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MadBimber posted:No loving way. I think MGR is required material for any MG fan.
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MadBimber posted:No loving way. It's a $30 game now on Steam and on consoles and both DLC campaigns are free. Why haven't you gotten it yet?
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Jan 28, 2014 12:17
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If the goofiness and tongue-in-cheek of Metal Gear is something that appeals to you, then get the game right away. "Don't gently caress with this senator!" is a drop in the ocean of absurdity that is Metal Gear Rising. Even if you don't usually like action-heavy high-speed brawlers it's still a fantastic game; it's one of my least favorite genres but I got hooked almost right away, the combat is just so goddamn satisfying when you get the hang of it.
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Jan 28, 2014 12:24
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Or if you like the grizzled soldier trying to understand his place in the world stories of MGS1 and 4 the story will also appeal to you I think. It ain't the Godfather but it's definitely smarter then most games.
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Jan 28, 2014 12:26
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ChaosArgate posted:It's a $30 game now on Steam and on consoles and both DLC campaigns are free. Why haven't you gotten it yet? Major INTERSpess posted:http://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/428094216992874496
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Jan 28, 2014 12:41
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Revengeance handles a bunch of the serious/ridiculous Metal Gear stuff better than any Metal Gear game and all that without 30 minute cutscenes and in a game about a faux-ninja cyborg slicing dudes, brains and a dog shaped robot buddy. Although that last part would fit in any MG game I guess.
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Jan 28, 2014 12:46
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Strange Quark posted:The Jamais Vu mission probably isn't going to be canon, but I'd love to see some interaction between Raiden and the MGSV cast. I kind of want to see what they could do if they completely ignored the timeline just for kicks. 
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Butt Ghost posted:This is why we need a Metal Gear fighting game. Look how well that turned out for Castlevania.  Seriously though, I always figured Capcom vs Konami would be awesome. Konami's roster would be half MGS half Castlevania, but maybe we could get some fun guys like Goemon or Random Hajile.
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Jan 29, 2014 00:08
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They'd probably also throw in a Harry Mason or Jehuty. Konami acquired Hudson's properties too, so it'd be likely we'd see Bomberman and Master Higgens in there. (But really, a Metal Gear fighting game is my dream game. To steal some ideas from the Smash thread, imagine Young Ocelot vs MGSV Ocelot vs MGS1 Ocelot vs Liquid Ocelot. They could have a trick off! Or Sam, with custom taunts for every character!) Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Jan 29, 2014 00:46
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AI skull Colonel should be a character.
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Ausmund posted:AI skull Colonel should be a character. He can float around the screen and shoot words out of his mouth to attack enemies
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Jan 29, 2014 01:01
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Whenever I see someone complain about these games being insane, I ask if they'd keep their peace watching the same thing in an anime. MGS is anime without the art style.
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Jan 29, 2014 01:04
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I watched the GZ trailer and it's slick as hell, especially the transition into gameplay. Will we see similar graphical quality on the PS3/360, or even on the PS4?
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Jan 29, 2014 01:25
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Butt Ghost posted:They'd probably also through in a Harry Mason or Jehuty. Konami acquired Hudson's properties too, so it'd be likely we'd see Bomberman and Master Higgens in there. This definitely needs a spectacular Sam vs Vamp battle!
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Jan 29, 2014 01:27
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NikkolasKing posted:These kinds of fans are the ones who spent years trying to figure out what color Snake's hair is. These are the kind of fans that didn't realize there are 3 other games where Snake's hair isn't blond and he has no reason to think he'll be confused with Liquid? 4 if you count MGS2.
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Jan 29, 2014 01:28
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Imagine all the crazy grunting, yelling, and screaming that would come from a MGS fighting game. 
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Detective No. 27 posted:Imagine all the crazy grunting, yelling, and screaming that would come from a MGS fighting game. Oh God, every time someone dies their name is screamed by one of their allies.
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Jan 29, 2014 01:55
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Psycho Mantis has weak attack power, but don't worry, this is balanced with his ability to gently caress with the other players.
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Butt Ghost posted:Psycho Mantis has weak attack power, but don't worry, this is balanced with his ability to gently caress with the other players. Quick, controller swap!
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Jan 29, 2014 02:18
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Important leaked dialogue from MGSV. Not spoilery, though.
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There was a shark boss fight originally planned for MGS 2?  The harrier fight is one of my favourite voice acting bits in the series. David Hayter and John Cygan trying to out-yell each other is great. I'm suprised that there are fans that really dislike MGS 2. It has story telling problems, yes, and it's not as good as MGS 3, but it's still aged pretty well, and has a lot to recommend about it. I finished MGR - it's a shame Armstrong doesn't have more screen time. Every line of dialogue he has is great. I'm glad the DLC is free, since the Bladewolf DLC is so short that I would have felt ripped off paying for it.
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OldMemes posted:There was a shark boss fight originally planned for MGS 2? I played through all of the games in order recently and the one I had played the least beforehand, was MGS2. I didn't have any idea what to expect, but I knew people hated it. GOD drat IS IT AN AWESOME GAME. MGS2 is full on crazycakes and I love it. It takes a while to start ramping up the crazy but when it does, it DELIVERS bigtime.
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trash lord posted:Important leaked dialogue from MGSV. Not spoilery, though. I so hope this is in the main game and not a secret theater/blooper reel(like MGS3) or something..
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Detective No. 27 posted:Look how well that turned out for Castlevania. I just noticed that Random Hajile is literally just Sting from David Lynch's Dune.  
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Improbable Lobster posted:I just noticed that Random Hajile is literally just Sting from David Lynch's Dune. Kojima is a noted movie buff. Take a look at the Snatchers (Terminator) or Snake as he looks on the cover of Metal Gear for NES/MSX (Michael Biehn promo shot for Terminator. Or the main characters of Policenauts. They are literally anime versions of Riggs and Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon.
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"Game Designer: 70% of my body is made of movies." Hideo's twitter profile, His Peace Walker avatar is something very similar, like "70% of me is movies and 30% is whatever you want to do with."
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OldMemes posted:The harrier fight is one of my favourite voice acting bits in the series. David Hayter and John Cygan trying to out-yell each other is great. One of my favorite boss quotes in the series is Solidus' "I'll let you go out in STYLE!" Butt Ghost posted:(But really, a Metal Gear fighting game is my dream game. To steal some ideas from the Smash thread, imagine Young Ocelot vs MGSV Ocelot vs MGS1 Ocelot vs Liquid Ocelot. They could have a trick off! Or Sam, with custom taunts for every character!) I kinda wanna see MGS2 Raiden vs. MGS4 Raiden vs. MGR Raiden now. As for potential MGS Fighting Games, Otacon could maybe summon the Mark II to fight for him? His Super Move is falling in love with the opponent as this is guaranteed instant death.
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Snake is great in Smash Bros Brawl, and Raiden is one of the best characters in PlayStation All-Stars, so it'd be great to see them in more fighting games. I think there was even a Smash Bros clone on the PS2 which had Snake, Bomberman, and Optimus Prime.
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randombattle posted:Or if you like the grizzled soldier trying to understand his place in the world stories of MGS1 and 4 the story will also appeal to you I think. It ain't the Godfather but it's definitely smarter then most games. I felt they dropped that in 4. Snake seemed to just stop caring and felt like he regressed to where he was pre-MGS, which was a bummer because, like you said, his entire arc was him finding purpose and finally living his life.
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grancheater posted:These are the kind of fans that didn't realize there are 3 other games where Snake's hair isn't blond and he has no reason to think he'll be confused with Liquid? 4 if you count MGS2. I swear there's a thing which comes up about how Liquid bleaches his hair to avoid confusion between him and Solid, as well. Like, both guys realize they need to differentiate from the other, but they choose totally different Hair Mods to do it with.
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Jimbot posted:I felt they dropped that in 4. Snake seemed to just stop caring and felt like he regressed to where he was pre-MGS, which was a bummer because, like you said, his entire arc was him finding purpose and finally living his life. Well, to be fair, that's sort of a carry-over from MGS2. MGS1 was about him finding life beyond the mission; MGS2 undid that by making him part of the anti-Metal Gear organization.
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I disagree. The most important words in MGS1 are "we're not tools of the government, or anyone else. Fighting was the only thing, the only thing I was good at. But at least I always fought for what I believed in." The thing about MGS1 Snake is he believed and fought for nothing. He fought just to fight. Liquid points this out when he asks him why he came there and continued on even as he was constantly betrayed and misused by his superiors. Snake is born-and-bred warrior and a part of him can never leave the battlefield. MGS1 is largely about him coming to terms with this side of himself. MGS2 is about how he found that purpose in his life; a positive and noble way to channel that need for combat. He now fights for a future, a world where people can live without fear o nuclear holocaust. To be frank, MGS2 Solid Snake is the healthiest version of the character. he's stable, articulate and is doing what he believes is right. MGS4 Snake is just following orders and waiting to die, much like he was at the start of 1.
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NikkolasKing posted:MGS4 Snake is just following orders and waiting to die, much like he was at the start of 1. I don't know about this part, I agree with the rest but I felt that Old Snake is just really... tired. He is waiting to die but the only thing stopping him is that he really doesn't know what's going on exactly, and then poo poo starts to hit the fan again and he has to push himself to do it without dying, because nobody else can so he can't afford himself that luxury. The after credit bit was just about him being told that he doesn't have to die to relax, to live life outside of battle.
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I really try to hate the MGS4 ending, but seeing Big Boss CQC Snake into a hug almost brings a tear to my eye. MAN DRAMA
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Butt Ghost posted:I really try to hate the MGS4 ending, but seeing Big Boss CQC Snake into a hug almost brings a tear to my eye. Same here but the music plays a huge part. Metal Gear Solid 4 had an amazing soundtrack overall.
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NikkolasKing posted:I disagree. The most important words in MGS1 are "we're not tools of the government, or anyone else. Fighting was the only thing, the only thing I was good at. But at least I always fought for what I believed in." But Gray Fox's monologue was meant to show how fundamentally hollow his life had been, how he'd tried to make the best of a bad situation. That's a fundamental aspect of the ending: Snake walks away from it all, something Fox couldn't do. The part where he tells Meryl his real name was him casting off his old life, and moving on; it's fundamentally the same as those '80's action movies where the retired guy comes back because, "he's the only one who can save us," and walks away at the end. The point is: it's over, he's done, he's moving on. I do agree that MGS2 Snake is definitely the healthiest by a wide margin, but my point was that it was still a backslide from where his character was at the end of MGS1.
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NikkolasKing posted:MGS2 is about how he found that purpose in his life; a positive and noble way to channel that need for combat. He now fights for a future, a world where people can live without fear o nuclear holocaust. To be frank, MGS2 Solid Snake is the healthiest version of the character. he's stable, articulate and is doing what he believes is right. quote:MGS4 Snake is just following orders Ausmund fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Same here but the music plays a huge part. Metal Gear Solid 4 had an amazing soundtrack overall. Every metal gear game had an amazing soundtrack*
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Jimbot posted:I felt they dropped that in 4. Snake seemed to just stop caring and felt like he regressed to where he was pre-MGS, which was a bummer because, like you said, his entire arc was him finding purpose and finally living his life. The whole point to the MGS4 ending carries over from the ending to MGS, where Snake does what Big Boss failed to do: Fight for much more than himself. Big Boss even thinks Solid Snake would have been strong enough to resist killing The Boss. Pretty much big chunks of the MGS4 story is Solid Snake and Otacon working to find ways where they can bring down the Patriots without severing key infrastructure. blackguy32 fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Ausmund posted:MGS4's world is partially a consequence of his actions in 2. In what way? Are you talking about the war economy? That seems to be Raiden's fault. With or without Snake, he would have put in a perfect performance in the S3 Plan and doomed everyone else. That's another problem I have with MGS4 to be honest. I have no idea why The Patriots' goal of digital control and manipulating every facet of human life was changed to "let's make a bunch of wars." quote:Snake is also in an unbelievably unwin-able situation. No matter what he does, he's screwed. May as well clean up what mess he can with whatever time he has left. Those are fair points. Butt Ghost posted:I really try to hate the MGS4 ending, but seeing Big Boss CQC Snake into a hug almost brings a tear to my eye. CQC Hug vs. the Handshake Hug The muic helped a lot there too. Plus it was touching to see Snake offering some comfort to Otacon. It's not something you expect from him ya know. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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