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extra stout posted:edit I didn't know it until I read your post. Googling around a bit pointed to a book from 1995 called Card Sharks by Pete Williams. The description of it reads, "How Upper Deck turned a child's hobby into a high-stakes, billion-dollar business." Apparently Richard McWilliams, the now dead CEO of Upper Deck, doesn't come out looking very good in it. The few reviews at Amazon for the book are good. Anyone here read it?
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Anton Chigurh posted:I didn't know it until I read your post. Googling around a bit pointed to a book from 1995 called Card Sharks by Pete Williams. The description of it reads, "How Upper Deck turned a child's hobby into a high-stakes, billion-dollar business." I read it, it's a really good book. I think it cost me like $6 shipped, definitely worth picking up.
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Anton Chigurh posted:I didn't know it until I read your post. Googling around a bit pointed to a book from 1995 called Card Sharks by Pete Williams. The description of it reads, "How Upper Deck turned a child's hobby into a high-stakes, billion-dollar business." I read it a few years back. It's definitely worth the read to someone interested in the hobby.
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I think McWilliams was the guy who got caught shredding counterfeit Yu-Gi-Oh cards in his office, which was part of the lawsuit by the Japanese company that makes them.
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Sweet mail day, did a TTM for Jim Snyder because I just love the portrait of him on this card. Sent 1 card and a short note, got back 4 signed cards. Dudes a beast. 
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I wanted to put together something that would bridge baseball from it's early days to the modern era and not cost a pile. (for me) and I opt'd to go after a card of every player that hit four home runs in a game. I have most of them (Still need a Bobby Lowe and a Lou Gehrig) but this is one of my faves. I started collecting in 1987 and I got this at one of the rare card shows that show'd up in my hometown (I annoyed the poo poo out of my dad to go). I paid ten bucks. I was pretty sure it was mint and I was going to be very wealthy. I got it graded for giggles even in its weak condition if only because I spent a lot of time staring at it as a kid. 
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On a whim, I picked up 2 packs of MLB Chipz. These are pretty fun - but are they going to make another series past this year?
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Red posted:On a whim, I picked up 2 packs of MLB Chipz. These are pretty fun - but are they going to make another series past this year? Assuming you mean a 2014 release, Yes they are.
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theacox posted:Assuming you mean a 2014 release, Yes they are. Awesome - I have one random George Brett Topps "coin" from '87. I always thought the concept of a baseball
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If anyone wants to open the first product of 2014 as soon as possible, Target and Wal-Mart have started to sell 2014 Topps Series 1 packs and blasters.
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Apparently 2014 Series 1 retail is live some places, according to some forums and ebay auctions. Also Panini Elite Extra Edition baseball is available in retail form somewhere? Can anyone confirm? This is news to me.
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theacox posted:Apparently 2014 Series 1 retail is live some places, according to some forums and ebay auctions. Also Panini Elite Extra Edition baseball is available in retail form somewhere? Can anyone confirm? This is news to me. I saw EEE at Target today. Series 1 should be coming out tomorrow here.
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Hey guys. Just wanted to point out this horseshit ebay seller.. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=301073592810&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item46196271ea&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_ssn=tobaccoroadcards&_sop=3 Didn't want to have anyone that wasn't on top of their game getting scammed....
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theacox posted:Hey guys. Just wanted to point out this horseshit ebay seller.. I don't get it. What's the scam, homemade grading?
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AsInHowe posted:I don't get it. What's the scam, homemade grading? The vast majority of listings are absolute bullshit. There is no 1918 wheat penny Babe Ruth rookie, much less a 1919 wheat penny Babe Ruth rookie. None of the jersey cards have any branding on them. And though I've been out of the card collecting business for some time, I've never heard of a printing plate being up for sale. Wow. The wheat penny listings go on and on and people are falling for them. Oh, this is good. An unbranded Michael Jordan baseball rookie. With a sketchy 1986 Topps design. EDIT: And a ripoff of 1986 Donruss, too.. RC and Moon Pie fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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Haha a Lou Gehrig jersey card, yeah right. From what, the fake one on Pawn Stars?
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AsInHowe posted:I don't get it. What's the scam, homemade grading? I haven't looked at every item he has for sale, but every one I've taken the time to look at seems to have something wrong with it. edit: My new favorite example. theacox fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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I've got a feeling Puig is going to be forged a lot since his signature is so simplistic and deliberate, it looks like a small child's first cursive written name.
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Those Gehrig and Mantle jersey 'cards' usually sell for like $20. They were these oversized unbranded cards you used to be able to get 2 free per 20 pack box. I'm going to start marking every card I put on Ebay $500, god drat.
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Jan 26, 2014 16:35
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Jan 26, 2014 21:53
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God, what a shyster. As if putting a card in a holder with a sticker that says "Grade 10" or "Certified Authentic" on it makes it legitimate. Where is he even getting some of those cards like the Michael Jordans? Printing them himself?
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Jan 26, 2014 22:42
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From the Dmitri Young collection, I assume. (At least they're legit cards, I guess.)
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Are the "Lou Gehrig" and "Mickey Mantle" cards pasted over something? The jersey pieces are pretty clearly from modern era fabric.
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Jan 26, 2014 23:49
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God, that guy really pisses me off. I wish there were a way non-sellers could report him, but I don't think he's technically breaking any rules. Seems he covers his bases with the item descriptions.
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The Machinima Man posted:God, that guy really pisses me off. I wish there were a way non-sellers could report him, but I don't think he's technically breaking any rules. Seems he covers his bases with the item descriptions. I guess you could try to track down the copyright holder of the images he is using and see if they might want to start levying fees for non-licensed use of their material.
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I have no idea how the licensing works or who makes the best baseball jerseys, any tips? I'd like the least expensive but genuine and genuine looking Mantle or Gehrig jersey that I can find. Maybe one of the old away game jerseys that looked more like a grey cotton shirt than a modern jersey. Any tips on where to buy, how to avoid fakes, how they fit and what to pay would be appreciated.
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Well, for absolute top-of-the-line stuff Mitchell and Ness has period-perfect jerseys like that for $250. The problem with retired players is they are harder and more expensive to license. Another common problem you run into with Yankees jerseys is companies putting names on them.
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So I decided after 10 years of being a member of eBay I would try selling something for once. Why would I expect that to go smoothly? I would love to get some feedback on how I handled this. So I sold my 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa Blue Refractor Auto 76/150. I was selling at $274.99, the same sold price of the last 2 sales on this card ungraded. I accepted the best offer price of $250. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191064902748 Buyer: I received this card in the mail today and it is by far in the worst shape of any card that I have received on eBay. I suppose I should have asked questions before bidding, but your lack of explanation of condition of the card was incomprehensible. Me: I'm sorry you feel that way. Unless it was stomped on during shipping, I don't understand at all what your complaint could be. The card is almost flawless. The pictures I posted prove that. It's in better shape than 90% of the cards I've bought on ebay. I didn't put anything about the condition of the card because the photos speak for themselves. I packaged it better than anything I've ever received myself. I just can't understand what you were expecting. If it was a graded 10 card it would've been a much higher price. Plus I sold it to you for $25 less than the last 2 sold for and gave free shipping. Buyer: Imperfections on refractors are very easy to hide in pictures by changing the angle. I bought another blue Correa last week that is currently at BGS. This card has vertical lines that happen in production, a dimple in the bottom left corner and some kind of dent/ding/something that somewhat appears evident in your pictures. I have bought hundreds of cards on eBay and won hundreds in razzes and this is easily the worst condition of any card received. I received a Jay Bruce with a bent corner in better condition than this. Someone shipped me a purple /10 chrome in a top loader with no sleeve and it arrived in better shape. The condition of this card is a shame and you should have disclosed. You didn't seem to want to make it right from your first reply, so thanks for the card. Me: There is no change in angle...it was done on a scanner...which lays completely flat and picks up pretty much everything....that's why I used a scanner, so that no detail was left out of the picture. I think your expectations are off base and I am sorry your not happy with the purchase, but I did not misrepresent this card in any way. So...I guess my first sale on eBay will also be my last. This is exactly the kind of crap that was keeping me from even trying to sell on there.
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psychosockmonkee posted:So I decided after 10 years of being a member of eBay I would try selling something for once. Why would I expect that to go smoothly? I would love to get some feedback on how I handled this. Absolutely offer to refund him and have him send the card back to you. If he won't return the card, it's a huge red flag, especially if he asks for a partial refund. You risk that he is a super rear end in a top hat and will damage the card just to be a douche, but you are in the position right now to get your card back and sell it again. At this point, as an ebay seller, you can easily be hosed. It's really a giant problem with cards on ebay right now.
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psychosockmonkee posted:So I decided after 10 years of being a member of eBay I would try selling something for once. Why would I expect that to go smoothly? I would love to get some feedback on how I handled this. First off, you should demand scans from him of the card. Since the card is serial numbered, it would be very easy to see if there is any damage. Second, if he complains in any way towards eBay, or demands his money back plus the card or something, eBay might overrule his complaints and put him on a watchlist. I've seen lots of buyers try to bully inexperienced sellers around like this.
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AsInHowe posted:demands his money back plus the card or something Don't do this. edit: In case you aren't aware, ebay is not on your side as a seller any more. That's why I gave you the above advise.
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theacox posted:Don't do this. A partial refund? I had a guy complain that something was damaged irreparably, and wanted his money back without sending the card back. eBay ended up banning the guy. Also, if the buyer is demanding a refund, make sure you receive the card before you send him the refund. He could send you a bubblemailer and an empty toploader or something.
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AsInHowe posted:A partial refund? I had a guy complain that something was damaged irreparably, and wanted his money back without sending the card back. eBay ended up banning the guy. Partial refund is a common ebay scam on high end cards. edit: AsInHowe, I think we're on the same page here.
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theacox posted:Don't do this.
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psycosockmonkee please let us know what happens with this as I am genuinely curious as to what happens with all shady ebay card things.
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I appreciate the input and I will keep you guys up to date if anything changes. He replied to me one additional time and at this point, however unwise it may seem, I'm going to just ignore him. He has made no indication that he will dispute this sale through eBay, and I am so annoyed at this point that I don't want to deal with him any further. Stupid and stubborn as it may be, I can go another 10 years without selling on eBay.
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psychosockmonkee posted:I received a Jay Bruce with a bent corner in better condition than this. Someone shipped me a purple /10 chrome in a top loader with no sleeve and it arrived in better shape. It sucks when people suck, but in your honor the next time I get a poorly made hoagie I'm going to quote this verbatim to the kid at the shop who sold it to me.
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It's not about baseball cards, it's about magic cards, but I have a story to tell about how eBay handles high end cards and condition disputes. I was the buyer in this case, and I just spent $500 on a card that turned out to be counterfeit. Upon receipt I sent the following message to the sender:quote:Dear wagatagaboo713, and then immediately opened a dispute because this auction was obviously a scam. They ask for additional information on these types of claims, so here is the giant wall of text I provided them (Note SA is changing all the Imageshack links to something else for some reason, I'm not going to take the time to fix this. If you look at the pictures, the fake card was literally printed with an inkjet and pasted on a real card (they used a fake picture for the auction). They didn't make any attempt to hide the fact it was a sticker. quote:(Note, all images linked are 600dpi, Imageshack's zoom-in/fullsize I also sent a 2nd e-mail where I found the source of the scan they used in the auction. My claim was denied! I immediately called eBay about this, and they started discussing about how their "does not match the description" claim process works. I was fairly confused, and we both quickly realized that they completely missed the word "counterfeit" in both those e-mails and were treating this as your standard "does not match the description" claim. When eBay botches the claims process this badly you can then enter into a super-special claims dispute process that is basically between eBay and you personally -- since the seller officially won the dispute he's out of the picture. To make a long story short, I had to have a dealer send in a statement corroborating that the item was fake; and then wait for eBay's internal dispute process to process the special claim. It took a long time to get my money back. The thing I'm most pissed off about this though is the guy who sent me the fake card, for all intents and purposes, got away with it. EDIT (tl;dr): If you list an item with where the scan shows this but get a card that looks like this; unless the item is literally counterfeit there is a good chance eBay will determine that the two items are similar enough in condition to deny your claim. Chuu fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 17, 2014 |
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psychosockmonkee posted:So I decided after 10 years of being a member of eBay I would try selling something for once. Why would I expect that to go smoothly? I would love to get some feedback on how I handled this. This kind of thing has been happening more and more to me on ebay lately. I've had 4 cases in the last month where the buyer bought a card on a best offer, it shipped quickly, and upon reciept they insisted the card was "not as described". I simply asked for proof of the damages via a scan, and told them I would gladly issue a refund when the proof is shown and the card has been returned to me. None of the 4 complied, and 2 of them got my money AND the card. The problem is that ebay is SO tilted towards the buyer anymore that it allows for more scams than ever. In an effort to protect the buyer, ebay has opened the door to a new wave of scam artists - as a seller, I can't even leave negative or neutral feedback for a buyer, even in cases where they don't pay! Buyers can use feedback or "opening a case" as extortion to get a lower price or a free card. 5 years ago I would have told you to not let this one bad experience influence you, but with the way ebay has changed the system it probably SHOULD encourage you to stay away.
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