|
Grendels Dad posted:That's because that's a fair way to describe him in a world where drones are public knowledge. It doesn't mean that they'll handle the accompanying commentary well. My point with bringing up The Avengers was that a movie can have those elements, and a remake of RoboCop will have those elements by default. I mean, they'd have to do really badly to not have any kind of subtext in a remake of RoboCop, but the trailers makes it look like it's going to be The Avengers kind of subtext and not the Verhoeven kind of subtext. The trailer comes right out and says the public face of law enforcement will be an emotionless robot that only thinks it's human. I'm pretty sure that's Verhoeven level of subtext, if not quite so cheesily 80s.
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2014 17:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 15:10 |
|
|
Grendels Dad posted:That's because that's a fair way to describe him in a world where drones are public knowledge. It doesn't mean that they'll handle the accompanying commentary well. My point with bringing up The Avengers was that a movie can have those elements, and a remake of RoboCop will have those elements by default. I mean, they'd have to do really badly to not have any kind of subtext in a remake of RoboCop, but the trailers makes it look like it's going to be The Avengers kind of subtext and not the Verhoeven kind of subtext. No it doesn't.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2014 17:13
|
|
|
Come on, now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2014 17:19
|
|
|
Whether or not this will be a decent movie is up in the air but these arguments are getting funny.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2014 17:22
|
|
|
If the grenades don't have an LED clock counting down, I'm not going to see this movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2014 17:23
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8vuu0ZbvX8 This was posted by IGN yesterday but I just saw it. It's a training scene in which Robo has to take out a few drones set to some generic rock music. Not particularly exciting, but it's only a minute long and doesn't show him fighting any real threatening enemies. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jan 17, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 07:17
|
|
|
Rageaholic Monkey posted:set to some generic rock music Come on now... Hocus Pocus is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 07:29
|
|
|
Pingiivi posted:Come on now... Hocus Pocus is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q  But whatever was used in that scene wasn't. It didn't get me hyped up at all.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 07:34
|
|
|
Rageaholic Monkey posted:Okay, that is pretty great, I won't deny it It's the album version of that song. E: And yeah it doesn't really fit albeit being a great track. The action is boring.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 07:50
|
|
|
Oh sure, the enemy drones with guns run up straight at you to shoot you and you don't have to deal with them until they're ten feet away? Huh? Uhhh, now compare that to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBccZfvPXFc I think I have decided that with Basil Poledouris dead, this film has no hope at all.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 08:47
|
|
|
Pingiivi posted:It's the album version of that song. To be fair, the action scene hasn't even started.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 09:41
|
|
|
Rageaholic Monkey posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8vuu0ZbvX8  That was a pretty lame and boring action scene.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 10:46
|
|
|
I just got my press invitation to this. Rather ominously its the night before general release (usually press screenings are a month or so out). I don't want to pre-judge the film but in my experience this is not a sign of confidence from the studio.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 10:52
|
|
|
Mr. Flunchy posted:I just got my press invitation to this. Rather ominously its the night before general release (usually press screenings are a month or so out). I don't want to pre-judge the film but in my experience this is not a sign of confidence from the studio.  Release is a little less than 4 weeks away, so I guess we'll see if they start pushing it closer to release. But I still have yet to see anything on TV about this or any YouTube ads or...really any promotion at all for this movie aside from cardboard cutouts in the local AMC theaters and the trailer being shown before one movie I saw in theaters.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 11:01
|
|
|
Young Freud posted:To be fair, the action scene hasn't even started. Also there's a  drum and bass version of that song so they might transition into that when the proper action starts.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 11:23
|
|
|
The trailers are trying to get butts in seats for an action movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 13:04
|
|
|
oneof27 posted:The trailers are trying to get butts in seats for an action movie. Yup! I would bet any amount of money there's like ten minutes of action tops in this movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 15:14
|
|
|
AlternateAccount posted:Oh sure, the enemy drones with guns run up straight at you to shoot you and you don't have to deal with them until they're ten feet away? Huh? I had a feeling that this was the scene linked. Man, I can watch it forever.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 15:22
|
|
|
Such generic action crap... "On the count of 3.... 3!!!" 
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 16:06
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:Such generic action crap... I would care more if I thought this was going to be an action movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 16:52
|
|
|
I don't know the background of that song, and I don't really care to. But, it does not fit that scene.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 17:17
|
|
|
Vintimus Prime posted:I had a feeling that this was the scene linked. Man, I can watch it forever. It's interesting that in both scenes, the bad guys(or drones) really present zero threat to Robocop, yet only one of them manages to still be entertaining.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 17:38
|
|
|
Hockles posted:I don't know the background of that song, and I don't really care to. But, it does not fit that scene. I dunno, I liked the yodeling that kicked in the last few seconds. Action sequences are crying out for more yodeling.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 18:00
|
|
|
Looks like Robocop got a 12 rating in the uk. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/robocop-new
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 18:54
|
|
|
AlternateAccount posted:It's interesting that in both scenes, the bad guys(or drones) really present zero threat to Robocop, yet only one of them manages to still be entertaining. That makes me think that Maddox or whatever his name is supposed to be the modern equivalent of Boddecker. Also, notice he's wearing a power armor rig. If Elysium hadn't come out a few months earlier, he might be a somewhat memorable character. Now, it's going to look like a Kruger ripoff.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 18:56
|
|
|
Slasherfan posted:Looks like Robocop got a 12 rating in the uk. From what I'm able to find the thing you're linking to is the trailer for RoboCop. And it's from 2007, so it's not the one you're thinking of.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 19:00
|
|
|
Young Freud posted:That makes me think that Maddox or whatever his name is supposed to be the modern equivalent of Boddecker. Elysium came out in August. It's a full six months apart. It doesn't look like an Elysium ripoff at all.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 19:03
|
|
|
computer parts posted:From what I'm able to find the thing you're linking to is the trailer for RoboCop. That's really strange. It was on the bbfc front page about 10 minutes ago but it's gone now, it was the new one cause I read the cast list. I hit the back button on my phone and it came up This Page Cannot Be Displayed, very strange. Slasherfan fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jan 17, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 19:05
|
|
|
Clarence Boddicker almost killed Robocop and he weighed about 160lbs, wore glasses and didn't need any drat power armor.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 20:41
|
|
|
AlternateAccount posted:Clarence Boddicker almost killed Robocop and he weighed about 160lbs, wore glasses and didn't need any drat power armor. He did need a pile of steel girders to be dropped on Robocop first, though. The 2010s aren't the 80s in any case, and this is a different Robocop, which is evidenced in some of the quick, smooth movements he makes.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 23:19
|
|
|
AlternateAccount posted:Clarence Boddicker almost killed Robocop and he weighed about 160lbs, wore glasses and didn't need any drat power armor. Well haven't you heard? He's the man in old Detroit.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2014 23:22
|
|
|
parasyte posted:
That line really highlights something unfortunate about NuRobocop. Especially after playing Metal Gear Rising: REVENGEANCE. See, New Rowboat Cop is neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring. He's not slow like old Robocop, an immovable object that doesn't give a rat's rear end what you throw at him. He's going to keep going, and eventually he's going to crush you. But he's not like Raiden in Revengeance either. No ridiculous feats, no moves that would snap John McClane's spine like a twig, no backflipping over a robot as he plunges a knife into its skull. He's just moving like any other action movie protagonist of the last decade. I mean, I'm not demanding that he move like the old model. I just want something that says the dude lost his humanity in the way he moves, and they don't have it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 09:20
|
|
|
Yeah, I see your meaning. There are some graceful movements in the IGN clip, but there are some that would be at home in the 80s still and others that just look like a dude in a thin rubber suit. I think MGS:R is way over the top for whatever the movie intends, but the scene depicted feels a bit off.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 11:32
|
|
|
chiasaur11 posted:I just want something that says the dude lost his humanity in the way he moves, and they don't have it. Everything I've seen in the trailers suggest that this movie isn't about a loss of humanity. Even the design doesn't look like a machine with a human soul trapped deep within, it just looks like Alex Murphy is wearing videogame space marine armour.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 17:02
|
|
|
Yeah, I'm with Moviebob on this one: "Sometimes it's just impossible to not pre-judge these things. The new Robocop movie is probably going to suck. But let's all try to act surprised anyway…when it sucks."
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 17:06
|
|
|
Speedball posted:Yeah, I'm with Moviebob on this one: "Sometimes it's just impossible to not pre-judge these things. The new Robocop movie is probably going to suck. But let's all try to act surprised anyway…when it sucks." Moviebob is a fuckhead.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 18:20
|
|
|
A Doomed Purloiner posted:Everything I've seen in the trailers suggest that this movie isn't about a loss of humanity. Even the design doesn't look like a machine with a human soul trapped deep within, it just looks like Alex Murphy is wearing videogame space marine armour. I thought people have said the deal is Murphy doesn't realise he doesn't have free will and he's just following a program that makes him think he's choosing to do what he's doing because they just want to make their robots more people-friendly. Sounds like it fits the theme to me.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 21:20
|
|
|
Grab Meatcastle posted:I thought people have said the deal is Murphy doesn't realise he doesn't have free will and he's just following a program that makes him think he's choosing to do what he's doing because they just want to make their robots more people-friendly. Sounds like it fits the theme to me. Someone suggested earlier that this movie might be an inverse of the first- where the original was about Murphy being made into a cyborg, but retaining his humanity, this film might make him look more human, but it's just a facade. I would be very alright with that, since they really can't have him move and look the way he does and keep the old theme. By the way, the remake and this thread convinced me to watch the original and its sequel. I'm really glad I did.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 21:50
|
|
|
A Doomed Purloiner posted:Everything I've seen in the trailers suggest that this movie isn't about a loss of humanity. Even the design doesn't look like a machine with a human soul trapped deep within, it just looks like Alex Murphy is wearing videogame space marine armour. Apparently, Rubbercop is a machine that think it's a man. Also, there's a scene in the Chinese trailer where RoboCop is getting shot to poo poo by ED-209 and you can clearly see an edoskeleton beneath his torn flesh. Castor Poe fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jan 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 22:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 15:10 |
|
|
AGirlWonder posted:By the way, the remake and this thread convinced me to watch the original and its sequel. I'm really glad I did. And by sequel I hope you mean Robocop 2 and not 3  You probably did, though, because you'd be singing a different tune if you had watched 3.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2014 23:01
|
|