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So, Obama is conning/entraping the poo poo out of corrupt politicians who are involved in ABSCAM? 
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Okay, that one just made me feel a lump in my throat for a moment.
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Jan 19, 2014 14:48
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Somebody should send this to Gorrell. It's what a cartoon of his would look like if he actually drew every panel (and had good opinions), right down to the sillyface red-text "twist" ending. I can't help but think of this one as being addressed directly to him.
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Jan 19, 2014 16:28
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The best thing about this is if Ted Rall actually saw this his ego wouldn't let him realize he's being insulted. His reaction would just be "Yep, one of my many adoring fans made this and the guy's got a good point, Pro-Hitlers and anti-Hitlers were pretty much the same, eat poo poo fascists!"
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People on The Onion's Facebook page are having trouble understanding the greatness of Thorsberg Bronze-Quill Award winning cartoonist Stan Kelly. https://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/posts/10103740906590069 quote:Oh my. Say it isn't so. The Onion going the way of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck & Co.? quote:So ... someone at The Onion doesn't understand climate change? quote:Who is this cartoonist blowing for his job? All of his cartoons are stupid. quote:Maybe the weakest most ignorant political cartoon, evah! quote:This isn't comedy or even satire it's outright political commentary.
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Mt. ORourke posted:These are awesome and you should post more if you have them Here are few more Prohias editorial cartoons I found:    "Comrade Nikita, here is a so called "Castro" asking if you fulfilled your promise and placed his statue next to Lenin in the Red Square." (thanks, ElMaligno!) Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Jan 19, 2014 16:49
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dsriggs posted:People on The Onion's Facebook page are having trouble understanding the greatness of Thorsberg Bronze-Quill Award winning cartoonist Stan Kelly. quote:I hear this sort of ignorance all the time. Typically from people who didn't actually watch "An Inconvenient Truth." 
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"Comrade Nikita, here is a so called "Castro" asking if you fulfilled your promise and placed his statue next to Lenin in the Red Square."
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For those new to the thread, I should mention the Onion's short-lived "Behind the Pen" series that talks about the cartoon and the process of creating it. What makes it good is that Kelly talks about the cartoon, not Ward Sutton, so you have a grumpy old man complaining about his editor or mother while trying to talk up very simple jokes or tricks as very technical parts of the craft. Sadly, it only lasted a few months before they stopped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_aDIY8OJog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVtbkQMwJS4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGVrd1ih6cs There's a few more than this, but those are among the best.
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Jan 19, 2014 17:03
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Does anyone know if that's Sutton voicing Kelly or someone else?
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Mister Beeg posted:Here are few more Prohias editorial cartoons I found: If anyone bought the one massive Spy vs Spy collection that came out years ago, it has a whole bunch of these and more. Although that might be what your source is! This one is probably the one that I remember the strongest. It's not particularly amazing, but the quote really stuck with me for whatever reason. 
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You know, I--and I'm sure a lot of other posters in this thread--disagree with the message of Prohias' cartoons, but his artistic talent, comedic talent, wittiness, and the way he synthesizes all of those things to develop his message as effectively as possible is more than respectable. To me, the best thing is that unlike other good art/bad opinions cartoonists--particularly Allie--he doesn't have to lie or be willfully dense to get his point across. Truly one of the greats
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JaggerMcDagger posted:If anyone bought the one massive Spy vs Spy collection that came out years ago, it has a whole bunch of these and more. Although that might be what your source is! "Tovarich" came from the book, but the others are from other sources. Here are the others from that book:      
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"Because the US controlled dictator will kidnap and torture me to death."
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Or, alternatively, "Because your OSS/CIA-backed death squads enjoy raping and killing people who have the slightest Soviet sympathies."
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Mister Beeg posted:
Also, don't miss the sacks of Cuban sugar ("Azúcar Cubana") and bars of Cuban currency ("Divisa Cubana") next to Khrushchev's desk, making some rather obvious implications about the USSR's motives.
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Gonzo McFee posted:"Because the US controlled dictator will kidnap and torture me to death." I think Prohias would have been OK with that... Anyway, I found a site with a HUGE collection of Prohias editorial cartoons. I'll post few at a time. Many are pantomime, but there are also quite a few with Spanish captions. These ran 1960-61 in El Avance Criollo, a Spanish language paper from Miami, Florida.      Reading these cartoons gives "Spy vs. Spy" an entirely new meaning. Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Vogon Poet posted:
This needs more recognition. Fantastic.
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Vogon Poet posted:
I actually thought the original version of this was less about "The truth is in the middle" and more about "I hate the both of you and will thus commence trolling you." 
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Jan 19, 2014 18:35
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Ted Rall doesn't fit into your pathetic sheeple binaries! His genius and moral self-possession allow him to see that sometimes...murder is justified!!
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Randler posted:I actually thought the original version of this was less about "The truth is in the middle" and more about "I hate the both of you and will thus commence trolling you." It's Rall, so sure, there is an element of that, but he has literally said that he thinks abortion is murder but should still be legal. If that's not "truth is in the middle" I don't know what is.
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Vogon Poet posted:It's Rall, so sure, there is an element of that, but he has literally said that he thinks abortion is murder but should still be legal. If that's not "truth is in the middle" I don't know what is. And it's not that he thinks that but that he thinks it for no good reason other than "look how much better, smarter, and cooler I am than the rest of you." He's picked his position just to stick it to both sides.
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I'd just like to congratulate Bruce Tinsley for not using hilarious racial stereotypes in a comic containing both a muslim and a jew. Also, gently caress you, Bruce Tinsley. achillesforever6 posted:
If we had a complete deregulation, there would be nowhere for the toxic waste to spill out. ABC.
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Wow, am I crazy, or does Castro look like a giant stereotypical Jew? Of his most defining features, "huge nose" is not one I'd describe Castro with. Or maybe I'm just confusing that person in the cartoons with Castro.
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quote:"A Defense of Abortion" has an argument that acknowledges the fetuses right to life but still says abortion is morally permissible. It's the one about waking up with the violinist stuck to your body, if you've heard of it. However, Chantilly Say posted:And it's not that he thinks that but that he thinks it for no good reason other than "look how much better, smarter, and cooler I am than the rest of you." He's picked his position just to stick it to both sides. Edit: I had put in the fake cartoon before Horon fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Vogon Poet posted:It's Rall, so sure, there is an element of that, but he has literally said that he thinks abortion is murder but should still be legal. If that's not "truth is in the middle" I don't know what is. Where has he said abortion is murder, though? Maybe it's a question of semantics, but I don't think "A fetus is alive." (this cartoon) is the same thing as "Abortion is murder." Also, the fact that Rall's position arguably lives in a place equidistant to the pro-life and the pro-choice positions does not make it necessarily unsound. (And technically "Fetus is alife" and "Woman have the right to an abortion" are not even opposite to each other, making the "Truth in the middle argument" not applicable.)
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Rorus Raz posted:Wow, am I crazy, or does Castro look like a giant stereotypical Jew? Of his most defining features, "huge nose" is not one I'd describe Castro with. He's supposed to be Castro. Not sure why Prohias drew him with such a big nose.
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Randler posted:Where has he said abortion is murder, though? Maybe it's a question of semantics, but I don't think "A fetus is alive." (this cartoon) is the same thing as "Abortion is murder." Also, the fact that Rall's position arguably lives in a place equidistant to the pro-life and the pro-choice positions does not make it necessarily unsound. (And technically "Fetus is alife" and "Woman have the right to an abortion" are not even opposite to each other, making the "Truth in the middle argument" not applicable.) Ted Rall posted:If you believe (as I do) that life begins at conception, then the first cellular division after a sperm fertilizes the ovum represents human life every bit as much as you and me. The standard feminist claim that a baby isn’t alive until it’s “viable” outside the womb is ridiculous. I know 25-year-olds who aren’t fully viable. Basically never give Rall the benefit of the doubt.
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ThirdPartyView posted:
Don't give it too much thought. Payne is just ripping off a joke he heard on Jay Leno.
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Randler posted:Where has he said abortion is murder, though? Maybe it's a question of semantics, but I don't think "A fetus is alive." (this cartoon) is the same thing as "Abortion is murder." Also, the fact that Rall's position arguably lives in a place equidistant to the pro-life and the pro-choice positions does not make it necessarily unsound. (And technically "Fetus is alife" and "Woman have the right to an abortion" are not even opposite to each other, making the "Truth in the middle argument" not applicable.) Xylo already beat me to pointing this out, but remember; Rall is a contrarian rear end in a top hat. Of course he loving said abortion is murder, but fetuses should be murdered. That's not him saying the truth is in the middle, that's him saying he wants both sides of the abortion argument to come together in hating him. He wants to piss off as many people as possible because that'll make them remember Ted Rall has lovely opinions, and any time you think of Ted Rall, his dick grows a little more erect.
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That mannequin looks familiar.  Aha.
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This would have been  without the speech bubble and the label. Hmm, how else could we visually illustrate that he is not just homeless but also a veteran? There should be some kind of DHS poster on the wall, too.
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Rorus Raz posted:Wow, am I crazy, or does Castro look like a giant stereotypical Jew? Of his most defining features, "huge nose" is not one I'd describe Castro with. A large nose is actually pretty typical of Fidel Castro caricatures. It's unfortunate, but with a beard, hat and prominent nose, depictions are going to line up with the Judaic stereotype. It's unlikely that Prohias has any antisemitic leanings- at least I've not detected them in his work.
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wrap it up, public schoolailures homeschooling is better  
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Mighty Stalker posted:wrap it up, public schoolailures This is magical.
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Mighty Stalker posted:wrap it up, public schoolailures I will never get over that homunculus child. Fourth panel is killing me.
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Mighty Stalker posted:wrap it up, public schoolailures Out of the park.
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Discendo Vox posted:A large nose is actually pretty typical of Fidel Castro caricatures. It's unfortunate, but with a beard, hat and prominent nose, depictions are going to line up with the Judaic stereotype. It's unlikely that Prohias has any antisemitic leanings- at least I've not detected them in his work. Dude, you've seen Spy vs Spy. That's actually a tiny nose.
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