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echoplex posted:I just sort of feel that the footage is already out there - it happened, it was documented, it was very real. Any take on it sensationalises it, and maybe I don't mean 'demeans' it but it does kind of demean it - the audio file out there is full of real, tangible, human emotion, a dramatisation or even a derivative work like this just seems surplus to sum human requirements. It's an odd position to take which I wouldn't normally, but something about this kinda bugs me. I can definitely see that, I think you mean to say "cheapens" rather than "demeans". Guyana: Cult Of The Damned already exists and came out like two minutes after the actual massacre at Jonestown so I'm not as disturbed by the motif when a movie like, say, Zero Day. ZD is a very similar idea to this one and much more contemporaneous film to the event it's portraying (and a really good movie, one of the few FF movies I would say is great). It's Ti West, so I trust it's not just a bald recapitulation of things we already know or things that are seared in our minds about this historical event sexed up by the hip FF trend, but on the other hand, if Ti West made a movie about a thinly veiled Adam Lanza or something I'd probably have a similar reaction.
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echoplex posted:I just sort of feel that the footage is already out there - it happened, it was documented, it was very real. Any take on it sensationalises it, and maybe I don't mean 'demeans' it but it does kind of demean it - the audio file out there is full of real, tangible, human emotion, a dramatisation or even a derivative work like this just seems surplus to sum human requirements. It's an odd position to take which I wouldn't normally, but something about this kinda bugs me. I saw a pretty sleazy 70's exploitation retelling (e: the one mentioned above, I think), but viewing it through that lens, just the fact of it being made directly after the event made it super interesting. This I'm not interested in, even though I loved (all but the end of) House of the Devil. It would've been neat if he actually stepped up and made the real Jim Jones movie in all dead seriousness instead of selling to the same midnight movie crowd. e: I guess if Eli Roth has to produce, there's most of your tone decided for you. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Feb 22, 2014 09:04
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I knew it! Behind the door is a giant cat. That's why everyone's too scared to cross the threshold.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I can definitely see that, I think you mean to say "cheapens" rather than "demeans". Guyana: Cult Of The Damned already exists and came out like two minutes after the actual massacre at Jonestown so I'm not as disturbed by the motif when a movie like, say, Zero Day. ZD is a very similar idea to this one and much more contemporaneous film to the event it's portraying (and a really good movie, one of the few FF movies I would say is great). It's Ti West, so I trust it's not just a bald recapitulation of things we already know or things that are seared in our minds about this historical event sexed up by the hip FF trend, but on the other hand, if Ti West made a movie about a thinly veiled Adam Lanza or something I'd probably have a similar reaction. Holy crap someone else who watched Zero Day, mad respek
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echoplex posted:I just sort of feel that the footage is already out there - it happened, it was documented, it was very real. Any take on it sensationalises it, and maybe I don't mean 'demeans' it but it does kind of demean it - the audio file out there is full of real, tangible, human emotion, a dramatisation or even a derivative work like this just seems surplus to sum human requirements. It's an odd position to take which I wouldn't normally, but something about this kinda bugs me. One of the worst things I've heard so far in this young year is that there are Jonestown apologists.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:One of the worst things I've heard so far in this young year is that there are Jonestown apologists. What's that even entail?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What's that even entail? It might because the People's Temple, before Jim Jones went all off the rails, had some good points. Jones had actually started the church up as way to espouse Marxist ideals through a religious format, since it was difficult for Cold War-era America to embrace those beliefs. It was also largely inclusive, reaching out to the poor urban African-American community. The reason they moved to Guyana was because Jones felt corporate-run capitalist America had become "too racist" and it would give their African-American members "a place in a black country where our black members could live in peace". In San Francisco, when they started to be fairly political, you even had contemporary politicians such as Harvey Milk speaking at People's Temple rallies and Jones help organized volunteers for George Moscone's close win in the mayoral election. Jones even met with Vice President Walter Mondale and President Jimmy Carter praised him even when the investigations started. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Ah, if you said "People's Temple" apologist, I might've come to that conclusion. But clearly Jonestown was the beginning of something else entirely.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Ah, if you said "People's Temple" apologist, I might've come to that conclusion. But clearly Jonestown was the beginning of something else entirely. I think it's hard to remove the People's Temple from Jim Jones and Jonestown, since the People's Temple as an organization didn't survive past the massacre. It's not like the Branch Davidians or Aum Shinriyko (now known as Aleph), which have distanced themselves from their leaderships' past actions. As for the massacre itself, Jim Jones intended for the mass suicide as some sort of socialist Masada. After he killed himself, he had the remaining funds donated to the USSR. That's all I can probably say positive about it. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Pourin outta 40: My Kid Made This part 5 I don't know many "ladies" that go around dressing like that. Hussy.  Featuring: Intense Nun! Broken Neck Woman! the Popcorn Humper! the Creeper Bros! and the Ghost of the woman-who-was-just-a-head-and-one-shoulder!  Oh that Kill Squad, always turning up when half the job's done.  Sure he remembered to bring the storm, but where's the potato salad?  Asleep on the job again? You're fired Thompson!  Robopig! Cross-Eyed Reaper! Sleepy Man! Waking up on the beach! Sleeping in the Tub! and... umm... Zardoz?  Because nothing says blood-thumping action like pastels.
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Feb 23, 2014 00:05
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ShufflerZero posted:
Oh so that's what really happened to Johnny Gat.
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Feb 23, 2014 00:11
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The Stormbringer one looks like a fake poster you'd see in Batman the Animated Series.
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ShufflerZero posted:
Zardoz? It's Jim Jones, the man we've been speaking of all this page about.
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Feb 23, 2014 00:12
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Poster for new Norwegian movie starring Thormund Giantsbane and Hitler:
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Young Freud posted:Zardoz? It's Jim Jones, the man we've been speaking of all this page about. In my opinion, the sleepy men he describes are probably, instead, dead.
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ShufflerZero posted:
This looks like a Scary Movie poster.
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Young Freud posted:I think it's hard to remove the People's Temple from Jim Jones and Jonestown, since the People's Temple as an organization didn't survive past the massacre. It's not like the Branch Davidians or Aum Shinriyko (now known as Aleph), which have distanced themselves from their leaderships' past actions. How is donating money to the USSR a positive thing?
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ninjahedgehog posted:How is donating money to the USSR a positive thing? It was consistent with his beliefs regarding socialism and communism.
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Feb 23, 2014 19:45
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 Can be seen in the bathroom of a bar in Westport KC. Can't say I've ever heard of the movie.
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Criminal Minded posted:
All I know of it is that is was produced and written by and stars Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies. In a rather serious role.
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Young Freud posted:All I know of it is that is was produced and written by and stars Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies. In a rather serious role. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8d4VN1MlE Macon is a shithole. "Hey sweet potata!"
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Feb 23, 2014 23:59
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  So profound.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:
...I don't get it.
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TheJoker138 posted:...I don't get it. There's a snail at one point of the film.
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Franz von Dada posted:There's a snail at one point of the film. I have the blu ray sitting right over there > and don't remember this at all. 10/10 would buy poster.
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TheJoker138 posted:...I don't get it. Let it be said that no one will ever accuse you of understanding things. Kurtz: [intercepted radio message] I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.
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TheJoker138 posted:I have the blu ray sitting right over there > and don't remember this at all. It's only visible at 4k for 22 frames.
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TheJoker138 posted:...I don't get it. Seriously? Kurtz talks about sitting there watching a snail slither along the sharp side of his knife in the radio message that the brass and probable CIA guy play to Willard when they call him in for the mission briefing at the start of the movie. I haven't watched Apocalypse Now for about 10 years and I remember it quite clearly.
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I've seen it multiple times and don't remember that line. I do remember most of the Kurtz monologues from when Brando's on-screen so maybe it needs that for me.
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Now that you mention it I do remember that. I can't tell that's a straight razor/knife, though. I thought it was a metal table.
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Feb 24, 2014 09:45
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Hey look, I made my very own minimalist poster. I'm quite an artist. Get it? GET IT?
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Franz von Dada posted:Hey look, I made my very own minimalist poster. I'm quite an artist.
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Feb 24, 2014 10:13
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If only it was an snail crawling along a straight razor. Like, close, but not close. EDIT: I just mean I want to see that. Not a picture, but if they're going to draw it, they might as well go the whole way. Could be cool.
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I really like minimalist posters with things on them that even die-hard fans might not recognise. It turns the conversation into a discussion of how much smarter I am. I'm considering making and selling posters like this with obscure poo poo on it, but none of which is actually in the film so you have to take my word for it.
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Feb 24, 2014 12:43
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Hey, I made a minimalistic poster too! You guys have to guess what it is, if you want to be as dedicated as I am
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Feb 24, 2014 19:17
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The Dark Knight 
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Feb 24, 2014 19:27
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Aladdin.
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Franz von Dada posted:Hey look, I made my very own minimalist poster. I'm quite an artist. I actually laughed and was about to recommend that you do do this, then I remembered the Monolith is a perfect 1:3 ratio and not 1:1.54 ratio.
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Requiem for a Dream. ^^^ It's 1:4:9, what is wrong with you? Edit 2: It's Godfather, isn't it? Nesetril fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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It's Blood Diamond. A blood orange and a precious stone.
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