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Bathtub Cheese posted:I'm really only looking forward to the inevitable stream of howlers that come from DevChat. They can't even get their poo poo together well enough to release a DLC on PC and PS4 that already exists on Xbone platform for "player appreciation" month. Apparently what happened is that EA cracked the whip over development so it came out to compete with COD and why it was completely broken. By law they now have to give their employees time off because sweden is 50 years ahead of every one else on this stuff.
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It is a glitch guys, but it's an hilarious one and I'm gonna abuse it til DICE fixes it, just like the M26 DART in BF3. If we make the playerbase scream about it they might even fix it faster than 3 months!
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TheRationalRedditor posted:It's not. The MG4 is a great LMG. The M240B is a great LMG. If you're not using those when in the LMG category, you could be doing much, much better. Depends on the situation. I almost exclusively play support, and I think you guys are vastly underestimating it. You can see from my usage I know all about the other MGs, but I still like the RPK-74. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Duck_King/weapons/175510792/pc/ In the right hands it is a good gun.
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Sandweed posted:It is a glitch guys, but it's an hilarious one and I'm gonna abuse it til DICE fixes it, just like the M26 DART in BF3. It seems that even if your hyper-focused MAVFLAM squad completely shuts down the enemy's ability to use vehicles, your team will still win or lose based on their propensity to hold points in general. The team that is currently winning will continue to win even if deprived of armor and choppers. Duck_King posted:Depends on the situation. I almost exclusively play support, and I think you guys are vastly underestimating it. You can see from my usage I know all about the other MGs, but I still like the RPK-74. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Duck_King/weapons/175510792/pc/ In the right hands it is a good gun. In the right hands every gun is good though? I mean, I hate to be all "look at the stats" but I'm fairly sure that the 74's main advantage is looking badass. Then again, I have the odd opinion of currently preferring the 249 to the MG4. I'd rather limit the length of my bursts while pulling down than burst longer while pulling down and to the right. moller fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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My point is it's a good weapon to keep a bunch of shots on point, while saturating an area, and fast (for an LMG anyway) reload. I've found you can hold the trigger longer than others and still have your shots land where you want them too, even when zoomed. Longer bursts mean more dead guys, and when not using a bipod, it's a huge benefit.
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Target Practice posted:I'm sorry, but in my opinion MAVLAMing is waaaaaaay less bullshit then some rear end in a top hat in an LB or attack jet that goes 50-4 cause you're team loving sucks. Haha, oh man. I would so use this as a blurb on the cover of my non-existent book about flying in the battlefield series.
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It's just goes back to the age old problem of balance in bf games. I think they really need to come up with some sort of match making or PUG system for the next game. Obviously it wouldn't replace pub servers but just be an option. I realise there already are PUG's but in my mind they are just "pro" infantry domination type things aren't they? That game mode doesn't need fixing really. The more I think about it the more I see problems with the idea. The ideal would be having even amounts of pilots and drivers and also even amounts of infantry in each class. Maybe you could have predefined slots or some thing? The most frustrating thing about bf games is that when it all comes together it's a totally unique and amazing experience. But how often do you actually get? One in ten games or probably even less? There has to be some way players can be channelled into making things better. e - If any of you are interested about that EA youtube drama. Jackfrags did a video. None of it sounds that sinister what so ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=311tmt063hw Jippa fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Jippa posted:By law they now have to give their employees time off because sweden is 50 years ahead of every one else on this stuff. As a Scando-goon, I'll defend them on this.  About MAVFLAM, when it was first discovered, I tried it a round or two, but got bored of it. I mostly play on decent local servers, and wouldn't want to get banned from them for it. I actually came across the enemy team doing it for the first time yesterday, and it was quite annoying. I called them out in chat and they quit, I think. I did go up in my own MAV to see if I could find their SOFLAM or MAV and take it down, but on Paracel Storm, that's a lot of ground to cover. About the unlock shortcuts: I already unlocked everything, but I wouldn't cheat myself out of the grind. because I'm a massive masochist, apparently. At some point, the grind does become the game. In BF3 I got bored of the same weapons, so got 500 kills with every primary, and it wasn't too bad. But then again, BF4 does not yet have the CQ maps with 48p SQDM... I probably won't bother in BF4 though. Platoon sizes: BF3 platoons have 100 people, so I'd assume BF4 platoons would have at least that.
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http://gfycat.com/FailingGrandioseFireant Literally my entire experience in this loving game.
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LampkinsMateSteve posted:As a Scando-goon, I'll defend them on this. Yes it's a very good idea. Gonkish, luckily that hasn't happened to me for ages.
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Gonkish posted:http://gfycat.com/FailingGrandioseFireant If you are getting hit markers they should die, i'd say that the person is hacking.
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wyoak posted:It is an exploit, but the SUAV is a joke. Want to counter it? Stay still for two seconds as it flies by, then runs out of battery. I never tried it myself but I think I saw somewhere that if you're beside an ammo box, the SUAV's battery recharges...
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:How low are you guys flying? You can be up real high and still lase things and spot doritos for your team. The thing that gets me most of the time are jets or sometimes a chopper. That's boring. Usually if I use the MAV I'm more distracted with blowing up enemy armor or infantry with their own explosives to remember to soflam stuff and usually fly lower. I also chase C4 dirt bikes as best as I can.
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Gonkish posted:http://gfycat.com/FailingGrandioseFireant That looks dodgy as hell. Not really experienced anything like that though.
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Yeah if you watch it in slo-mo the guy does take damage but his health jumps from empty to full a couple of times. Odd.
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ShiroTheSniper posted:I never tried it myself but I think I saw somewhere that if you're beside an ammo box, the SUAV's battery recharges... Think someones pulling your chain. I've never been able to get that to work... unless you need to be holding a button maybe?
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I'm getting a little annoyed with the guns in this game. Pretty much all but two in each class are absolutely useless and there's little point using them unless you enjoy intentionally gimping yourself merely to enjoy how a gun looks. There's wide differences between the various classes, of course, but I'd like to see unlocks/stats which are weapon specific to help overcome a particular guns issues. Examples: G36C (as pointed out by LevelCapGaming) is a modern gun made out of lightweight materials. He points out that the gun is very very average (slow rpm, average bullet spread etc) so maybe it should have a much quicker ADS time. He mentioned the G36C has ammo clips/magazines (don't sperg me, gun nuts) which can clip together for quick reload. So why not give it better ADS time and a unique unlock for a specific type of magazine/clip which gives quicker reload/larger bullet amount but, to make it a little fairer, make that re-balance unlock take up another unlock slot so you can't have that and a barrel attachment etc. Same goes for other guns - if they have a weakness, give them an unlock which address that but you have to sacrifice another unlock for it. And isn't it about time launchers got unlocks? So we can choose to have better lock time vs more damage vs greater range etc. Edit: And maybe introduce a new grenade unlock which means you can opt to carry NO grenades and instead carry 30/40% more ammo for your main weapon etc.
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DICE posted:UPCOMING BF4 WEAPON TWEAKS
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Considering the entire G36 family was HK clumsily trying( and failing) to convince organizations that they needed to buy guns to replace the M16/AR15 family of rifles, it only makes sense that it's completely average and offers no advantages over its competition. 
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TheRationalRedditor posted:It's not. The MG4 is a great LMG. The M240B is a great LMG. If you're not using those when in the LMG category, you could be doing much, much better. Also the accuracy bonus to HBs sounds like it's going to be a straight buff to any weapon that's primarily hip-fired, since the compensator/brake already suck on them, so have fun with your even-more-accurate MTARs and Skorpions. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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I still don't understand why  decided to lower the G36's rate of fire from 750 rpm to 650 rpm. Also, if I remember correctly the transparanet clip-on clips are not sold on the export versions of the G36, so the Reload kinda makes sense. (Well, considering how stupid reloading times in this game are anyhow.)I'd actually pay good money for a game that has a full-sized G36 instead of some smaller variant and also includes the original dualsight.
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Randler posted:I'd actually pay good money for a game that has a full-sized G36 instead of some smaller variant and also includes the original dualsight.
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Liking the sound of those changes. But quote:Previously, if a player began firing before aiming, he would keep his hip inaccuracy while aimed, In that vein, the new heavy barrel sounds good, too. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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So every one will be able to unlock all the dmr's and shot guns for this patch. I think that's great. I'm looking forward to having more medium range fights with them on vehicle maps. I'm not a gun goon what so ever so please don't sneer at me but I always lumped in dmr's with sniper rifles any way. In dayz they just have a gun called a "dmr" which is basically a sniper rifle it just ins't as long range as the m40. You still just snipe with it though.
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Generally DMRs will be semi-auto while sniper rifles have a tendency to be single shot. Afaik, the DMR in Day Z is actually just an M14, which was one of the most satisfying guns of BF3.
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Did we ever get that mumble mess figured out last night after I left? We had 2 different squads on two separate mumbles both called KFS somehow unless someone was just mistaken about the others name. That was fun until the server started making GBS threads itself, I see that happen on Hainan all the time on various servers so I wonder what it is about that map.
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Bohemian Nights posted:Generally DMRs will be semi-auto while sniper rifles have a tendency to be single shot. Afaik, the DMR in Day Z is actually just an M14, which was one of the most satisfying guns of BF3. Ah yeah you are right. In dayz they have the "svd camo" as well. Is that just the svd 12 from bf4 with some ghillie stuff on it?
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OneEightHundred posted:If the stats are right, the RPK-74 has a much lower FSRM than the other mag-feds, which seems like a pretty useful advantage, especially when it's already one of the most accurate LMGs in every other category. RPM is still one of the most critical stats and at 600 RPM, you're going to get beaten by... virtually every other gun in the game. Meanwhile, the M240B has 50 higher RPM, a lower FSRM and a much higher damage model.
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Leb posted:RPM is still one of the most critical stats and at 600 RPM, you're going to get beaten by... virtually every other gun in the game. Meanwhile, the M240B has 50 higher RPM, a lower FSRM and a much higher damage model. And much better range.
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Jippa posted:Ah yeah you are right. In dayz they have the "svd camo" as well. Is that just the svd 12 from bf4 with some ghillie stuff on it? It's probably a Dragunov rifle, the DMR version of the Ak-47.
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I'm trying to level Assault and I'm awful at it, what's the gun I should be aiming for? I seem to lose almost every engagement with the starter one.
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WastedJoker posted:MTAR changes are probably fair but only change is to range it will still be a death laser at close range.
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm trying to level Assault and I'm awful at it, what's the gun I should be aiming for? I seem to lose almost every engagement with the starter one. The AK-12 is actually pretty decent when you look at the stats. The SCAR is pretty top notch as well, though the lower magazine size is a bit annoying at first. I unlocked the SAR-21 this weekend and did pretty well with it sans attachments. Oddly the M416 edges it out in nearly every category but I couldn't do poo poo with that one.
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Lazyfire posted:The AK-12 is actually pretty decent when you look at the stats. The SCAR is pretty top notch as well, though the lower magazine size is a bit annoying at first. I unlocked the SAR-21 this weekend and did pretty well with it sans attachments. Oddly the M416 edges it out in nearly every category but I couldn't do poo poo with that one. If there is one gun that deserves the term death laser its the SAR-21.
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Sandweed posted:If there is one gun that deserves the term death laser its the SAR-21. The SAR was my best gun until I got parts for the ACE-23. The SAR is insane especially with its max stability with grips.
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davmo1 posted:Think someones pulling your chain. I've never been able to get that to work... unless you need to be holding a button maybe? I can't verify it because I'm at work and can't look at YouTube videos but... It was Major Nelson who told that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkZIzGyQbs If I remember correctly, he tells that the battery recharge... ?
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Sandweed posted:If there is one gun that deserves the term death laser its the SAR-21. I thought things seemed to be going awful well when I switched over. It was also the first time I had seen the "Shoot a man and watch as no hitmarker appears" thing happen, so I figured something had resolved itself on the server shortly after I switched.
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ShiroTheSniper posted:I can't verify it because I'm at work and can't look at YouTube videos but... It was Major Nelson who told that: I'm pretty sure he just means you can get a new one from ammo boxes.
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