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IIRC they like Shattered Memories, it's why they did SH1 in the first place. So seeing the 'bad' games is possible.
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Oxxidation posted:The order of least bad to most bad is contentious. Mine is Downpour - Origins - Shatmemz - Homecoming. At least shattered memories does something different from other SH games. Whether you enjoy it is a different story, but I like how SM is different.
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Keith and Kyle both friggin loved Shattered Memories, so it's entirely possible that they'll only start liking this series when it gets totally godawful after 4.
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I don't know if Kyle would agree (but probably), I think Shattered Memories is definitely better than SH2 and 3.
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Shattered Memories was flawed but it wasn't bad. I feel like it had a lot of baggage from being a Silent Hill game but if it wasn't part of the franchise I think it'd be remembered more fondly. Then again, Tiger in Space.
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Somethingdumb posted:I don't know if Kyle would agree (but probably), I think Shattered Memories is definitely better than SH2 and 3. I wouldn't even compare them. One is an Adventure Game where you run away in highly confusing sequences, and the other is a Survival Horror Game.
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Feb 20, 2014 19:21
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ThatPazuzu posted:Shattered Memories was flawed but it wasn't bad. I feel like it had a lot of baggage from being a Silent Hill game but if it wasn't part of the franchise I think it'd be remembered more fondly. I think Shattered Memories has a very nagative (abnormally so) view on this site because of Voidburger's LP of the game. Out of no disrespect to her, she looked a bit too deeply into the game than anyone really ever should have, and it really showcased it's flaws more than any play through ever would. The game is decent, and probably worth playing (not really buying as it is really short, and you don't want to play it more than once.
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I thought SH4 was interesting in its strangeness and Japanese-style creepiness, but it can be quite a slog to play. If K&K are going to LP it, it will probably result in a lot of tangential conversations.
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I've seen a lot on the web and from people whose opinions I value that claims that Shattered Memories is brilliant, and I've seen a lot from similar quarters that says it's abysmal. I don't see a lot of middle ground on the subject at all. Opinions on Shattered Memories, though, seem to be independent from those on the trajectory of the series post-4; it's generally considered separate from the other non-Team Silent games. (As others have said, 4 is interesting but very frustrating in parts. (It is, however, largely free of SH3's "nothing's going on" problem.) If patterns hold, though, then it probably would be better for K&K not to continue with the series if they don't enjoy it.) Blenheim fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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Feb 21, 2014 00:43
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I always felt Origins was worse than 4. I actually quit Origins and didn't pick it back up for a couple years because I got so tired of the gimmick(s).
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Shattered Memories is a really good and ambitious game, though not without flaws. It really does have some hilariously bad writing (Kaufmann in general) and the chase scenes were really limited, but the story overall and the atmosphere was some quality stuff. I also think it was ahead of its time when it came to more roleplaying focused adventure games like Telltale's games and Kentucky Route Zero. It's also very faithful to the spirit to the series and is a really good counter-point to SH1. It really doesn't deserve the hate it gets. I also think Origins is a solid game that got dragged down by being forced to be a prequel and 4 has some great ideas but its execution is pretty bad, the characters are really bland, and the last half is such a slog; its my least favorite after Homecoming. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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Blenheim posted:(As others have said, 4 is interesting but very frustrating in parts. Which is to say, the second half. Which itself is pretty loving tragic because the first half of the game is pretty phenomenal and definitely worth playing.
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SH4 is the only game, book, or film that's unfailingly given me nightmares every time I get back into it, and I grew up on horror so that's a tough row to hoe. It's got bad design decisions everywhere, but when it comes to creating tension and menace I'd say it's the best in the series, partly due to those very same bad design decisions. Also it helps to know there's a whole bunch of places in the much-vilified second half where you can ditch your escort consequence-free. Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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Oxxidation posted:SH4 is the only game, book, or film that's unfailingly given me nightmares every time I get back into it, and I grew up on horror so that's a tough row to hoe. It's got bad design decisions everywhere, but when it comes to creating tension and menace I'd say it's the best in the series, partly due to those very same bad design decisions. You may want to remove that last bit... I'm personally looking forward to seeing if they do it because there's exactly one scene I remember vividly as being terrifying when I read through the screenshot LPs of the Silent Hill games, and it's in SH4.
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I don't defend all the bad decisions in SH4, but I'm still a big fan of it. The atmosphere building was pretty phenomenal. I'm not a huge fan of Silent Hill 3, but there's a few parts that are pretty good in general. I don't remember taking so long to get to the point K&K are at, so I wasn't left with a bad taste in my mouth like they are, and I think its a worthy Silent Hill game for sure. Honestly, if I were to choose between more of the Silent Hill series and some other survival horror game, I'd want to see them play Eternal Darkness  . Too bad its a GameCube exclusive.
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ProfessorBooty posted:Honestly, if I were to choose between more of the Silent Hill series and some other survival horror game, I'd want to see them play Eternal Darkness You better not be talking bad about the 'Cube. I will fight you.
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Coffee And Pie posted:You better not be talking bad about the 'Cube. I will fight you. I love the Cube. I still have it in my living room. I'm just saying that because I don't think Kyle has one, which would set him back an extra fifteen bucks if he were to want to grab ED. I mostly use my gamecube for the GBA player nowadays.
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They have to have a Wii. That would be an awesome LP.
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ProfessorBooty posted:I love the Cube. I still have it in my living room. I'm just saying that because I don't think Kyle has one, which would set him back an extra fifteen bucks if he were to want to grab ED. I mostly use my gamecube for the GBA player nowadays. He's got a wii and a gamecube so we good Somethingdumb fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Somethingdumb posted:He's a wii and a gamecube so we good It must be hard for a sentient console to drive to your place, maybe you should get a car instead dude.
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Just so you guys know, we've made up a release/recording schedule so things arent quite so crazy http://tinyurl.com/RBschedule
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That's neat, thanks. Excited for that mystery Let's Play, yo!
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 Part 13: Secret Admirer Business is combination lock puzzles and business is booming.
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Right, so, this puzzle on Hard. Hung next to the door is the following poem, which you should not read if you are eating:Guro Poem posted:Pure eyes, blue like a glassy bead — This first hurdle in this puzzle is realizing that the poem provides the answer to the keypad combination - despite the poem being posted right next to the lock, it's not an obvious combo-lock clue. You'll be left with no other choice in the end, though, since searching won't turn up any other leads. The concept behind the puzzle is unique, if grotesque: you have envision the keypad as the face of the woman in the poem and correlate the assailant's actions to the buttons you must press. The second is that...well, you know the protracted part of the poem where the attacker shoves their thumb into the woman's eye socket "abruptly, decisively, like drilling a hole" and gets hot from swirling it around in the destroyed tissue? The bit with the woman screaming "It hurts! It hurts!" as her eye is turned to jelly and the "cinnabar tears" leaking down and all that? Yeah, you're supposed to ignore that. That's only to clue you in on the fact that the poem's the key to the door lock (the assailant's thumb pressing out/on/through the woman's bulbous eye equating to your finger pressing in a button). What you're really supposed to pay attention to is where the guy's putting his lips, of all things; the acts of violence are to be largely overlooked. This is where the logic of the poem gets questionable: it's the poem's defining act of violence, not any "kissing," that provides the bedrock connection between it and the combo lock, and switching to another metaphor mid-stream, once that has no parallel to the actions you must perform to complete the puzzle, doesn't flow. (Granted, the other acts of violence aren't committed by the fingers, but as other mutilations, they have much more of a natural connection to the eye-gouging than does the kissing.) Furthermore, I can't imagine any player's attention being drawn by where the assailant's putting their lips as opposed to, well, everything else they're doing. The third is that Silent Hill - shockingly, I know - has an odd idea of how the human face is put together. You're juggling eyes, ears, cheeks, and lips in the puzzle and have to sort out how they would all be positioned on three rows of three keys each. (To me, with both ears and cheeks, that would seem to make for a rather crowded second row.) Silent Hill's answer: cheeks are right alongside the lips, at the bottom of the face. Of course they are. The combo turns out to be 4896. Weirdly, though I was charting the mutilations and not the kisses and was unable to figure out Silent Hill biology, both gently caress-ups kind of cancelled each other out for me. I wrote down all the locations each body part could possibly be on the keypad (eyes: 1 & 3 or 4 & 6, etc.) and punched in every permutation that could be derived from the locations of the mutilations. The very last one worked. I understand how the writers here were trying to echo the first game's piano puzzle with multiple insights and connections you have to make (the riddle's the key to the medal; the birds equate to keys corresponding to their colors; their positions in flight relate to the order the keys must be pressed), but there're just too many leaps for the guro puzzle to hang together as a piece of logic. Plus, playing a guessing game as to where the game thinks the features of the face should fall on a 3x3 grid is really exasperating. Blenheim fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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I love it when a family is close enough to rub their dicks together in a butt.
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General Ironicus posted:I love it when a family is close enough to rub their dicks together in a butt. I definitely remember that we said this, but I have no clue why/about what. Also, gross.
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That zombie nurse was asking for it. e: On that note, the nurse with a gun is probably my favorite "oh poo poo!" moment in the game. Pneub fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 4, 2014 |
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Blenheim posted:Hard Mode Puzzle Holy poo poo that's hosed up. 
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Somebody has to beeeee... THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS!
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Blenheim posted:The second is that...well, you know the protracted part of the poem where the attacker shoves their thumb into the woman's eye socket "abruptly, decisively, like drilling a hole" and gets hot from swirling it around in the destroyed tissue? The bit with the woman screaming "It hurts! It hurts!" as her eye is turned to jelly and the "cinnabar tears" leaking down and all that? Yeah, you're supposed to ignore that. That's only to clue you in on the fact that the poem's the key to the door lock (the assailant's thumb pressing out/on/through the woman's bulbous eye equating to your finger pressing in a button). quote:I place my left hand on your  I think some people were trying to explain the discrepancy by saying the gouged eye's bloody tears moved down to the cheeks, so you have to work backwards from the cheeks or something?
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General Ironicus posted:I love it when a family is close enough to rub their dicks together in a butt. Also You guys needed to continue your dramatic readings of Stanley Coleman's letters.
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The best part about it not being december is that I thought I could go a full year without having to hear that stupid loving Paul McCartney christmas song. You fuckers. I'm glad you agree with me about how bad it is, but eugh.
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abbic posted:The best part about it not being december is that I thought I could go a full year without having to hear that stupid loving Paul McCartney christmas song. Ever seen the music video? Watch the music video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1-sXrdQtog
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Somethingdumb posted:I definitely remember that we said this, but I have no clue why/about what. Also, gross. You were celebrating your victory over the keypad puzzle, and it went to a bad place.
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You guys really ate up all your supplies. I honestly don't know how you're gonna make it through to the end of this game, especially with some of the bosses that come up near the end.
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They should be able to pull it off, I think, though they might have to be a bit careful. I came out of the rooftop fight woefully low on bullets and a bit low on health items, and I never really made up that deficit by the end. I spent a lot of the last level scrambling and running like heck with three or so health items to my name, but I was able to win through, and I'm certainly no wizard when it comes to the combat in these games.
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You're low on health but you should have plenty of bullets, you might as well at least clear out the hallways so you don't get hit every other trip. Haven't you ever played Bioshock with hints on? Running past every fight isn't the best idea when you're indoors.
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Pneub posted:You're low on health but you should have plenty of bullets, you might as well at least clear out the hallways so you don't get hit every other trip. Haven't you ever played Bioshock with hints on? Running past every fight isn't the best idea when you're indoors. We spent 2 full silent hill games with people telling us the exact opposite of this.
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Somethingdumb posted:We spent 2 full silent hill games with people telling us the exact opposite of this. It's easy. Outdoors? Run away from everything. Indoors? Katana. Inverted world? Katana. Oh, but use your shotgun on the crawling lizard dudes on the ground because gently caress those guys will stun-lock you to death.
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Somethingdumb posted:We spent 2 full silent hill games with people telling us the exact opposite of this. You've been getting bottle-necked between two nurses everytime you run down one of the long halls, might as well clear those out.
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