15, 2014

Dinosaur Satan
Oct 27, 2005

Helen, I'll love you always.
I'm having a lot of fun facing off against spell-heavy decks and beating them with a creatureless Ignatius deck. It's almost like playing a different game. So far the biggest threat is creature-heavy Necropolis decks and Pao Deathseeker.

Futuresight
Oct 11, 2012

IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!
For the second time in about a week 60 TELO was not enough to cash out in jackpot. Looks like you really need to win 3 in a row to guarantee payment. I'm not sure if that's because there are less or more players playing jackpot than previously when it was seemingly always enough to cash out.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
For the next month or so, Telo requirements are going to be higher because of a Beat the Jack tournament that requires players to be in the top 50 ranking for 4/5 Jackpots. 300 telo before would be good for around top 10, now it's barely good for top 40.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Tae posted:

For the next month or so, Telo requirements are going to be higher because of a Beat the Jack tournament that requires players to be in the top 50 ranking for 4/5 Jackpots. 300 telo before would be good for around top 10, now it's barely good for top 40.

I love how the ipad client has no information about this event other than "here's an unclickable link LOL".

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Promoted Pawn posted:

I love how the ipad client has no information about this event other than "here's an unclickable link LOL".

Steam client is the exact same, its really poor when what is probably the least used client is the only way to see the info. Steam is likely the most popular, and I could easily see a ton of people switching to it with the steam sale and free Christmas cards for having used steam during the steam sale. Its possible the launcher client is more popular then the iPad one, but I kinda doubt it, at the very least the only one it works in has to have less then 50% market share. (Everyone outside of making the cards and balancing them sucks horribly at their jobs in this game).

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


pixaal posted:

Steam client is the exact same, its really poor when what is probably the least used client is the only way to see the info. Steam is likely the most popular, and I could easily see a ton of people switching to it with the steam sale and free Christmas cards for having used steam during the steam sale. Its possible the launcher client is more popular then the iPad one, but I kinda doubt it, at the very least the only one it works in has to have less then 50% market share. (Everyone outside of making the cards and balancing them sucks horribly at their jobs in this game).

It's even worse on the iPad client though since the OS doesn't see it as text so you can't C&P it into a browser bar, and you can't switch back and forth to manually type it into Safari since if you spend more than a few seconds with MMDoC in the background, it takes enough of the program out of memory that you log out. Literally the only way to visit that link on the iPad is to bring up a web browser on another device and manually type it in there.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Anyone who is likely to be able to enter the Beat The Jack tournament, even through the underdogs bracket, is going to have more sources of info than just the front page. Even if you don't regularly visit MMDOC King, if you Google either "uraxor" or "beat the jack" the tournament is in the top 5 results and if you Google both it's number 1.

It's also not going to affect the required ranking for lower tiers much, if at all. The main effect is to attenuate the players in Tier 1, who have to keep playing to guarantee their 0.5% status. The points enter the system at the other end from players losing repeatedly at 0 or 1 T-Elo, and those players aren't grinding for longer trying to get into a tournament for players who are consistently T1. It'll be slightly less likely that you won't get T5 with 60 points, but that was always a possibility anyway.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Jedit posted:

Anyone who is likely to be able to enter the Beat The Jack tournament, even through the underdogs bracket, is going to have more sources of info than just the front page. Even if you don't regularly visit MMDOC King, if you Google either "uraxor" or "beat the jack" the tournament is in the top 5 results and if you Google both it's number 1.

My point is that someone is clearly not doing their job if closing down the app and going to Google is the most convenient way to find info on a thing that's being promoted from within the app.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Korlac posted:

So to my point then, there's strategy I'm missing.

Watchmen are god drat amazing because dropping a 2/2/5 on t1 really scares the piss out of people. If you're still at the point where you can get away with running devoted sisters in tandem with watchmen, it's fairly easy to maintain board advantage for a long time.

Lorem ipsum
Sep 25, 2007
IF I REPORT SOMETHING, BAN ME.
I just won 23 matches in a row from people surrendering on like turn 3. This is just getting silly.

Epic Doctor Fetus
Jul 23, 2003

I think I figured out how to game the JP tournies. The break point for T5 seems to be between 60 and 61 tELO, with a substantial number of participants having either 60 or 61. If you win 2 in a row, you get a tELO of 60. If you lose 1 and then win 2, you get a tELO of 61. It appears that your best bet for low effort cashing in on JPs it to throw your first match and then win the next two.

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009
So I've been trying this out (coming from Hearthstone), and:

*I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that Enrage is terrible (bloodlust is ok though). The creatures with it feel newtered without any tokens and... Just okay with. It has a synergy with the sacrificial altar, but that's about it. I really want enrage to be good, though, for some reason. Maybe because I'm stuck with stronghold.

*Games started off fun. Now I'm playing proper decks and things are just miserable. I got a bunch of "free" elo from tankers, so I'm wondering: do I need to play a war of attrition with elo tankers in order to play decks on my level? I'm guessing ubi isn't planning on doing anything to prevent tanking?

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

Kjoery posted:

*Games started off fun. Now I'm playing proper decks and things are just miserable. I got a bunch of "free" elo from tankers, so I'm wondering: do I need to play a war of attrition with elo tankers in order to play decks on my level? I'm guessing ubi isn't planning on doing anything to prevent tanking?

It's kind of an annoying state of affairs, yeah.

There is a 1 drop that throws enrage counters out every turn, but I think it only gets played at lower elo, I think for the most part enrage creatures are avoided, it's more like a bonus if you an get some use out of it.

There is a reverse enrage ability where it gets +1/+1 for every one of the opponent's creatures that dies, the Shahar Brute, that are pretty great when you get some.

Korlac
Nov 16, 2006

A quintessential being known throughout the Realm as the 'Dungeon Master'. :rolldice:
Okay, Wolf Captains are the freaking bee-knees! Good god why didn't I have a few of you girls earlier.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Epic Doctor Fetus posted:

I think I figured out how to game the JP tournies. The break point for T5 seems to be between 60 and 61 tELO, with a substantial number of participants having either 60 or 61. If you win 2 in a row, you get a tELO of 60. If you lose 1 and then win 2, you get a tELO of 61. It appears that your best bet for low effort cashing in on JPs it to throw your first match and then win the next two.

Except you don't always get 30 points for winning. If you're on 1 and you play a 0 instead of another 1, you get 29 points and you may as well have won your first match. If the 0 wins, he gets 31 points. I'm on 5-0 this week (where I have to park, sadly) and I'm on 151 T-Elo.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Finally, my first opponents.txt! :toot:

Circoncision posted:

more luck
please
more luck
noob
noob
noob
more luck
please
more luck
noob
noob
noob
losing against a noob lucker 1000 elo
piece of poo poo

He was playing some horridly janky sanctuary deck and I facerolled him with a bad World Champ opener. I could have killed him two turns earlier than I did too if I'd not drawn terribly. Some people are just awful.



E: Is the Crimson Sands precon deck worth getting? It seems like the only way to get Five Towers cards with gold, and it's got Hakeem in it which I'm going to want anyways.

Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jan 17, 2014

Epic Doctor Fetus
Jul 23, 2003

Jedit posted:

Except you don't always get 30 points for winning. If you're on 1 and you play a 0 instead of another 1, you get 29 points and you may as well have won your first match. If the 0 wins, he gets 31 points. I'm on 5-0 this week (where I have to park, sadly) and I'm on 151 T-Elo.

I guess just keep throwing games until you face another tELO 1. It only takes a couple of seconds. ;)

In related news, I won my first two JPs (which is when I realized the tELO 60 thing), so I figured I might as well go for three wins or a loss and another win to get to 61+. I lost my third match. Then my forth. And then I yo-yoed between 1 and 31 for another 10 matches before I finally got up to 61. Assuming I cash in, I'll still be a little compared to just playing duels, but it was definitely more frustrating this time. Heh.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


So on a whim I rolled a new account just to see if I could win the box lottery and dig myself out of the hole that my original account was in. Spent all my campaign and new player seals on a box of the first expansion, and got 2 Ishumas and 2-4 of pretty much all the staples for her deck that appear in that expansion. Spent the wildcards on 2 each of Deathseekers and Assassins, and got a 3rd of both from reinforcement packs I earned through achievements. Now I have a solid foundation for an awesome deck that's tearing up the low ELO players while I earn the seals for a Forgotten Wars box that'll get me most of the other half of the deck I'm missing, and all before I hit level 6.

If only I had done this 25 levels ago. New UPlay name: PPawn

Promoted Pawn fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jan 17, 2014

Mr.48
May 1, 2007
Just managed to save up enough seals to get the Road to Paris deck, so now I guess its time to make a spellthor deck for swiss.

e: someone posted a way to get promo codes (2 prem reinforcement packs and 10k gold) from some Turkish promotion:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/824808-New-Promo-Code

Worked for me.

Mr.48 fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jan 17, 2014

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Mr.48 posted:

Just managed to save up enough seals to get the Road to Paris deck, so now I guess its time to make a spellthor deck for swiss.

e: someone posted a way to get promo codes (2 prem reinforcement packs and 10k gold) from some Turkish promotion:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/824808-New-Promo-Code

Worked for me.

Same here, thanks. Got Kat's Grand Finale and Cass's Big Hug, and I already have the Base Set premium deck achievement, but it's all extra gold in the long run.

sixteenstraws
May 7, 2009

slave to a label but I own my masters
I've been playing this for a few days. IGN is sixteenstraws.

Got to 450~ ELO using this Crag Hack deck - http://tools.mmdocking.com/decks/show/3932. Originally it had more enrage creatures + Insect Swarm but I only won like 20% of my games, not including the crazy amount of weird forfeits (I got to well over 100 without actually beating anyone). Since then I've only lost once, in a really close match vs a Cassandra deck.

I was thinking of adding another Deathseeker, 2 Dark Assassins, maybe some more Shredders and some Vulture Riders? I feel like I should cut down of the amount of creatures though.

Not sure about the fortunes. Campfire looks good but it seems like I hardly ever draw it. I have a couple extra Stampedes, Suprise Attacks and a Kat's Grand Fianle, as well as another Blood Hut and Sacrificial Altar.

I know the events suck but it's the best of what I've got.

I've been buying Herald of the Void and Reinforcement packs. I almost have enough seals to buy the Champions Deck but I kinda feel that I'll have wasted the wildcards I've already spent on things included in the deck. :/ it would give me a lot of what I want, but I don't want to just copy that guy either (even though I'm pretty much using the poor man's version of his deck right now).

Insect Swarm worked really well when I use using it, would spells work well with this deck?

This is the first card game I've played, after watching some Hearthstone streams got me interested about the same time I saw this during the steam sale and it's a lot of fun so :)

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Heroes with 0 starting Magic generally don't run spells (and if they do, it's only the barest of them, like 1-drops). Crag Hack in particular almost never runs magic. If you like Insect Swarm and Stronghold, maybe look at Kat or Shaar.

If you want to focus on creatures, the Champion deck really does give you a lot of what you want.

Cryohazard
Feb 5, 2010

Korlac posted:

So to my point then, there's strategy I'm missing.

Or more precisely, Haven uniques. Anael especially.

Epic Doctor Fetus
Jul 23, 2003

Mr.48 posted:

e: someone posted a way to get promo codes (2 prem reinforcement packs and 10k gold) from some Turkish promotion:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/824808-New-Promo-Code


Looks like they're out.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

sixteenstraws posted:

I've been playing this for a few days. IGN is sixteenstraws.

Got to 450~ ELO using this Crag Hack deck - http://tools.mmdocking.com/decks/show/3932. Originally it had more enrage creatures + Insect Swarm but I only won like 20% of my games, not including the crazy amount of weird forfeits (I got to well over 100 without actually beating anyone). Since then I've only lost once, in a really close match vs a Cassandra deck.

I was thinking of adding another Deathseeker, 2 Dark Assassins, maybe some more Shredders and some Vulture Riders? I feel like I should cut down of the amount of creatures though.

Not sure about the fortunes. Campfire looks good but it seems like I hardly ever draw it. I have a couple extra Stampedes, Suprise Attacks and a Kat's Grand Fianle, as well as another Blood Hut and Sacrificial Altar.

I know the events suck but it's the best of what I've got.

I've been buying Herald of the Void and Reinforcement packs. I almost have enough seals to buy the Champions Deck but I kinda feel that I'll have wasted the wildcards I've already spent on things included in the deck. :/ it would give me a lot of what I want, but I don't want to just copy that guy either (even though I'm pretty much using the poor man's version of his deck right now).

Insect Swarm worked really well when I use using it, would spells work well with this deck?

This is the first card game I've played, after watching some Hearthstone streams got me interested about the same time I saw this during the steam sale and it's a lot of fun so :)

I'd suggest running 2-3 Stampedes instead of Campfire. Stampede routinely wins games for my Crag Hack deck and having it can turn situations where I lose into ones where I win. I'd also advise playing more Serpentfly, Goblin Scout, and Dark Assassin, since Crag is all about getting that early tempo advantage and riding it to victory.

I wouldn't worry about playing "too many" creatures. They're what will do the work for you, and if you get some Week of the Mercenaries (you should get those), having more than a slight splash of fortunes might be a liability.

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Tao Jones posted:

and if you get some Week of the Mercenaries (you should get those), having more than a slight splash of fortunes might be a liability.
From what I've seen, WotM is one of the strongest aggro cards in the game (it also synergies nicely with blood shaman hut).

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



sixteenstraws posted:


Insect Swarm worked really well when I use using it, would spells work well with this deck?

This is the first card game I've played, after watching some Hearthstone streams got me interested about the same time I saw this during the steam sale and it's a lot of fun so :)

Crag Hack should basically never play spells. And it is very bad in a deck based around dumping a pile of cheap creatures into play.

The world champ deck looks like it still has a good amount of cards for you, it would put you at a full Crag Hack deck, minus some Serpentflies.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

Tao Jones posted:

I wouldn't worry about playing "too many" creatures. They're what will do the work for you, and if you get some Week of the Mercenaries (you should get those), having more than a slight splash of fortunes might be a liability.

If there is any doubt, do Week of Mercs and before you do any hero action, so that you have the option of drawing, if it comes up tails and that's a big deal at the moment.

Korlac
Nov 16, 2006

A quintessential being known throughout the Realm as the 'Dungeon Master'. :rolldice:
While I'm still enjoying the game, I wish it had more play options that just 1v1. Something akin to MtGO's 2 or 3 headed giant or free-for-all gameplay would be nice.

goldjas
Feb 22, 2009

I HATE ALL FORMS OF FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. I HATE BEAUTY. I AM GOLDJAS.
So does this game have the option to use 1 card in more then 1 deck yet? I said around 2 years ago (even sent them an e-mail but I'm sure it never got read) that I wouldn't play the game again until they added that feature, but when they did, I would spend money on the game. How are they faring on this front?

Bizarro Kale
Oct 15, 2005

goldjas posted:

So does this game have the option to use 1 card in more then 1 deck yet? I said around 2 years ago (even sent them an e-mail but I'm sure it never got read) that I wouldn't play the game again until they added that feature, but when they did, I would spend money on the game. How are they faring on this front?

They added this in the most recent expansion, it's pretty great.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
So I finally jumped back into the game yesterday and put together a quick 4/4/0 Akane Sanctuary deck. It's working alright (missing a few Lightning Strikes), and her ability is great, but I don't have anything extremely cohesive yet. The slightly annoying thing is having to pump 1 into Destiny for Stream Singers and Venerable Kappas, but I'm still tweaking it, so who knows if they're going to stick around. I've thought about Mizu-Kamis, but a 5-drop for a 2/1/5 is a little underwhelming - if it had Enemy Spell Ward instead I'd add it in a heartbeat.

I now have 3 different Sanctuary decks, I might have a problem. The only thing stopping me from making another is that I don't want to make an Ishuma deck, and I don't see a point in playing Kaiko when Yukiko or Akane are essentially better.

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Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


So this was posted on the Steam forum for this game by someone on he dev team re: turn 1 resignations and ELO manipulating

quote:

Hello everyone,
We already have a system detecting this kind of behavior. For the moment, we don't want to "prevent" it, because sometimes, people do need to lower their ELO (our system is far from perfect, and we know that ;) We are working on improving it). But we have a system detecting chain surrendering, and warning/banning people according to this! So I don't advise you to do so :)

So we know our ELO system is kind of lovely and encourages this behavior but we don't want to do anything about it but we may ban for it!

I just...what??

It seems to me beyond counterproductive to start banning people for doing things your game encourages. People will do what they can to win within your system and if that this is not fun and/or ruining it for others then that is your problem as a developer for setting that system up like that in the first place.

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