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MourningView posted:A Michigan Man would never be allowed to intimidate and threaten a rape victim, unless he's, like, really good at protecting the QB's blind side. Do you have a source for that quote?
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Neodoomium posted:Dude you should see how they're reacting to this on mgoblog. For all the guffawing they did about Penn State's fans, they sure are quick to jump right in that boat with them when it's one of theirs. I don't think I've ever been more disgusted by the MGoBoard. I thought that there might be a handful of morons who would presume Gibbons' guilt. I never dreamed that there'd be this sort of mass freakout. Let's review:
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Dattserberg posted:Do you have a source for that quote? From the way Michigan fans carry on he is the moral compass for the entire university so I am extrapolating a tad.
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Jan 29, 2014 19:57
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Is Bo Schembechler some dead white football coach or something?
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MourningView posted:From the way Michigan fans carry on he is the moral compass for the entire university so I am extrapolating a tad. Oh, it was a joke. I just thought what you said was funny for the reasons you listed above.
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Jan 29, 2014 20:20
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Is Bo Schembechler the Paterno-esque figure I believe him to be (minus the rape) (I hope)
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Declan MacManus posted:Is Bo Schembechler the Paterno-esque figure I believe him to be (minus the rape) (I hope) There hasn't been the institution-shaking revelation about him yet, so by and large Michigan fans continue to revere him as a demigod. I allow myself to look back on him very fondly until I'm given a reason not to, even though his tenure led directly to us fans considering a double reverse sweep to be the pinnacle of trickery. "Whoa! He FAKED handing it off! Is that even legal?"
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Jan 29, 2014 20:26
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Declan MacManus posted:Is Bo Schembechler the Paterno-esque figure I believe him to be (minus the rape) (I hope) Bo is a revered figure when speaking of Michigan football. He did a lot to get the program to it's current level as a hallmark football university. As the GM of the Detroit Tigers, that's another story. He fired Ernie Harwell, therefore he probably lacks a soul.
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Neodoomium posted:There hasn't been the institution-shaking revelation about him yet, so by and large Michigan fans continue to revere him as a demigod. I allow myself to look back on him very fondly until I'm given a reason not to, even though his tenure led directly to us fans considering a double reverse sweep to be the pinnacle of trickery. Actually amusingly his offense was a lot closer to what Rich Rod was doing than it was to what the stodgy traditionalists want and what Hoke keeps talking about doing. They're really worshipping at the alter of Lloyd Carr when it comes to actual football stuff.
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MourningView posted:Actually amusingly his offense was a lot closer to what Rich Rod was doing than what the stodgy traditionalists want and what Hoke keeps talking about running. They're really worshipping at the alter of Lloyd Carr when it comes to actual football stuff. That's true. Anthony Carter being a major example of the dynamic offenses Michigan would run out there.
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I was in the band when they filmed some stupid short for ESPN with Bo and Nick Lachey. Bo talked to us a little bit and lamented the days when women weren't allowed in the band and how the world isn't a "man's world" anymore. It was like hanging out with my angry racist grandma. So, big surprise, he's just a big dumb Paterno who no one should be looking up to as a role model. Good at coaching football doesn't mean we should build statues and shrines. This whole ordeal has been really stupid and embarrassing. I'm pissed that Hoke and Brandon just sat on this poo poo with hand-wavey "let the legal process play out." People should be fired over this poo poo but they'll just do the Notre Dame thing and nothing will happen. I'm really starting to hate this Hoke-Brandon regime and I would be happy to see them both gone.
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Declan MacManus posted:Is Bo Schembechler the Paterno-esque figure I believe him to be (minus the rape) (I hope) Pretty much, but all of his institutional stuff was largely done behind the scenes. The program was very close-knit, didn't speak out against the program in public, the ties to alumni were strong, and the team was kept as controversy-free as possible. The general consensus is that in the Schembechler years, Gibbons wouldn't have stayed on the team in 2009, and Lewan would've been pushed to potentially the point of quitting for being a dumbass. It would not have been a public thing, but the player would have been dismissed and expelled for something ambiguous like a violation of team rules. Players got kicked off or expelled for team rules over any kind of criminal activity, so that kind of thing hardly ever happened. The main difference between Paterno and Schembechler, other than the obvious, is that Paterno made a large public deal about how morally upright his program was. Bo, on the other hand, only brought it up when controversy came to him, starting with a couple seniors signing with agents in the '80s. MourningView posted:Actually amusingly his offense was a lot closer to what Rich Rod was doing than it was to what the stodgy traditionalists want and what Hoke keeps talking about doing. They're really worshipping at the alter of Lloyd Carr when it comes to actual football stuff. Bo actually liked Rich Rodriguez, and his offense. However, Bo died one year before Rich Rod was hired. Of the big wide receivers in recent Michigan history, there's a big gap between the Moeller wideouts (Desmond Howard, Amani Toomer) and the guys from the last decade (Braylon Edwards, Mario Manningham). Once Lloyd got the coaching job after Moeller was forced to resign, the offense was largely structured around one running back and one major wideout until 2005 or so. Michigan's running backs were Anthony Thomas from 1997-2000, Chris Perry from 2000-03, and Mike Hart from 2004-07, with the offense running through those guys. There was not much variation in Michigan's offense, until someone graduated out. Dattserberg posted:Bo is a revered figure when speaking of Michigan football. He did a lot to get the program to its current level as a hallmark football university. The story around Ann Arbor is that Tom Monaghan, the founder of Domino's Pizza and then owner of the Tigers, hired Bo to be the team president, after Schembechler retired from Michigan. Monaghan wanted to make lots of changes in the marketing department, and Bo thought taking the public criticism would be the honorable thing to do. Instead, Monaghan made him the fall guy, and fired him by fax on his wedding anniversary while his wife was dying of cancer. The lesson, as always, is that Michigan athletics should never listen to executives from Domino's Pizza and their marketing strategies.
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The really interesting/horrifying part of this to me is whether the school actually did anything to stop the investigation/hide evidence/whatever or if there simply wasn't enough evidence for a criminal prosecution. If it's door #1 a whole bunch of people should get fired and thrown in jail. If it's door #2 we just get to be sad about the fact that a guy who probably raped someone and his buddy(ies?) who sided with him and threatened the victim were never so much as suspended, much less booted out of school. Given that we're talking about college football I kind of automatically assumed it's the worst case scenario which is awfully depressing in itself.
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Because we're not spending enough time talking about rapes: Ole Miss CB Bobby Hill was arrested for sexual battery. Let us remember that all boys are presumed right until proven ain't.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Because we're not spending enough time talking about rapes: Ole Miss CB Bobby Hill was arrested for sexual battery. Let us remember that all boys are presumed right until proven ain't. Was he part of the group shouting homophobic slurs at the theatre?
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Jan 30, 2014 00:48
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Bo Schembechler has been dead for 7 years, how he would have handled it means jack poo poo. How Brandon, Hoke, and RichRod have handled it is the only thing that matters
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Reminder that MGoBlog is the blog that harassed the organizer of a HS football all-star game for including a QB who was committed to Michigan State at the time.
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Jan 30, 2014 01:42
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Reminder that MGoBlog is the blog that harassed the orgenizer of a HS football all-star game for including a QB who was committed to Michigan State at the time. As I recall the whole thing was skeezy because the guy wasn't even invited to the game until MSU started recruiting him. It wasn't that it was MSU per se, it was that it smacked of conflict of interest and illegal recruiting.
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Jan 30, 2014 01:57
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You'd be surprised at how often stuff like that happens
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Brian should just make a new site with no comment section or message board and also never attempt humor.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Because we're not spending enough time talking about rapes: Ole Miss CB Bobby Hill was arrested for sexual battery. Let us remember that all boys are presumed right until proven ain't. Dangitt Bobby!
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Spintzel posted:Dangitt Bobby!  Bill obviously put him up to it.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Brian should just make a new site with no comment section or message board and also never attempt humor. this! but also stop whining about the stadium playing music!
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Brian should just make a new site with no comment section or message board and also never attempt humor. He can be a funny dude when he's not leaning on lolcats or something similar. He just does that a lot. Oodles of Wootles posted:Bo Schembechler has been dead for 7 years, how he would have handled it means jack poo poo. How Brandon, Hoke, and RichRod have handled it is the only thing that matters I was just using him as shorthand for the whole Michigan Man thing. MourningView fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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Pfff, when was the last time Georgia Tech did anything of value?
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While its funny, it would have been better coming from Bama, LSU, or Florida. Tell me all about your BCS wins Texas A&M  .
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A&M is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Other schools in our half of the country have won a bunch of championships. Kiss their rings you dirty Northerners. 
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Detroit_Dogg posted:A&M is the gift that keeps on giving. They're an SEC tradition
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Reminder that Sagarin and Massey both rated Texas' 2013 strength of schedule higher than A&M's. And A&M claims a national championship based on Sagarin so clearly he's very legit.
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MourningView posted:I was just using him as shorthand for the whole Michigan Man thing. Actually, Dave Brandon's biggest selling point when he became the AD was that he played for Bo, and that he's a Michigan Man that understands what it means and all of that. On another note, dog mascots 
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swickles posted:While its funny, it would have been better coming from Bama, LSU, or Florida. Tell me all about your BCS wins Texas A&M Learning to ride Alabama's coattails is a key part of being a SEC member; they're just trying to fit in.
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Thermos H Christ posted:Reminder that Sagarin and Massey both rated Texas' 2013 strength of schedule higher than A&M's. And A&M claims a national championship based on Sagarin so clearly he's very legit. Reminder that gently caress Texas.
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MourningView posted:
I know, my point is the same as yours. They venerate Bo the same as PSU does Paterno.
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AsInHowe posted:On another note, dog mascots If only UGA would stop inbreeding our mascot's bloodline so we can stop ending up with a dog that looks like it wants to die at any given moment: 
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Wittek transferring from USC.
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KKKLIP ART posted:If only UGA would stop inbreeding our mascot's bloodline so we can stop ending up with a dog that looks like it wants to die at any given moment: This is how you breed a bulldog mascot:  As cute as Dubs? No, but makes up for it with pure awesomness and longetivity (sorry Uga). Also, I will be opening nominations for The 4th Annual Ben Roethlisberger Douche of the Year Tournament on Monday, as Sunday is the official close of all good football.
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He's had a rough career but somehow managed not to improve one bit in his four years at USC. Go FCS, young man.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Reminder that MGoBlog is the blog that harassed the organizer of a HS football all-star game for including a QB who was committed to Michigan State at the time. In MgoBlog's defense that guy was a real bad QB and I think he's dead or something now
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