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knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? Yes. The effect of Gary Merchant checks your devotion upon resolution, so while the ability is on the stack if your opponent can remove the permanents that contribute to devotion to black, the damage from Grey Merchant would be 0.
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knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? Gray Merchant of Asphodel enters the battlefield. The "When this enters the battlefield..." ability triggers and is put on the stack. Before the ability is resolved, your opponent will have an opportunity to cast instants, for example to remove some creature with black mana symbols from the battlefield (even the Gray Merchant itself). The devotion is checked only when you resolve the ability from the stack. Edit: If you mean to ask, is there a way of preventing the ETB ability from triggering, you would have to have something like Torpor Orb on the field for it. Or Humility I guess. Lunsku fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 20:51
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knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? Total devotion is checked once gary enters the battlefield. If gary gets ultimate priced while the trigger is on the stack and you have no other devotion to black the trigger then resolves and drains for zero.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:52
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knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? Quicken -> Planar Cleansing? If you're looking for something like Fog for life loss, no, I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:54
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knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? 1) Cast Grey Merchant 2) Response: Rift Overloaded 3) Grey Merchant resolves, sees a total of BB on the board (himself) 4) Drains for 2 instead of lethal. You can also (if this is outside of standard) use Voidslime or Stifle to counter the ability
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Feb 13, 2014 20:57
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^^^ why would you not just respond to the Merchant's ability like others have been sayingsuicidesteve posted:Quicken -> Planar Cleansing? If you're looking for something like Fog for life loss, no, I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. An instant saying 'You can't lose life this turn. (Damage causes loss of life.)' would be interesting design space that as far as I'm aware hasn't been explored yet, like you said. They'd probably need a reminder about not being able to pay life either.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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suicidesteve posted:I really want to know what happened to Mana Crypt. I got one 3 1/2 weeks ago for $120 and a week and a half later it jumped to $250. Okay, I'm glad this isn't just me. I posted about it about a week back and the response was "EDH/Cube!", which is fair, but doesn't explain a jump like that, EDH and cube have been big for a while now, and it's price was essentially flat over that time. It is a card with a limited supply, but I don't see how it doubling in price isn't someone taking a run at buying them up. Of course, foil Rishadan Port is $500 now, so Magic prices always find a new way to shoot up even more.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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JerryLee posted:An instant saying 'You can't lose life this turn. (Damage causes loss of life.)' would be interesting design space that as far as I'm aware hasn't been explored yet, like you said. They'd probably need a reminder about not being able to pay life either. Edit: Oops, misread.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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JerryLee posted:^^^ why would you not just respond to the Merchant's ability like others have been saying
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Feb 13, 2014 21:00
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:So that he doesn't have it in hand to play last after replaying everything else? Ahh, yeah, that's a pretty good idea if leaving the Merchant on the board for a turn isn't going to mess with your plans in other ways. Good call.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:01
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JerryLee posted:^^^ why would you not just respond to the Merchant's ability like others have been saying The only similar effect that I can find (obviously not standard) is the static ability of Platinum Emperion.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:01
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Entropic posted:Vintage Masters is MTGO only and 99% Conspiracy will be a paper-only product since they're coming out at around the same time and because MTGO coders are stressed out enough as it is. I don't think Conspiracy will be on Magic Online. Maybe someday but not now. Wizards never released Archenemy on Magic Online.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:07
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What if they only program the "beta" client for the new set? This would allow them to get more people to use v4. efb beaten knowonecanknow posted:Got a question I'm hoping to get resolved. If I play a Gray Merchant of Asphodel is there any way for my opponent to block the damage done by the card as it enters the battlefield, can you cast an instant against it before it finishes "entering the battlefield"? Korak fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 21:13
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Kabanaw posted:...Yeah, that! I forgot Cryptic Command was in the set. It's worth more than it's ever been now. I ordered one off a tcgplayer vendor over a week ago and it still hasn't shipped. The vendor is not responding to my messages about the order's status. I've already escalated the issue to tcgplayer and the order will probably end up canceled and I'll get a refund. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same card pop up the day after cancellation and it be listed at the new higher price.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:26
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Korak posted:What if they only program the "beta" client for the new set? This would allow them to get more people to use v4. This was always counter intuitive to me... Lets say my opponent plays a Gary and I Hero's downfall it, shouldn't it's ETB ability take place as it has to be on the battlefield in order to be a valid target for the downfall?
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Feb 13, 2014 21:28
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mcmagic posted:This was always counter intuitive to me... Lets say my opponent plays a Gary and I Hero's downfall it, shouldn't it's ETB ability take place as it has to be on the battlefield in order to be a valid target for the downfall? The effect goes on the stack when the creature enters the battlefield. Once it's on the stack it will resolve whether the creature is on the battlefield or not, barring effects like Stifle or Trickbind.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:30
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mcmagic posted:This was always counter intuitive to me... Lets say my opponent plays a Gary and I Hero's downfall it, shouldn't it's ETB ability take place as it has to be on the battlefield in order to be a valid target for the downfall? Like everything else, that ability uses the stack, and responding to it means your ability or spell resolves first. The drain life ability will still trigger, but if there's nothing on the battlefield, you have no devotion to black to speak of.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:31
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Oh mtgo, you so crazy.
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Bugsy posted:Oh mtgo, you so crazy. hahaha why did this happen?
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Feb 13, 2014 21:41
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Bread Set Jettison posted:hahaha why did this happen? The last round of the draft started, Nummy had the high life total and the prompt showed up to set his life total. I don't know if it crashed on him or he closed it but it dropped him from the event and marked the game at 0-2-1.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:44
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JerryLee posted:^^^ why would you not just respond to the Merchant's ability like others have been saying "Target player's life total can't change this turn." would be neat, I think.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:46
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vOv posted:"Target player's life total can't change this turn." would be neat, I think. Angel's Grace is pretty close.
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Applebees posted:I don't think Conspiracy will be on Magic Online. Maybe someday but not now. Wizards never released Archenemy on Magic Online. I think this'll be paper only as well, mainly to be the closest thing to a cube as we're going to see. I want to be wrong, though, I want there to be a cube standalone.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:50
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Mtgo suckage part 2. Thats a really small goyf.
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Kinda late to the party, but does anyone have a link to more info on the goon brew of breakfast burrito? I did some google searches and came up with the basic strategy of the deck, and winning turn 1 looks like a lot of fun. I saw a couple builds that cost less than $150, could be fun to just have sitting around.
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jhorphear posted:Kinda late to the party, but does anyone have a link to more info on the goon brew of breakfast burrito? I did some google searches and came up with the basic strategy of the deck, and winning turn 1 looks like a lot of fun. I saw a couple builds that cost less than $150, could be fun to just have sitting around. Here's the old one, which I think is the best because of the Mimeoplasm kill.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:14
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Boxn posted:Here's the old one, which I think is the best because of the Mimeoplasm kill. Thanks!, that's one of the builds I found earlier. I think this deck would be great for multiplayer. I enjoy pissing people off more than anything in multiplayer, and killing them before they even get to draw sounds divine.
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jhorphear posted:Thanks!, that's one of the builds I found earlier. I think this deck would be great for multiplayer. I enjoy pissing people off more than anything in multiplayer, and killing them before they even get to draw sounds divine. I have this one as well. If I recall this was from January.
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Dunno if MURDERGOATS chat is discouraged here, but I threw the deck together on MTGO and its just ridiculously fun, and the synergy just makes for great moments. Highlights so far: Very first game, making 15+ tokens by like turn 5 because I had Pyromancer out and kept winning the Molten Birth coin toss. Crashing a MODO game because I cast Akroan Horse after Purphoros and the game poo poo its pants. Coming back against a white weenie deck with a 6/6 Phalanx Leader who sac'd a Heliod Ordeal and was at 36 life when I started the come back. Just a really loving hilarious and fun deck, I love you guys haha.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:36
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Loving Life Partner posted:Dunno if MURDERGOATS chat is discouraged here, but I threw the deck together on MTGO and its just ridiculously fun, and the synergy just makes for great moments. Played my GB deck in tourney practice against a guy with murdergoats and I wanted to tear my face off once he assembled multiple Trading Posts up + recurring Ratchet Bomb for days.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:57
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It's a shame murdergoats in the same standard as Thoughtseize, you really need your decks to be hyper-redundant to get through it.
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quote:Worth Wollpert #mtgworth 1h WHAT DID YOU DO?!
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I can't even get angry at stupid MTGO bugs now, it's just become sort of adorable.  "We broke everything, players start with 32,000 life and commonly played cards crash the game!"  oh, modo, you so crazy
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I guess now isn't the best time to start playing that burn deck I've been planning...
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CountFosco posted:I guess now isn't the best time to start playing that burn deck I've been planning... True story, couple friends were playing a casual game, one idiot gets off an infinite life combo, I helpfully explain that he does need to pick a number. Guy settles on 69,000,000 (because inside we're all still 13). Opponent shrugs, declines to concede when asked, then untaps, plays Malignus, swings and connects for 34,500,000 damage, then Flings Malignus for the win.
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Loving Life Partner posted:Dunno if MURDERGOATS chat is discouraged here, but I threw the deck together on MTGO and its just ridiculously fun, and the synergy just makes for great moments. That's awesome LLP. Even if the deck never gets piloted to a GP 1st or w/e, the fact that most people consistently have fun with it is the best. EDIT: Just curious, but did you use my list or your own brew? TIA!MiddleEastBeast posted:Played my GB deck in tourney practice against a guy with murdergoats and I wanted to tear my face off once he assembled multiple Trading Posts up + recurring Ratchet Bomb for days. Yeah, Ratchet Bomb really gives the deck the ability to answer to things it couldn't before, like Illness in the Ranks/Pithing Needle (for Tymaret/Trading Post)/Chained to the Rocks, Detention Sphere/Unflinching Courage, and even opposing tokens like those from Advent of the Wurm. Were you playing this game on MTGO or in a store? I'm impressed that it's spread enough to have goons run into it. Chorocojo posted:WHAT DID YOU DO?! That seems odd, I wonder if- quote:Crashing a MODO game because I cast Akroan Horse after Purphoros and the game poo poo its pants. 
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Tharizdun posted:True story, couple friends were playing a casual game, one idiot gets off an infinite life combo, I helpfully explain that he does need to pick a number. Guy settles on 69,000,000 (because inside we're all still 13). Wait unless someone else had 69 million health, that doesn't sound like it would work as Malignus' power and toughness would instantaneously be reduced after combat damage. Assuming that nobody else had that much health the fling would only deal 17,250,000 damage and leave him at 17,250,000. Should have played magister sphinx (or sorin markov -3, etc) kirtar fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 14, 2014 |
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kirtar posted:Wait unless someone else had 69 million health, that doesn't sound like it would work as Malignus' power and toughness would instantaneously be reduced after combat damage. Assuming that nobody else had that much health the fling would only deal 17,250,000 damage and leave him at 17,250,000. Should have played magister sphinx (or sorin markov -3, etc) Maybe "casual game" means they houseruled combat damage on the stack back in? 
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Kabanaw posted:
Modern Masters was basically fifty/fifty in lowering prices. Alot of the uncommons (kitchen finks, path to exile, lightning helix) prices dramatically moved down, a few rares (bridge from below being a big example) went down, alot of rares stayed the same, but I think all the non-dragon mythics went up. Honestly, if they don't print fetches this year, there are a few cards they could print in m15 and not wrap things. I don't think Tarmagoyf would wrap the environment that much right now without fetches because there are so few ways to get cards in the graveyard, unless you play BUG, which, if they keep the mana denial going, would be hard to do. GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Feb 14, 2014 |
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Bridge from Below getting better art and a cheaper price was awesome.
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