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Jippa posted:play on a server with active admins. This is the only anti-cheat that works. Its even better now that you can spectate people to make sure you are banning actual cheaters and not some guy who is really good / got a lucky streak.
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FadedReality posted:I know, and it bums me out that after this long of PB being absolutely terrible, there's still no serious competitor besides VAC. The problem is that the greater degree of protection, the more intrusive it is, and in turn, the more problems users will have with it when some awkward hardware or driver setup makes it vomit. PB is at least pretty stable in that regard. The only thing I really don't like about it is that its self-update functionality clearly has issues, running pbsetup isn't something that should be necessary ever.
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Can anyone help me start the loving game? I've played a few days after release, then it started crashing constantly. Reinstalled it twice, no deal. Wanted to play again yesterday, reinstalled again and it doesn't even start. It just crashes / disconnects from EA online as soon as I join a server. I've obviously updated the plugin, and my computer isn't dying (well cooled, CPU at 30c GPU at about 50c) I just don't know what else I can try. I've paid 100$ for base + premium and want my moneys worth 
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Skilleddk posted:Can anyone help me start the loving game? I've played a few days after release, then it started crashing constantly. Reinstalled it twice, no deal. Wanted to play again yesterday, reinstalled again and it doesn't even start. It just crashes / disconnects from EA online as soon as I join a server. I've obviously updated the plugin, and my computer isn't dying (well cooled, CPU at 30c GPU at about 50c) What browser are you running battlelog from? Also I assume you have tried the usual update your drivers, tried a bunch of different servers, etc.
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OneEightHundred posted:Publishing the source code to anti-cheat software would effectively be publishing instructions on how to circumvent it. I don't think security through obscurity is a good thing here. I think it would be better if it was out in the open with tons of people hacking away on it so the the holes can be patched. There's gotta be some sort of way to connect all the people that don't want cheaters in their game with the authors of the cheat software (and the game studio so they can patch it). Why do people make cheats? Probably because it's fun to break stuff. There's also probably people that are in it for monetary gain. I assume there's websites you can buy leet hax for games?
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Jan 17, 2014 11:17
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I got AA Service Star 100 and it didn't even give me a dogtag or anything 
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Skilleddk posted:Can anyone help me start the loving game? I've played a few days after release, then it started crashing constantly. Reinstalled it twice, no deal. Wanted to play again yesterday, reinstalled again and it doesn't even start. It just crashes / disconnects from EA online as soon as I join a server. I've obviously updated the plugin, and my computer isn't dying (well cooled, CPU at 30c GPU at about 50c) Have you updated Punkbuster manually? That issue sounds like a textbook punkbuster fuckup.
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fletcher posted:There's gotta be some sort of way to connect all the people that don't want cheaters in their game with the authors of the cheat software (and the game studio so they can patch it). Why do people make cheats? Probably because it's fun to break stuff. There's also probably people that are in it for monetary gain. I assume there's websites you can buy leet hax for games? All the people making cheats these days are in it for the money, the best sites even gives you new copies of the game if you get banned. (or so I've heard)
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Back in good old CS days, hacking was a matter of finding one, installing and try to not get banned by all the admins. When PB came out (and a bunch of other anticheats), it was the same but you just had to search for a non-popular one or modify it by yourself. Today if you want to cheat without having to worry, you just pay a subscription and keep it up to date. But I still don't understand why people do that as routine.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:What browser are you running battlelog from? Also I assume you have tried the usual update your drivers, tried a bunch of different servers, etc. Firefox, done all this but I'll try updating Punkbuster manually. How exactly do you do that though ?
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Skilleddk posted:Firefox, done all this but I'll try updating Punkbuster manually. How exactly do you do that though ? http://www.punkbuster.com/index.php?page=pbsetup.php
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fletcher posted:so the the holes can be patched. This suggests you believe this leads to some unbreakable anti cheat solution. It won't. There is no such thing as flawless. These holes will always exist. It is not sane to expect otherwise. Cheat development can be slowed down and made annoying/harder to accomplish by monitoring development of said hacks and using that to improve detection/make it harder to get hacks to even run but in the end it is flawed human work and it will be circumvented in time.
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Jan 17, 2014 12:49
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SplitSoul posted:Any tips on getting past that awful first sniper rifle? I can't hit poo poo. I used to do pretty well with the M40 in BC2. Do you also use "scope zeroing" ? Helped me a lot to get a hit on the first shot. Instead of shooting and adjusting... and seeing my target run away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmGej7_jYkA
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I don't know how LevelCap manages to do so well with the M4 with comp/grip/laser to convert it into a big AR. In his video it seems like a laser but when I try it it sprays all over the place.
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WastedJoker posted:I don't know how LevelCap manages to do so well with the M4 with comp/grip/laser to convert it into a big AR. In his video it seems like a laser but when I try it it sprays all over the place. Level is actually really loving good. I mean, I know there's the montage effect but he's done a lot of videos where there's barely any editing beyond stitching some long clips together, and he just demolishes poo poo.
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Gonkish posted:Level is actually really loving good. I mean, I know there's the montage effect but he's done a lot of videos where there's barely any editing beyond stitching some long clips together, and he just demolishes poo poo. Yeah, I watch his stuff and Sandy Ravage and they seem to have a natural ability that far exceeds mine! I just wonder if there's a technical issue I'm missing out on with the MG4 thing though - I tap the mouse button for a couple of shots to avoid the automatic fire penalty but it still gets a bit wild. LevelCap must do similar but his results are so much more accurate.
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Regarding PB and how poo poo it is, it seems the new server side program FairFight is actually working pretty well. Their facebook is littered with forum posts of hackers complaining about being FairFight banned. It seems fairfight tracks player action rather than simply detecting cheats and determines if what the player is doing is "humanly possible". I don't know much more about how it works than that but the hacker posts are pretty entertaining.  
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Fairfight works by monitoring player stats to see if they have a ridiculous KDR or getting a silly number of kills regularly at a high rate etc, doesn't it?
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Chronojam posted:I got AA Service Star 100 and it didn't even give me a dogtag or anything Update punkbuster. You never know!
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Chronojam posted:I got AA Service Star 100 and it didn't even give me a dogtag or anything You get 1 dogtag for doing god's work 
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Haha. I think if you counter-knife you get a kill with the knife skin that the other person is using. I have 2 kills with the carbon fibre and 1 with each the survival and scout, without having any of them unlocked.
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Man, I've revisited the MG4 the last couple of days, and that video posted previously is spot on. It just utterly wrecks mans. I'm only running with holo/stubby at the moment, since I don't want the auto fire penalties from comp/brake, and haven't unlocked hbar or flash hider yet. Seriously, just playing on infantry servers (dom/tdm), I was going 13-3, 19-6, etc. I've done that well from time to time with other guns (usually the MTAR on a more cramped map), but not as consistently as with this beast.
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MAVFLAM on the China Rising maps is just silly. You can control the entire loving map with just a handful of dudes with SRAWs or Javelins. It's NUTS.
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Gonkish posted:MAVFLAM on the China Rising maps is just silly. You can control the entire loving map with just a handful of dudes with SRAWs or Javelins. It's NUTS. Or an attack heli with laser guided missles. With the laser guide as the gunner you can kill any vehicle by yourself. I took out a mobile AA and tank because they were sitting right next to each other. I also took out an attack boat with 1 strafe. The things do a ton of damage.
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Guillermus posted:Today if you want to cheat without having to worry, you just pay a subscription and keep it up to date. But I still don't understand why people do that as routine. Probably for the same reasons us "honest" people use(d) the UCAV/SOFLAM glitches. To bath in the glorious waves of pubby tears. Only they are taking it to the next level.
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Taking advantage of glitches is completely different to cheating.
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mcbexx posted:Probably for the same reasons us "honest" people use(d) the UCAV/SOFLAM glitches. Most of the people willing to pay for cheats or to, back in the old days, J-Tag an Xbox are doing it to have inflated internet numbers. It is very important to these people to have larger numbers than other people to prove that they can spend more money to get banned from BF4 than other people.
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WastedJoker posted:Fairfight works by monitoring player stats to see if they have a ridiculous KDR or getting a silly number of kills regularly at a high rate etc, doesn't it? Yes, and from what I've read every FairFight ban is reviewed by humans to avoid the VAC/PB controversies. No idea how true that is, but it seems about right since it likely just flags things outside of statistical averages for review. Lazyfire posted:Most of the people willing to pay for cheats or to, back in the old days, J-Tag an Xbox are doing it to have inflated internet numbers. It is very important to these people to have larger numbers than other people to prove that they can spend more money to get banned from BF4 than other people. It's a control thing.
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krispykremessuck posted:Yes, and from what I've read every FairFight ban is reviewed by humans to avoid the VAC/PB controversies. No idea how true that is, but it seems about right since it likely just flags things outside of statistical averages for review. krispykremessuck posted:It's a control thing. I had a friend in college who would challenge people to Halo 2 games, but stipulate that it had to be on Xbox live. He then called his friend who was great at the game over, or me if that guy wasn't around, and had that one of us beat whoever he challenged. That's the feeling I get from a guy using cheats in online shooters, you don't want to be good at the game, but you want to make it look like you are.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:A no skill lock on weapon should never be a one hit kill. I forget how much skill it takes to fly an unkillable flying tank.
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WastedJoker posted:Fairfight works by monitoring player stats to see if they have a ridiculous KDR or getting a silly number of kills regularly at a high rate etc, doesn't it? Incorrect. It monitors how you move and shoot. It can tell if you're getting several snap headshots at 100 meters out within a second which would set off a flag for using an aimbot and/or no recoil cheat. If you're just being really amazing but not using a cheat, you'll be fine.
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BF3 almost, almost got me to understand the mentality of the average cheater for one very simple reason. I found that I really, really hated dying to a speck on the horizon 500 meters away. Dying isn't so bad; dying to an enemy you never even saw because of bloom effects, or dull graphics, or retarded-rear end 3D spotting lighting you up from half a world away... less so. I never went so far as actually cheating, but I was sorely tempted to find out if there was a hack that highlighted enemy soldiers so they didn't just blur into the background all the goddamn time. While headshotting you through a bush with the aid of floating doritos.
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Ilustforponydeath posted:I forget how much skill it takes to fly an unkillable flying tank. So your solution to an overpowered thing is to make something else even more overpowered? Maybe dota is a better game for you? There are ways to decrease somethings power without making everything else around it more powerful such as possibly decreasing it's power. See: The last patch.
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Just thought I'd post that I've been enjoying the game much more since switching to hardcore. Bind C to full map. Not as useful as the minimap obviously, and they should add a compass, but it helps quite a bit. It's a much prettier game in hardcore. Not nearly as many ugly HUD elements.
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SplitSoul posted:Any tips on getting past that awful first sniper rifle? I can't hit poo poo. I used to do pretty well with the M40 in BC2. The first rifle is fine with the right attachments and approach. 4x scope, canted iron sights and straight pull makes it a beast at medium range, headshots all day. It sucks for traditional long range sniping but low to medium range stuff is solid. If you have no attachments then stick to iron sights for awhile and go help the squad, kills will come. If you just want to unlock all of the sniper rifles or attachments quickly then find a no explosives locker server, use an XP booster and go hang outside with that setup. Its annoying but you'll get it done quickly.
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ChirreD posted:Do you also use "scope zeroing" ? That would require unlocking the range finder. I have six kills and an accuracy of 6.28% with the CS-LR4. 
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90% of your shots don't really need the zeroer unless you are going for ###420SICKH3ADSH0TZ##. It's mainly useful over 500M. prone and bipod also helps a ton. also the ACE-23 is cheating. That with the angled grip is a death laser.
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Seriously, find a sniper only server and use 3.4x and a laser sight, it's really really easy because you get to skip the hard part of fighting against non sniper weapons and skip straight to the terrible pubbies. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/423765706858243776/351592419/ http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/423759974339389120/351592419/ Those are the only reports I have on my feed (apparently you can't open them from view all), but seriously, it's easy and guaranteed to be much more enjoyable than sitting on a hill going for headshots. You just find a good area and plonk a tugs down and kill anyone who approaches it. underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jan 17, 2014 |
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Backhand posted:BF3 almost, almost got me to understand the mentality of the average cheater for one very simple reason. I found that I really, really hated dying to a speck on the horizon 500 meters away. Dying isn't so bad; dying to an enemy you never even saw because of bloom effects, or dull graphics, or retarded-rear end 3D spotting lighting you up from half a world away... less so. I never went so far as actually cheating, but I was sorely tempted to find out if there was a hack that highlighted enemy soldiers so they didn't just blur into the background all the goddamn time. While headshotting you through a bush with the aid of floating doritos. The only time I ever cheated in a game was back when Counter-Strike was a big deal but still on WON rather than Steam. I was in like high school so I was dumb, and this was back when the worst thing that could happen if you got caught was getting banned from an individual server. I'd always been an okay player, but not great, and I was getting tired of the game after having played it for a really long time. For me, it was mostly about the variety of playing the game in different ways ("ok I'll turn on wallhacks but not aimbot and only use pistols this game") rather than feeling good about winning or whatever.
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