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I'm another that got burned coming back to the Pirates franchise only after seeing a trailer with Ian McShane in it. Then again I'll blindly watch just about anything he's in after Deadwood so I probably shouldn't have expected more from the hundredth movie in that series. I wouldn't compare Black Sails to Deadwood overall, though.
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Feb 13, 2014 17:36
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I would compare it to Deadwood for a few reasons. Its closer to modern times. It doesn't have crazy 300 style cgi. Hell its only had two real fights yet and seems much more about the behind the scenes politics than Spartacus. And its nowhere near as badass as Spartacus. Yes we are early in the show so I hope it gets nuts soon.
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Feb 13, 2014 19:11
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There's probably far more CGI than you think in Black Sails and it being closer to modern times than Spartacus doesn't really change the fact that the tone and scale is very different between it and Deadwood. I'm not really sure what you're even comparing at that point but it's probably not a point worth arguing over either way.
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Feb 13, 2014 19:25
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Fragmented posted:And its nowhere near as badass as Spartacus. Spartacus wasn't as badass as Spartacus until episode 4.
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Feb 13, 2014 19:48
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Spartacus was very over the top, while this show seems to be very much focused on portraying a sort of more grounded and "realistic" aesthetic to pirates than Spartacus did with it's material. Not that that is better or worse, but the comparison with Deadwood I think is pretty decent, although maybe Hell on Wheels is a better comparison with out such lofty expectations. I like it though, I really dig how everything has looked and "felt" in the episodes in the environments. They definitely sell me on being out in the Caribbean.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:12
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I like the comparison to Deadwood, at least in a really loose kind of way. Both portray groups on the semi-lawless frontier of their respective civilizations, and both groups prize their independence and are willing to fight for it, while also recognizing on some level that their independence from the powers that be can't last forever. While Deadwood focused mostly on the permanent residents of the town, the town was also less of a destination and more of a waypoint for most people (like an inland port. Sort of). And both also attempt to portray a realistic vision of a group that's been highly mythologized in the popular consciousness, to the point of incorporating some of the most mythologized figures (like Wild Bill). Yeah, I can see a similarity there. Not as much in style as theme and setting though.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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I dont get the Spartacus comparison at all except they are on the same channel.
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Feb 13, 2014 23:09
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Quoting myself here, but:quote:I compared it to Spartacus in the title because at the time I wrote the OP, Spartacus had just gone off the air and this was next in the pipe for the "historical action series aimed at men ages 18-35." edit: went ahead and threw it into the OP, because this far along in the thread and series your question is a completely valid one Asbury fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 23:39
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JEEVES420 posted:I dont get the Spartacus comparison at all except they are on the same channel. You must have left the room during the blackbeard scene Also show has Mr. T pirate with orc teeth
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Feb 14, 2014 01:27
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Was Blackbeard even a thing in 1715? Like I know he was alive, but was he well known enough to have vaginal hair named after him?
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Feb 14, 2014 01:30
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Solice Kirsk posted:Was Blackbeard even a thing in 1715? Like I know he was alive, but was he well known enough to have vaginal hair named after him? I think a better question is, who cares?
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Feb 14, 2014 01:51
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3Romeo posted:Quoting myself here, but: Can you change the thread title to: Black Sails: Fruit. Fruit. Tits. Tits. Plant. Plant. It's the fuckin same!
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Feb 14, 2014 02:14
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Solice Kirsk posted:Was Blackbeard even a thing in 1715? Like I know he was alive, but was he well known enough to have vaginal hair named after him? Maybe, maybe not. He wasn't the absolute boogeyman he'd eventually become, that only happened after he left the Caribbean and moved up north. He was a pretty crazy guy, so it fits that among the pirates he'd have made a name for himself by this point. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I think a better question is, who cares? And this is a good point. It was a great joke, no point throwing it out just because it might be a few years early. 
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Feb 14, 2014 03:53
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New episode tonight, and no sticky? The mods ram cock in mast!
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Feb 16, 2014 04:07
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Well that was a pleasant slow burn, but now it looks like it's time to hit the loving gas!
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Feb 16, 2014 04:14
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Is ep4 not premiering tonight? It's not up on Starz Play.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:40
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Always say yes to the gently caress tent
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Feb 16, 2014 07:12
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I don't really know what to say without spoilers and whatnot, but I am certainly pleased this got picked up for a second season so far and I also say yes to the fucktent.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:15
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You should never be without a fucktent
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Feb 16, 2014 09:59
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Vane's little opium-addled brush with death was pretty badass. I loved the nod to how unreliable flintlock pistols could be.
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Feb 16, 2014 16:35
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I really liked that episode. They certainly put a lot of spinning plates up. I can't wait to see which ones stay up and which ones come crashing down.
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Feb 16, 2014 21:31
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I like how Rackham was like, "I'll get back on my feet with my wits," whereas Vane was like, "I'll get back on my feet by murdering some assholes."
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Feb 17, 2014 18:33
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nooneofconsequence posted:I like how Rackham was like, "I'll get back on my feet with my wits," whereas Vane was like, "I'll get back on my feet by murdering some assholes." I hope we get to see more of that huge barbarian dude he kept hallucinating and Vane's backstory is as cool as I'm imagining it should be.
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Feb 17, 2014 18:42
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Has there been any hint of who that dude Vane is hallucinating is?
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Feb 17, 2014 18:47
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You'll see more of that big dude in a future episode, yes. Also next week's episode has a sea battle. 
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Feb 17, 2014 22:49
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Five Cent Deposit posted:You'll see more of that big dude in a future episode, yes. Also next week's episode has a sea battle. Hey, I'm cool with you popping in and teasing us like this, but you've got me really curious. How much can you/are you willing to say about your involvement with the show (if anything?)
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Feb 17, 2014 22:59
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Sea battles are the best kinds of battles. I sure hope we see part of a hull explode from a cannonball and shoot a billion splinters into the face of some poor crew member.
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Feb 17, 2014 22:59
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Chum ng into the thread now. I thought it started off a tad slow but the last two episodes really won me over. I'm really interested to see what goes down, gently caress history, I'm watching my soaps.
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Feb 18, 2014 00:21
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DivisionPost posted:Hey, I'm cool with you popping in and teasing us like this, but you've got me really curious. How much can you/are you willing to say about your involvement with the show (if anything?) I dunno. I'm having fun popping in from time to time but I probably won't say much more than I have.
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Feb 18, 2014 22:34
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Five Cent Deposit posted:I dunno. I'm having fun popping in from time to time but I probably won't say much more than I have. Totally fair! Keep having fun!
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Feb 18, 2014 22:35
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Five Cent Deposit posted:I dunno. I'm having fun popping in from time to time but I probably won't say much more than I have. It's you. You're Michael Bay.
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Feb 18, 2014 23:42
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Tighclops posted:It's you. You're Michael Bay. There's not enough "F" bombs and insistences on giving 110%.
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Feb 19, 2014 01:59
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They really went all out to avoind the usual pirate stereotype of a ship full of violent psychos sailing around hoping to come across something to attack and plunder. There is an impressive amount of planning going on, the logistics of getting weapons, the connections needed to sell the loot, plotting the course to intercept the target and the cleaning of the ship hull for extra speed. That being said, the show is due some big action scenes. A ship battle and Annie Bonny gutting some scumbags would be good for the next episode.
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Feb 19, 2014 11:29
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QI tuned me onto Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition, and I've been waiting for a piece of pirate fiction that will go the full homosexual.
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Feb 19, 2014 12:23
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The Pirates of Penzance not homosexual enough?
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Feb 19, 2014 12:40
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I don't know if it was just a throw-away line for the sake of filling space (him not going to the brothel, I mean), or I'm still stuck on Agron in Spartacus, but I can't help but feel that if/when they do spotlight a gay pirate, it's going to be Billy. Probably way off, but those are the vibes I'm getting. edit: Granted, I haven't read Treasure Island since I was a preteen, so I can't remember if there's anything there to prove or disprove that right out of the gate. KatWithHands fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 19, 2014 |
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Feb 19, 2014 22:50
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Those two guys were going to the gently caress tent together, right?
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Feb 19, 2014 23:18
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CeeJee posted:They really went all out to avoind the usual pirate stereotype of a ship full of violent psychos sailing around hoping to come across something to attack and plunder. There is an impressive amount of planning going on, the logistics of getting weapons, the connections needed to sell the loot, plotting the course to intercept the target and the cleaning of the ship hull for extra speed. Yeah. I love the emphases they’ve put on how a lot of these guys are where they are because they’ve rebelled against the fairly oppressive empires that they were subjects of. During the golden age of piracy most pirates started off as dirt poor sailors who were paid poo poo wages and treated like slaves by the ship’s officers until they either snapped and took over the ship or got raided by pirates and joined up. Not to say that a lot of them weren’t bloodthirsty psychopaths. When you’re part of a violent outlaw gang that’s a character trait that leads to promotion.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Those two guys were going to the gently caress tent together, right? Pirate Code says it's not gay if it happens in the gently caress Tent
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