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Crunching Koalas ID experience is really interesting. They've posted about it on GAF and while they're not entirely enthused, they've been definitely complementary about the program and Chris Charla in particular.quote:Originally Posted by CrunchingKoalas Explain How! fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Explain How! posted:Crunching Koalas ID experience is really interesting. They've posted about it on GAF and while they're not entirely enthused, they've been definitely complementary about the program and Chris Charla in particular. Yeah, that piece jives with what Shalinor posted earlier too. It sounds like they have some of the right pieces in place, and are in some aspects better than Sony, but not all.
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MJBuddy posted:Bah Gawd that's Sonic's music!!! Sega Xbox? I'm down.
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Shalinor posted:(moving this over from the Games thread) Yeah, as I understand it there's basically no downside to signing up for ID@Xbox (free dev kit, hence why everyone and their pet dogs are signing up for it), but the release parity clause is a big roadblock to actually releasing anything if you've already got a deal with Sony. I wouldn't be too surprised if that gets swept away sooner rather than later, but as it is it's hamstung the Xbone's digital lineup for the short to medium term. On the other side of the fence, Sony's got the advantage of a couple of third party development houses that seems to be specialising in porting indie games to Sony platforms (namely, Curve and DoubleEleven, Amusingly, Curve's handling the Vita port of Mousecraft that's resulted in Crunching Koalas getting their knickers in a twist over aforementioned release parity clause). As you point out though, it's not like Sony's hurting for indie support (or actual games announced).
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Shalinor posted:(moving this over from the Games thread) I wanna ask why the gently caress isn't the Unity tool set already up and running, but I think we all know the answer to that: Microsoft. edit: Just got hit with the black screen bug trying to exit out of Peggle 2 (which I play because there is still not dick to play on the system 3 months in). BonoMan fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Currently using a pair of turtlebeach X1's with my 360, I know I would have to make/buy an adapter for the plug on the controller, but whats the best way to connect it to the xbone for game audio? Hopefully something that's also easy to switch back to the 360 as well? Or am I looking at getting a new headset for the best compatibility with both?
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:Making this the OP in a giant bolded font followed by "if you still want to buy one or already own, read on" might be useful. BonoMan posted:And I don't understand why people don't just post and move on? If you feel negatively about the system (and there's reason to) then post and move on. If you're in here for months on end fighting some never ending battle then maybe you should take a step back and take a breather.. It's nice to see some sanity in this thread. Thank you both for explaining what I was trying to in a more eloquent way. Edit: Also,  at all the butthurt people in the shark tank thread. Looks like I touched quite the nerve with a simple opinion.
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Has anyone used wireless turtle beaches before? I have X11s, but I get really tired of untangling the wires so I'm thinking about upgrading. Are there any problems with the wireless headsets? And wow, sure are a lot of people with no desire to buy an Xbox One who spend a lot of time posting in this thread. I hope they're all 13 or else it's kind of sad.
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BrokenKnees posted:Currently using a pair of turtlebeach X1's with my 360, I know I would have to make/buy an adapter for the plug on the controller, but whats the best way to connect it to the xbone for game audio? Hopefully something that's also easy to switch back to the 360 as well? Or am I looking at getting a new headset for the best compatibility with both? How do they connect to your 360? Are they using piggyback cables on the red/white stereo? You would need something like this, plus the optical cable, plus the stereo cable, and obviously plus the adapter. And I don't even know if that will actually work because I've never tried it. It's a mess. Edit: Microsoft could have avoided all of that by allowing USB soundcards like Sony does. They're like $5. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Has anyone used wireless turtle beaches before? I have X11s, but I get really tired of untangling the wires so I'm thinking about upgrading. Are there any problems with the wireless headsets? Here is a list of turtle beach compatibility with xbone http://www.turtlebeach.com/support/entry/830517530/ Seems there is a bug with suspend/resume functionality, watch out for it if it's likely to affect you: Mage_Boy posted:Just discovered yesterday that the xbone's "wonderful" suspend and resume feature saves your game state no matter what. This means if you try to check your battery level on your controller while thief is loading (yes he makes bad purchasing decisions.) It will black screen your system. If you then power cycle the system, it will load into s black screen. Time to do a system restore! Stux fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Wait, what's this "Suspend and Resume" feature? I just Googled it and like the only articles about it are from mid-2013. Literally the first page on Google has nothing dated more recently than the Xbone release. It actually sounds kind of awesome. Dead Rising 3 takes so long to start up from a cold system boot (2-3 minutes?) that it almost makes me not want to play it if I only have ~30 minutes or so free. E: Dammit the Xbone has so many potentially cool features that are terrible in terms of execution. At least I'm comforted by knowing that the PS4 is just as bad and Resogun is its only launch window game. I should have learned not to buy consoles at launch after buying a PS3 last time around. Also I hate 3D, but I've never seen an explanation for how the gently caress the PS4 and Xbone are unable to play 3D movies. Isn't this something that $100 blu-ray players could do in like, 2008? Saladman fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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If everything I've heard from a few friends is true, the media capabilities of both the X1 and PS4 are FAR worse than that of the PS3 (which is FAR was that the media capabilities of a Raspberry Pi sans Blueray).
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Saladman posted:At least I'm comforted by knowing that the PS4 is just as bad and Resogun is its only launch window game. I have no idea what you're trying to say here because by no measure I can think of was Resogun the only launch window game, it wasn't even the only free-with-PS+ launch game. It launched with 2 other exclusives (Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall and I'm definitely surprised by the lack of 3D support, especially considering the PS3 does it, although there are definitely some weird specifics in terms of how it's done; each "eye" is its own 1920x1080 video track and the console has to be able to process the signal in different ways depending on the TV. Come to think of it, it probably has something to do with the multitasking of both consoles, since active shutter 3D requires a very high refresh rate that would probably break the multitasking capabilities; I think you pretty much have to dedicate your playing machine 100% to the task, snapping would break the effect entirely and be impossible if you used side-by-side 3D. univbee fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Stux posted:Here is a list of turtle beach compatibility with xbone drat. Use Kinect for chat? I guess I need to go wireless.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Has anyone used wireless turtle beaches before? I have X11s, but I get really tired of untangling the wires so I'm thinking about upgrading. Are there any problems with the wireless headsets? I'm using xp400s running the optical out from my tv. Works great for game audio and I assume when I have the adapter I can finally use game chat too. right now I'm wearing the headset under my headphones and it's pretty uncomfortable after a while.
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univbee posted:I have no idea what you're trying to say here because by no measure I can think of was Resogun the only launch window game, it wasn't even the only free-with-PS+ launch game. It launched with 2 other exclusives (Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall and Sorry, I meant good launch exclusive that's next-gen only. I heard Knack is atrocious and that Killzone is bad-at-best. I like sports games but don't at all understand the year over year purchases, when you can get 2k12 games for like a dollar and 2k13 for like 5 dollars. It's not like they really change much, and often it's for the worse, like the nightmare that is FIFA 2k14. E: I also only played the first Killzone and thought it was a pretty mediocre shooter, but drat it's been almost 10 years since that? Ultimately the real reason I bought an Xbone first is because it's not dual-voltage and I live in Europe, so taking an American machine over here (which I plan to do for the PS4) is a pain in the rear end. I did that for the 360 and jesus was it annoying; you'd be surprised at how hard it is to find a goddamn power supply for sale. At least games aren't region locked for the MS system this time around. Saladman fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Saladman posted:Sorry, I meant good launch exclusive that's next-gen only. I heard Knack is atrocious and that Killzone is bad-at-best. I like sports games but don't at all understand the year over year purchases, when you can get 2k12 games for like a dollar and 2k13 for like 5 dollars. It's not like they really change much, and often it's for the worse, like the nightmare that is FIFA 2k14. Knack is a fun if a bit bland platformer and killzone is a solid fps with arguably the best graphics of any next gen title. Multiplayer side of it is surprisingly fun too as it doesn't go for the whole cod/bf unlock system.
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Stux posted:Knack is a fun if a bit bland platformer and killzone is a solid fps with arguably the best graphics of any next gen title. Multiplayer side of it is surprisingly fun too as it doesn't go for the whole cod/bf unlock system. Is it better than Ryse? People rave about Ryse being pretty and I know nothing of Killzone other than not being a fan of the previous games.
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Yeah, 99% of the reason I got the bone over the PS4 is that there were exactly zero games for the PS4 that I couldnt get on another system. My top 5 played games are on the bone are Forza, Dead Rising, Battlefield, Peggle, and Madden. 3 of those games arent on another system and all 3 are really good. I havent played Knack but I didnt like Killzone much at all. Resogun was the only exclusive launch title that I would have actually bought on the PS4. I had both a PS4 and an xbone reserved and cancelled the PS4 because why buy a system where I can get every game I want to play on it on the other system I have preordered or on my PC? I have 3 friends that bought a PS4. One has not purchased a game for it yet (seriously). One was pretty much only playing Resogun and Marvel Lego until the system broke and he had to send it back. The third played AC4 and NBA on it and is now back to playing his PS3. I feel like the bone is getting a ton of poo poo for a shoddy launch, but hey, at least I have games to play. I have nothing at all against the PS4 and I think its a great system and I will buy one in a few years once the price comes down. But there is nothing to play on it right now. MJBuddy posted:Is it better than Ryse? People rave about Ryse being pretty and I know nothing of Killzone other than not being a fan of the previous games. I would say Ryse is better looking just because the levels of killzone that I played were pretty bland. Everything was detailed and hi-res and everything but there was just nothing to look at. they leaned pretty hard on the grey/brown color palette. I played about 2 hours of the Killzone campaign at my buddys house (the one whose PS4 broke) and it felt really generic to me (he didnt like it either). The setting and the game play and everything. I have heard good things about the multiplayer, but I didnt get a chance to play it so maybe those are better levels to look at and are more fun. But I also didnt like the previous entries in the killzone series on my PS3, and I am pretty sure that this one is regarded as the worst by fans of the series. It certainly got the worst reviews. Ryse is very pretty, but it does come off as a tech demo like someone said. I feel like this is better than the generic aesthetic of Killzone, but neither are particularly good games. WinnebagoWarrior fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:Ryse is very pretty, but it does come off as a tech demo like someone said. I feel like this is better than the generic aesthetic of Killzone, but neither are particularly good games. Ryse also has the cajones to lure you in with beautiful and historically hilariously inaccurate Rome for two stages and then shoves you right out into Britannia for 3/4ths of the game.
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Charles Martel posted:It's nice to see some sanity in this thread. Thank you both for explaining what I was trying to in a more eloquent way. While I agree that it's probably sometimes tiring to see people take a poo poo on whatever console you've decided to go with this generation, I also think posts like this serve no purpose whatsoever. Talk about the system, not about people that talk about the system.
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MJBuddy posted:Is it better than Ryse? People rave about Ryse being pretty and I know nothing of Killzone other than not being a fan of the previous games. On a pure graphical standpoint? Yes, noticeably better. It's a pretty incredible looking game and the single player campaign is better than the drek you get with cod/bf. WinnebagoWarrior posted:Yeah, 99% of the reason I got the bone over the PS4 is that there were exactly zero games for the PS4 that I couldnt get on another system. My top 5 played games are on the bone are Forza, Dead Rising, Battlefield, Peggle, and Madden. 3 of those games arent on another system and all 3 are really good. I havent played Knack but I didnt like Killzone much at all. Resogun was the only exclusive launch title that I would have actually bought on the PS4. I had both a PS4 and an xbone reserved and cancelled the PS4 because why buy a system where I can get every game I want to play on it on the other system I have preordered or on my PC? To be honest I could say the same about the xbone owners I know. One borrowed the last of us off me to play as he's traded in everything but peggle due to getting bored, the other one is just using it as a forza machine and playing his 360 otherwise.
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Saladman posted:Sorry, I meant good launch exclusive that's next-gen only. I heard Knack is atrocious and that Killzone is bad-at-best. I like sports games but don't at all understand the year over year purchases, when you can get 2k12 games for like a dollar and 2k13 for like 5 dollars. It's not like they really change much, and often it's for the worse, like the nightmare that is FIFA 2k14. I just bought Killzone out of wanting to play something with great graphics on my PS4. I'm not a huge FPS player (I've enjoyed Goldeneye and Halo 2; hated Battlefield 4) and I'm genuinely enjoying Killzone. I think the game has a great balance between fast and slower paced moments. I read one review complaining about a slower paced level in out space, but I loved the atmosphere. Basically, I'd give the game a genuine recommendation to people. EDIT: Didn't realize which thread I was in and responded to this. Sorry for discussing non-Xbox games here. ghostwritingduck fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Kewpuh posted:While I agree that it's probably sometimes tiring to see people take a poo poo on whatever console you've decided to go with this generation, I also think posts like this serve no purpose whatsoever. Talk about the system, not about people that talk about the system. For sure, yeah. I didn't think people would throw such an embarrassing hissy fit over me saying something. Just going to ignore it now. Anyway, moving on: One gripe I've had about the XBOne is the 500GB hard drive. Has there been any news on when external storage will be supported I might have missed? I don't feel like breaking open the system to change the internal drive, and 500GB is small when you have game developers that love to throw 30-40GB unoptimized games out the door. I hope that's next after the party system update.
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Charles Martel posted:For sure, yeah. I didn't think people would throw such an embarrassing hissy fit over me saying something. Just going to ignore it now. It is slated to come along with the storage management update but there is no timeline or date other than sometime in 2014. Internal storage isn't upgradable.
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Stux posted:On a pure graphical standpoint? Yes, noticeably better. It's a pretty incredible looking game and the single player campaign is better than the drek you get with cod/bf. Well I wasnt saying that there is a lack of new stuff to play on the PS4 (as is the case with both systems), I was saying there wasnt anything to begin with. Everyone who bought either system on launch is bored right now, not just PS4 people. All I was saying was that Forza/Dead Rising/Ryse was a better exclusive launch line up than Resogun/Killzone/Knack in my own opinion which is why I bought the system. None of my own personal PS4 owning buddies liked or were interested in any of the PS4 exclusives. I was talking about playing games at and around launch, not right now. We are all in the doldrums now until Titanfall and Infamous come out.
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:Well I wasnt saying that there is a lack of new stuff to play on the PS4 (as is the case with both systems), I was saying there wasnt anything to begin with. Everyone who bought either system on launch is bored right now, not just PS4 people. All I was saying was that Forza/Dead Rising/Ryse was a better exclusive launch line up than Resogun/Killzone/Knack in my own opinion which is why I bought the system. None of my own personal PS4 owning buddies liked or were interested in any of the PS4 exclusives. I was talking about playing games at and around launch, not right now. We are all in the doldrums now until Titanfall and Infamous come out. Yeah most people are just playing the multiplatforms or bought the consoles to play those in next gen, my brother got his ps4 for FIFA and BF. I'm guessing people like that we're going for ps4 for the better performance in those titles at the moment. And both consoles, although thin on the ground, are better than 360/ps3 were at launch. Those two were both seriously anemic for up to a year after they came out.
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:Well I wasnt saying that there is a lack of new stuff to play on the PS4 (as is the case with both systems), I was saying there wasnt anything to begin with. Everyone who bought either system on launch is bored right now, not just PS4 people. All I was saying was that Forza/Dead Rising/Ryse was a better exclusive launch line up than Resogun/Killzone/Knack in my own opinion which is why I bought the system. None of my own personal PS4 owning buddies liked or were interested in any of the PS4 exclusives. I was talking about playing games at and around launch, not right now. We are all in the doldrums now until Titanfall and Infamous come out. I do have to admit, I'm looking at the Xbone line-up, and I ain't seeing much. There's Titanfall, there's Worms, there's Nutjitsu, there's Metal Gear V Prologue and then there's more or less nothing until November. The PS4 has Infamous, Drive Club, aforementioned Worms and Metal Gear and a whole pile of indie ports. I wouldn't be too surprised if "Xbone has no gaems" become a common refrain in the summer due to Microsoft being really slow to get out of the gates of courting indie developers. [Edit] Oh, and completely forgot that Destiny is September, so there's that. Delusibeta fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Delusibeta posted:I do have to admit, I'm looking at the Xbone line-up, and I ain't seeing much. There's Titanfall, there's Worms, there's Nutjitsu, there's Metal Gear V Prologue and then there's more or less nothing until November. The PS4 has Infamous, Drive Club, aforementioned Worms and Metal Gear and a whole pile of indie ports. I wouldn't be too surprised if "Xbone has no gaems" become a common refrain in the summer due to Microsoft being really slow to get out of the gates of courting indie developers. watch dogs, the division, dying light, witcher 3, trials, minecraft. As far as being less of a media player, if you were someone who plugged in a USB drive to watch your movies, then yeah, its less. If you're like me and streamed them from your laptop, it works way easier than the 360 did. In windows 7/8 right click the movie, click play-to, then select your Xbox one. Streams perfectly, only thing you have to do is convert mkv to avi. For the record, I'm a Microsoft employee, but I try not to be a shill. Xbone isn't perfect, but its sure as poo poo not the barely a step above Atari 2600 with an instant portal into the NSA that people are making it out to be. Chappy fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Chappy posted:watch dogs, the division, dying light, witcher 3, trials, minecraft. Every single one of those games is also going to be on the Ps4. e: Really, both consoles started rough, but they'll get better. You are mainly buying for a few upfront exclusives and then crossplat stuff. Xbox got you DR3, Ryse, and Peggle. Ps4 gets you Resogun, Killzone, and Knack. Infamous vs Titanfall will be the next big thing next month ( Infamous is a system seller to me, so I'm not going to discount it. ). Then Sunset Overdrive/Order a few months later. Next year will be D3/Uncharted. After that who the heck knows. Rookersh fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Rookersh posted:Every single one of those games is also going to be on the Ps4. Where they will also be better because the PS4 is more powerful. Microsoft needs to get out the real system selling sequel here - fusion frenzy 2. Halo? Nah. Gears of War? Nope. Fusion Frenzy. Unironically. Or I guess Halo 5 and GoW 4 even though the most recent versions of those games have been kinda bad. Edit: I'm not trolling, and to prove that I'll say that I think the Xbox One could at least be a good secondary console, much like the Wii, if it was cheaper and had even a few good exclusives. I'll buy one a few years down the line in that case. Fusion Frenzy is one of those 'party' games that I expect Kinect would be great for, since I wont be getting a playstation camera, but would have to get a Kinect. Both consoles have lovely launch titles and very few exclusives in the future though, I can't defend the PS4 as literally none of the exclusives appealed to me (Peggle 2 slightly appealed to me, but not 500 dollars worth of appeal) KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Rookersh posted:Every single one of those games is also going to be on the Ps4. He didn't mention exclusives. He just said games. Yes, the ps4 is capable of running multiplats at a higher resolution. I can tell you however, I'm honestly not able to tell a difference between say, ac4 on the xbone (900p)and ac4 on the ps4(1080p) and while cod ghosts runs at 1080p on the ps4, it certainly runs a lot smoother on the xbone. I compared tomb raider on both systems as well, and I can't tell a difference at all. This was with two 27 inch monitors side by side. The PS4 is a great console. I'm hoping to have one by my birthday or Christmas this year. I guess I don't understand why people have to only pick one and bash the other? Chappy fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Oh man the other thread reminded me, I'd love a crackdown 3 that wasn't bad. Crackdown 1 got bought for the beta by my older brother, and I probably spent days worth of time just jumping around, trying to climb everything. I rented 2 and played it for a few hours then returned it and got another game (we had a cool rental place that let you return a game within a day and trade it for a different one, no fee). Crackdown 3, Fusion Frenzy 2, I'm sure there's some other worthwhile exclusives Microsoft still holds that could encourage people to buy a bone.
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KittyEmpress posted:Oh man the other thread reminded me, I'd love a crackdown 3 that wasn't bad. Crackdown 1 got bought for the beta by my older brother, and I probably spent days worth of time just jumping around, trying to climb everything. I rented 2 and played it for a few hours then returned it and got another game (we had a cool rental place that let you return a game within a day and trade it for a different one, no fee).
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Chappy posted:He didn't mention exclusives. He just said games. Ah true enough. He was actually somewhat trolling by lowering the amount of overall games, rather then trying to poke fun at both consoles launch lineups. And yeah, I like my One. I just wish I could play 360 games, since I skipped that generation and you guys forgot to bring some good games to the PC. Somewhere within the bowels of Microsoft you guys better be thinking about porting at least Fable 2, Nuts and Bolts, and ODST/Reach to the One. I'd be even happier if they came to PC as well, but I gave up on support for my favorite platform years ago.
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Chappy posted:As far as being less of a media player, if you were someone who plugged in a USB drive to watch your movies, then yeah, its less. If you're like me and streamed them from your laptop, it works way easier than the 360 did. In windows 7/8 right click the movie, click play-to, then select your Xbox one. Streams perfectly, only thing you have to do is convert mkv to avi. Well no, there's one big thing you have to do you're glossing over. You need to go to your PC to initiate a video. With that the feature is terrible for a lot of users.
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