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change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

pointsofdata posted:

My hypothesis would be that there's an inverse relationship between chance of ever getting late and post length analysing why poster is not getting laid.

FYAD posters: rolling in the V

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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


All we are is dust in the wind.

ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich

pointsofdata posted:

My hypothesis would be that there's an inverse relationship between chance of ever getting late and post length analysing why poster is not getting laid.

I don't think this theory works. My posts have been pretty short and my chances are like 1% or so.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction
Hey, maybe it's worth a try.

tl;dr: I suck.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

There's also a correlation between people who are incredibly loving stupid and people who have a lot of sex. I think that correlates pretty well with post length too.

FYAD posters: making GBS threads out retarded children faster than we can type out intelligent analyses of our relationship failings.

Lindy Hopscotch
Mar 30, 2010

You know the story about the scorpion and the frog?

change my name posted:

How can you not get laid at ART SCHOOL.

i went to art school a virgin but lost my virginity to a hot dude that was not an art student :woop:

i was nerdy and geeky as gently caress like any other nerd lady that has posted, and had not once a penis in my vagina til i was about 20-21.

fast forward and im a way different person with way more confidence and now i got a fiance (with a penis).

Zack_Gochuck
Jan 4, 2007

Stupid Wrestling People

kaworu posted:

There's also a correlation between people who are incredibly loving stupid and people who have a lot of sex.


Well then you must have a ton.

client
Aug 19, 2010

kaworu posted:

There's also a correlation between people who are incredibly loving stupid and people who have a lot of sex. I think that correlates pretty well with post length too.

FYAD posters: making GBS threads out retarded children faster than we can type out intelligent analyses of our relationship failings.

Yes clearly everyone wants to read a treatise about your terrible, boring bad life in every single thread.

*in my hulk hogan voice* "keep posting brother!"

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

MonkeyforaHead posted:

It would perhaps be reassuring to have even a single example of a successful pairing present anywhere within my personal spectrum of perception. I literally have no precedent, even via proxy, other than abject failure and misery.

And there aren't a whole lot of decent venues for shut-ins to mingle. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than okcupid. ...or art forums, or whatever the hell else have you.

tl;dr I really can't imagine it's worth it at this point

This guy is using words.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Words!!!! The antithesis of sexhaving!!

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Ryan Gooseling posted:

i went to art school a virgin but lost my virginity to a hot dude that was not an art student :woop:

i was nerdy and geeky as gently caress like any other nerd lady that has posted, and had not once a penis in my vagina til i was about 20-21.

fast forward and im a way different person with way more confidence and now i got a fiance (with a penis).

20-21? lmao pedophilia much?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Hey Virgoons, I've had issues in the past as some of these superstars can tell you. I've been able to have sex, and you can too. As has been mentioned before you have to leave the house and go do things with other people. I know it's scary at first, but you'll start making friends and aquantances, and eventually meet men and women who will want to have sex with you.

I've been going through a dry spell for the last year, but I know why. It's because I am unable to read women :negative:

It turns out that I know a bunch of women who admited that they liked me for a while, or at least wanted me, but I was too dense to have detected it. Oh well, I have lots of friends, and being friendly and able to converse about things with men and women of all ages is a good skill to have.

The Unholy Ghost
Feb 19, 2011
Hello, 18 year old virgin here. I'm not that old yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a virgin until I turn 25 when I finally just pay a prostitute. I was without lust for most of high school, mostly wanting sex out of jealously/to fit in with others. Now that I’m in college, I’ve joined six different clubs (all that have women attending) and I’ve actually been starting to develop a “real” interest in sex. Sadly, being friends with and hanging out with women on a daily basis still does not help with getting into a relationship, despite the broken record advice I’ve read here and elsewhere.

The fact is, I can’t pick up social cues at all, and so I’m absolutely without hope in regard to ever having a girlfriend. Sometimes I get the vague feeling that a girl likes me, but I have no idea on how to act on it, and I don’t want to ask her to go eat somewhere in the chance that I’m totally getting the wrong impression (which is a very high chance).

These issues coupled with a life-long depression have caused me to start visiting a school counselor, who doesn’t seem to be helping me so far.

Also, this “sexual lust” I’m feeling may just be a new form of the jealously I’ve had for everyone else for the last four years, and I’m starting to believe that I’m turning asexual.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
So why aren't you getting together with all these girls that say they like you?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Squalitude posted:

So why aren't you getting together with all these girls that say they like you?

They usually let me know when they've moved on to someone else.

Zack_Gochuck
Jan 4, 2007

Stupid Wrestling People

Squalitude posted:

So why aren't you getting together with all these girls that say they like you?

I feel like some people have this mental block where they think, "What if I look like an idiot for hitting on her?" But it doesn't work that way in the regular ol' adult world. It's not like a movie about high school where the girl pulls your pants down in the cafeteria and makes you look like an idiot in front of everyone. Like, she's just going to say no and you both move on with your life and that's pretty much it unless you're a big weirdo about it and start stalking her or some poo poo.

Iron Crowned posted:

They usually let me know when they've moved on to someone else.

Tap that poo poo on the rebound.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Iron Crowned posted:

They usually let me know when they've moved on to someone else.

how considerate of them

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

The Unholy Ghost posted:

Hello, 18 year old virgin here. I'm not that old yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a virgin until I turn 25 when I finally just pay a prostitute. I was without lust for most of high school, mostly wanting sex out of jealously/to fit in with others. Now that I’m in college, I’ve joined six different clubs (all that have women attending) and I’ve actually been starting to develop a “real” interest in sex. Sadly, being friends with and hanging out with women on a daily basis still does not help with getting into a relationship, despite the broken record advice I’ve read here and elsewhere.

The fact is, I can’t pick up social cues at all, and so I’m absolutely without hope in regard to ever having a girlfriend. Sometimes I get the vague feeling that a girl likes me, but I have no idea on how to act on it, and I don’t want to ask her to go eat somewhere in the chance that I’m totally getting the wrong impression (which is a very high chance).

These issues coupled with a life-long depression have caused me to start visiting a school counselor, who doesn’t seem to be helping me so far.

Also, this “sexual lust” I’m feeling may just be a new form of the jealously I’ve had for everyone else for the last four years, and I’m starting to believe that I’m turning asexual.

You're 18 and in college, chill out.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Zack_Gochuck posted:

I feel like some people have this mental block where they think, "What if I look like an idiot for hitting on her?" But it doesn't work that way in the regular ol' adult world. It's not like a movie about high school where the girl pulls your pants down in the cafeteria and makes you look like an idiot in front of everyone. Like, she's just going to say no and you both move on with your life and that's pretty much it unless you're a big weirdo about it and start stalking her or some poo poo.

Eh, it's a big old confusing social mess to me. I really can't read most social cues unless they're blatant, which in one case it was, but she was also attached at the time and, then had a big mess from the fallout from that, and I figured that it wasn't appropriate at the time. Oh well, you live and learn I guess.

Zack_Gochuck posted:

Tap that poo poo on the rebound.

We'll see, I generally just go with the flow of things, if it happens it happens, if it doesn't, it's no big deal.

Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat

The Unholy Ghost posted:

Sadly, being friends with and hanging out with women on a daily basis still does not help with getting into a relationship, despite the broken record advice I’ve read here and elsewhere.

it helps when compared with people who never interact with women. you still have to have an active role in your own life. you already know girls so the hard part is done.

quote:

The fact is, I can’t pick up social cues at all, and so I’m absolutely without hope in regard to ever having a girlfriend. Sometimes I get the vague feeling that a girl likes me, but I have no idea on how to act on it, and I don’t want to ask her to go eat somewhere in the chance that I’m totally getting the wrong impression (which is a very high chance).

so what. ask them if they want to go on a date and if they say no then you move on. it's not rocket science. realistically ask yourself what will happen if you ask someone out and they say no. it's not scary, it doesn't hurt, things don't get weird. if you never try it'll never happen and if you do try there's a pretty good chance it'll happen at college. so don't waste your time with these negative-rear end thoughts, drat

pringledingle
Apr 3, 2013

Iron Crowned posted:

Hey Virgoons, I've had issues in the past as some of these superstars can tell you. I've been able to have sex, and you can too. As has been mentioned before you have to leave the house and go do things with other people. I know it's scary at first, but you'll start making friends and aquantances, and eventually meet men and women who will want to have sex with you.

I've been going through a dry spell for the last year, but I know why. It's because I am unable to read women :negative:

It turns out that I know a bunch of women who admited that they liked me for a while, or at least wanted me, but I was too dense to have detected it. Oh well, I have lots of friends, and being friendly and able to converse about things with men and women of all ages is a good skill to have.

You should read women like a book-

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




ArbitraryC posted:

Have the gal goons in this thread tried online dating? Gender is hilariously skewed on most of those sites and if you're somewhat presentable looking I'm sure you'll get your inbox flooded before you're done even filling out the rest of your profile. Granted, it might take a bit of time until you find someone you're actually interested in back, but pretty much no girl I've ever known that's tried online dating ever had a problem getting dates from it. It's pretty low key and un-intimidating as far as a way to get out there.

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Pinball posted:

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

What are you comfortable with? What do you want? There's no rules or poo poo on how it works, but I'm sure the dude wants to bone you if he likes you. Hell, if you two like each other let things get hot and heavy right away then it's up to you and him. Might be better if you get to know him a little bit so you know what you're getting into before it goes too far but it's up to you.

My friend had signed up for an online dating site, she got 800 messages in a day and then soon after deleted her account.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
Jesus, you are not expected or obligated to do anything on any date. You go, do whatever activity you planned, talk to each other. If you hit it off, good. If both parties want to hug or kiss it should be fairly obvious. If not then no big deal. And that doesn't necessarily mean they don't like you. Some people just need a little longer to get to that point.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

Just go at the speed you're comfortable with, consider a kiss on the cheek if you don't feel like going for the lips. You're not obligated to anything. In retrospect I was getting dragged from 0-60 by someone who would just as soon put out in the middle of the first date, and even trying to meet that halfway was terrifying.

feel free to tell me I'm completely wrong and a horrible person for trying

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

Pinball posted:

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

There is no way this post is from a real person. Literally, do what feels right to you at all times. Kiss him before the coffee if you want to, or don't. How some of you people are actually alive is beyond me.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Dr. Tim Whatley posted:

There is no way this post is from a real person. Literally, do what feels right to you at all times. Kiss him before the coffee if you want to, or don't. How some of you people are actually alive is beyond me.

That is the most normal virgoon post I've ever seen. At least she isn't posting about how all guys just wanna date sluts and asking if women can do pua.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Pinball posted:

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

Go someplace public where you can hang out and be yourself. I usually meet Internet people at the pub (easy on the booze though) - a place where it's normal and not-weird to chat with random strangers is also a normal and not-weird place to chat with an Internet stranger. Chat about your hobbies, your work, just kind of get to know what he's about and share some info about yourself too. It's pretty much the same as hanging out with a regular person, except your options stay open and there's nothing to "ruin" if you let them know you're into them.

Just don't dump a bunch of expectations on the guys you meet and you'll be fine. If you don't click, that's not a failure, it's just part of getting to know people. This is just the "getting to know a stranger and make a new friend" stage, so don't look too far ahead and get freaked out, just go with the flow.

As for when to kiss, if you're attracted to him and he seems like he's into you, go for it. If not, then don't. There aren't any rules, just respect the other person's boundaries (and your too).

I'm a dude though so I don't know if the gender dynamics change anything. Keep yourself safe of course, don't invite a complete stranger over to your house.

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Dr. Tim Whatley posted:

There is no way this post is from a real person. Literally, do what feels right to you at all times. Kiss him before the coffee if you want to, or don't. How some of you people are actually alive is beyond me.

Well clearly this doesn't work right?

car dance
May 12, 2010

Ben is actually an escaped polar bear, posing as a human.

Unlikely because Polar Bears do not know how to speak.
Also it does not make any sense.

Pinball posted:

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

No one is expected to do anything. Life is not a bunch of things that are forced without social cues. You will know or maybe you won't and then get help.

I've hosed on the first date, third date, tenth date, gone on no dates with someone and still slept with them. There are no rules.

Isotropic
Jan 6, 2013

The Unholy Ghost posted:

Hello, 18 year old virgin here. I'm not that old yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a virgin until I turn 25 when I finally just pay a prostitute. I was without lust for most of high school, mostly wanting sex out of jealously/to fit in with others. Now that I’m in college, I’ve joined six different clubs (all that have women attending) and I’ve actually been starting to develop a “real” interest in sex. Sadly, being friends with and hanging out with women on a daily basis still does not help with getting into a relationship, despite the broken record advice I’ve read here and elsewhere.

The fact is, I can’t pick up social cues at all, and so I’m absolutely without hope in regard to ever having a girlfriend. Sometimes I get the vague feeling that a girl likes me, but I have no idea on how to act on it, and I don’t want to ask her to go eat somewhere in the chance that I’m totally getting the wrong impression (which is a very high chance).

These issues coupled with a life-long depression have caused me to start visiting a school counselor, who doesn’t seem to be helping me so far.

Also, this “sexual lust” I’m feeling may just be a new form of the jealously I’ve had for everyone else for the last four years, and I’m starting to believe that I’m turning asexual.


why do you say jealously instead of jealousy. they're different parts of speech. hope you learn something while not getting laid in college idiot.

ejstheman
Feb 11, 2004

Pinball posted:

I'm talking to a few guys on PoF and OkCupid, but I'm very anxious about making the jump to meeting in real life. I've never been on a proper date. Are you expected to kiss at the end of a first date, even if you're just meeting up at a coffee shop? Isn't there an expectation about how you should have sex on the third date?

I'm going to talk to my university's counselors tomorrow, but I'm not sure whether they'll be able to help me or if my anxiety about dating is something they even deal with.

For me personally, if a woman doesn't want at least a kiss before the end of our first date, I assume she's not into me and isn't forward enough to say it directly, and don't call her for a second date. I have some social anxiety and I tend to match similar people on OkCupid, and if we're both going to be slow/timid, the relationship is just wasting everyone's time. If such a person ever called me for a second date and I liked other stuff about our first date, I'd probably say yes, but that's literally never happened.

People have all kinds of weird expectations, but just because they have them doesn't make them reasonable, so feel free to tell any guy "no" if he wants something that you don't also want. In my official capacity as a representative of all men everywhere, I hereby grant you permission to date according to this rule. On the other hand, if you aren't looking for someone to have sex with, why are you trying to date instead of trying to make friends? If you're not attracted to a guy, don't continue dating him to see if you feel differently later, just date a different guy. There are lots of us out there!

Edit: Think about it this way. Suppose that you told a guy the truth about it, that you're not feeling super into the idea of sex, but you're willing to do it anyway because you're lonely, depressed, feel compelled by social norms, or whatever. If a guy says "good enough for me!", is that a guy you want to date? Of course not. So don't worry about being expected to have sex. If it comes up, just say "no," and if that means the relationship ends, let it end.

ejstheman fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Feb 25, 2014

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


MonkeyforaHead posted:

It would perhaps be reassuring to have even a single example of a successful pairing present anywhere within my personal spectrum of perception. I literally have no precedent, even via proxy, other than abject failure and misery.

And there aren't a whole lot of decent venues for shut-ins to mingle. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than okcupid. ...or art forums, or whatever the hell else have you.

tl;dr I really can't imagine it's worth it at this point

I had missed this. You're amazing OP you should try okcupid again and let us help you with your profile.

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




Thanks for all the advice!

I'm not really sure yet what exactly I want out of a relationship. I imagine sex is nice, but my sex having friends have said that its not the be all end all of life, even though it's often represented that way. Since it's not apparently not that awesome, I'm not sure why I've attached this monumental significance to it.

I suppose what I'd really like is a partner, someone to go through life with and help each other achieve our dreams. I just have to work on my anxiety.

ejstheman
Feb 11, 2004

Pinball posted:

Thanks for all the advice!

I'm not really sure yet what exactly I want out of a relationship. I imagine sex is nice, but my sex having friends have said that its not the be all end all of life, even though it's often represented that way. Since it's not apparently not that awesome, I'm not sure why I've attached this monumental significance to it.

I suppose what I'd really like is a partner, someone to go through life with and help each other achieve our dreams. I just have to work on my anxiety.

That sounds like a totally reasonable thing to want out of a relationship, but it's something that you're a lot more likely to get out of interacting with people you're already connected with socially, and a lot less likely to get out of Internet dating. The Internet makes you stupid (and others too), and there's a certain lack of attention span that goes along with having an infinite queue of other people behind whoever you're checking out at the moment. That doesn't mean that OkCupid can't help you; one of my friends met his fiancee there and they're super happy together. But I live in DC, where a lot of people are transplants from far away. They don't have a local social network, but they're socially normal. This is one of the best cities for that site. Depending on where you live, that may not be true for you. In a lot of places, OkCupid has a bias towards people who are dating on the rebound, trying to be more casual, etc.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Most nerd virgins (nerdgins) are just looking for some intimacy. Pinball you seem alright so as long as you keep it casual at first and don't build up all these expectations for a dude the first time you meet him (or worse, before) you'll probably be fine and get some good experiences out of it. Or bad experiences. Experiences anyway. Don't let yourself get taken for a ride and don't let your inexperience trick you into falling for some creepy dude and they'll probably be mostly good experiences.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

Spiffo posted:

Don't let yourself get taken for a ride

the gently caress is the point of this thread again?

Banned for Life
Feb 14, 2014

yougottabecrittingme
I was a virgin until I was 21-years-old. College happened and I forced myself to change my personality on the some of the most basic levels. Ended up loving a friend of mine on St. Patty's Day.
She was somewhat of a slut and the next morning she wasn't very happy about her drunken decision and decided to quit drinking... for like a week. We hooked up a bunch of times in the following years and
could have ended up dating if I wasn't such a weirdo piece of poo poo. I'm turning 25 soon and haven't gotten laid in just under a year. I've got no friends at home, and nobody to reach out to.

Masturbation is fun though. I'm probably retarded.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

The Unholy Ghost posted:

Hello, 18 year old virgin here. I'm not that old yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a virgin until I turn 25 when I finally just pay a prostitute. I was without lust for most of high school, mostly wanting sex out of jealously/to fit in with others. Now that I’m in college, I’ve joined six different clubs (all that have women attending) and I’ve actually been starting to develop a “real” interest in sex. Sadly, being friends with and hanging out with women on a daily basis still does not help with getting into a relationship, despite the broken record advice I’ve read here and elsewhere.

The fact is, I can’t pick up social cues at all, and so I’m absolutely without hope in regard to ever having a girlfriend. Sometimes I get the vague feeling that a girl likes me, but I have no idea on how to act on it, and I don’t want to ask her to go eat somewhere in the chance that I’m totally getting the wrong impression (which is a very high chance).

These issues coupled with a life-long depression have caused me to start visiting a school counselor, who doesn’t seem to be helping me so far.

Also, this “sexual lust” I’m feeling may just be a new form of the jealously I’ve had for everyone else for the last four years, and I’m starting to believe that I’m turning asexual.
I'm within your peer group and will tutor you on Skype for a nominal hourly fee so I can buy drugs.

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Apr 5, 2012

Splurgerwitzl posted:

I'm within your peer group and will tutor you on Skype for a nominal hourly fee so I can buy drugs.

"hi i completely understand and i can help; you just gotta get on skype and show me your dick and give me money"

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