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Wasn't there an actual Arab American QB that started for the Bills once?
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Doltos posted:Wasn't there an actual Arab American QB that started for the Bills once? I think it was Gibran Hamdan. Rap posted:Did not know that about any of those guys. Do any of them identify as Arab-American? Flutie's great-grandfather immigrated from Lebanon, Wikipedia tells me, but is that a close enough tie for him to see himself as Arab-American? Jeff George does for sure. Self-identity is a tough one. People kind of pick and choose and a lot depends on how insular they were once they came to the US, which part of the family is doing well or liked, and whether they have ties to something like the Orthodox Church or anything else that may keep that Arab connection alive. It would be funny to see an analyst compare Manziel to George and Flutie and proclaim that "Arab QBs have moxie." Though at least we've reached the point where more often than not players are compared to other players based off of attributes and not race or ethnicity.
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Jan 30, 2014 00:09
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On the other hand, most of those kinds of judgements are fed by what people see and I doubt many consider those guys anything other than white.
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Jan 30, 2014 00:19
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Aniki posted:I think it was Gibran Hamdan. Hamdan only made it on the field during the regular season once, during his first season with Washington, and mostly bounced around practice squads and backup slots. He did play a bunch of preseason and NFL Europa games though.
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Jan 30, 2014 01:42
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Grozz Nuy posted:Here's a Rotoworld article on with a bunch of stats on the second-tier WRs. Further strengthening my belief that Robinson is the best of the tier-2 receivers. Or possibly the bottom of tier one.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:07
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Speaking as a Bama homer that loves unsung hero Kevin Norwood to death, Odell Beckham Jr. was the best receiver I had the pleasure of watching this year.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:40
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My ND homer self believes TJ Jones will be a decent slot guy for someone. Ran some solid routes and had pretty good production considering Tommy Rees was his QB...
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Jan 30, 2014 03:24
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Jarvis Landry had two drops all year. And he did this: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24301139/video-jarvis-landrys-amazing-catch-vs-arkansas Draft that man, somebody.
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Jan 30, 2014 04:11
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NippleFloss posted:Jarvis Landry had two drops all year. We did it guys. We have proof that wizards exist.
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Jan 30, 2014 04:48
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He's going to make some team very happy in the second round.
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Jan 30, 2014 04:52
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I really wish KC could somehow get both Landry and Beckham Jr and just have an all LSU WR corps. That would own.
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Jan 30, 2014 04:58
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They'll both be gone by your second pick. I could see the Ravens targeting Landry in the second as he's the closet thing to a Boldin clone this draft has.
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Jan 30, 2014 05:07
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I would really like to see the Panthers get Beckham Jr. with their first, but I have my doubts that he'll be there.
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Jan 30, 2014 05:43
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zimbomonkey posted:Further strengthening my belief that Robinson is the best of the tier-2 receivers. Or possibly the bottom of tier one. Robinson and Landry are the two guys I like, and they're probably the best fits for the Niners offense of the group as well. Although now that I think about it, that may subconsciously influence the prospects I find myself liking in the first place. If Gilbert and Dennard are off the board when the Niners pick/they don't feel strongly enough to move up and get one of them in a trade, taking Robinson at 30 would be all right by me.
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Jan 30, 2014 06:55
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drat I was hoping people were sleeping on Beckham Jr. and Landry.
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Jan 30, 2014 07:36
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At least a few mocks are projecting a run on WRs in the mid-to-late 1st, as several teams there need one.
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Jan 30, 2014 07:42
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Wishlist: We grab Clinton-Dix in the first, Kouandjio in the second, and Brandon Coleman in the third. Our secondary would be stacked. The second is a good time to find a RT like Kouandjio who should immediately help the run game. Coleman would be the perfect compliment to a WR core that includes Torrey Smith and JJ. (Hopefully it turns out better than Doss.)
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Jan 30, 2014 07:57
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Two overrated Bama players and a receiver who is pure measurables. That sounds pretty terrible man.
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Jan 30, 2014 08:26
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pure measureables
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Jan 30, 2014 08:29
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Size, physical attributes, whatever.
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Jan 30, 2014 08:32
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I doubt Lee or Evans will be there at #16 personally, it's too early then to go after a RT. Clinton-Dix has shown ball skills and outside of picking up Byrd in FA is probably the best option to start at FS where we have a gaping hole. Kouandjio got better as the season went on and a bad bowl game doesn't totally erase that. Coleman is what you can expect out of a third round reciever if you're aiming for someone with a high ceiling. We already have three, maybe four legitimate passing targets, it's the right situation to go after a guy like that.
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Jan 30, 2014 08:44
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Jarvis Landry aka Juice is so loving good and a special teams monster.
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Jan 30, 2014 08:46
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Never draft from LSU, except for weed guys. Is Landry a weed guy?
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Jan 30, 2014 08:49
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SlipUp posted:I doubt Lee or Evans will be there at #16 personally, it's too early then to go after a RT. Clinton-Dix has shown ball skills and outside of picking up Byrd in FA is probably the best option to start at FS where we have a gaping hole. Kouandjio got better as the season went on and a bad bowl game doesn't totally erase that. Coleman is what you can expect out of a third round reciever if you're aiming for someone with a high ceiling. We already have three, maybe four legitimate passing targets, it's the right situation to go after a guy like that. I really think we need a pass catcher and this draft is so good there that it would be foolish not to try early. But... SlipUp posted:I doubt Lee or Evans will be there at #16 personally, it's too early then to go after a RT. quote:I doubt Lee or Evans will be there at #16 personally quote:Lee or Evans SlipUp posted:Lee Evans 
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Jan 30, 2014 09:02
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I think Lee could very easily be around at 16 considering his knee and lackluster production last year in comparison with 2012. I'd expect him to go in the early 20s. I think the early second round is when WRs will start flying off the board.
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Jan 30, 2014 09:24
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The draft is always supply vs demand so all those WRs with 1st/2nd round grades will be shaken up at the time of the draft. I see no issue with Lee or Evans dropping or one of the tier 2 WRs falling to the third day. Watkins is the only one who is solidifying his draft position at the moment. It feels like people are cooling off on Lee kinda in the same way people cooled off on Brian Robiskie a while back.
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Jan 30, 2014 15:56
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Rotoworld posted:Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show, Alabama QB AJ McCarron said he is unsure if he will throw at the NFL Combine.
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Jan 30, 2014 17:15
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I feel like if he were that confident in his abilities he'd be begging to do the drills. No senior bowl and no throwing at the combine. Who does he think he is? Andrew luck and rg3??? He's getting terrible advice
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Jan 30, 2014 17:18
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Quest For Glory II posted:Oh draft night is going to be loving great if he's in the green room. He's so loving confident, this is gonna be amazing. Well he's still got his pro day if he doesn't do the combine. Many throwers opt for that route if they're not confident in showcasing their talent on the same day as other guys. It sounds like he's getting really bad advice but I'm not sure how much practicing he's doing on the side to convince NFL front offices to take him.
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Jan 30, 2014 17:21
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Can this be some kind of hypothesis testing? Is someone pulling some strings to judge how far just being a BCS champion winning QB can get you?
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Jan 30, 2014 17:23
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If you take AJ McCarron in the first five rounds, you're nuts. I'd take Boyd over him in a heartbeat.
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Jan 30, 2014 17:34
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I wouldn't start either of them. If my QB goes down I'd much rather have McCarron waiting in the wings than Boyd. You won't be more likely to win with either but you'd be more likely to lose with Boyd.
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Jan 30, 2014 17:35
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Yeah McCarron needs to take whoever's giving him advice and trebuchet their rear end of a cliff Of course watch it be some relative of his
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Jan 30, 2014 17:44
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It's probably his tattoo giving him advice
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Jan 30, 2014 18:05
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only god can evaluate me
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Doltos posted:I wouldn't start either of them. If my QB goes down I'd much rather have McCarron waiting in the wings than Boyd. You won't be more likely to win with either but you'd be more likely to lose with Boyd. So either you don't really get logic or you think McCarron is more likely to cause your team to tie
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Jan 30, 2014 19:23
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I think everyone understood what he meant. He won't win you guys by himself but he's much less likely to melt down and lose them singlehandedly
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Jan 30, 2014 19:32
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Grozz Nuy posted:I think Lee could very easily be around at 16 considering his knee and lackluster production last year in comparison with 2012. I'd expect him to go in the early 20s. I think the early second round is when WRs will start flying off the board. He was healthy and productive by the time they got to their bowl game, so I doubt it will hurt him that much
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Jan 30, 2014 19:33
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I think everyone understood what he meant. He won't win you guys by himself but he's much less likely to melt down and lose them singlehandedly I understood nothing. Me 
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Rap posted:I understood nothing. Me that dog is also brown. Crazy got what I was saying. If my starting QB went down I want a game manager in his place since the odds of winding up with a Nick Foles like performance is small. Guys like Boyd would start running all over the field fumbling and tossing stupid picks en route to a blow out loss. It's pretty much exactly like the Vikings situation with Joe Webb.
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