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Good on the goon who put down "DIG" for the final move. TO THE 'MON, NOT THEIR SOUL
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:ATV finally got the chance to learn Psybeam. Why would ATV need psybeam, his current moveset was enough to beat the leader of the Elite 4 
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Mar 1, 2014 02:14
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ATV don't need no CRUTCH-BEAM
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Mar 1, 2014 02:14
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Exp. All would individually notify you, over multiple lines of text, jpw much stat all six members gained. If my memory of the ten minutes I lasted before ditching it are correct it would have added like fifteen button presses to EVERY POKEMON DEFEATED. Also you get it by catching 50 pokemon so lol no
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Mar 1, 2014 02:15
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And since you can't catch things with a full box it would require switching boxes on the PC.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:15
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This dewgong and drowzee would get along famously, since it clearly is the gatekeeper here.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:16
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I love how ATV has been more useful than Pidgeot
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Dr. Dos posted:And since you can't catch things with a full box it would require switching boxes on the PC. Not if we release them. 
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Hammerite posted:I will buy a forums account upgrade of your choice for the account of your choice if you are the first person to quote this post and correctly predict the number of times Twitch blacks out to the Elite Four or Champion before beating the game 718.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:16
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If only Dewgong had used Rest while Pidgeot was spamming Mirror Move
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I vote 12 blackouts.tiistai posted:If only Dewgong had used Rest while Pidgeot was spamming Mirror Move That would've given it a free turn for Aurora Beam.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:18
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Buh posted:Exp. All would individually notify you, over multiple lines of text, jpw much stat all six members gained. If my memory of the ten minutes I lasted before ditching it are correct it would have added like fifteen button presses to EVERY POKEMON DEFEATED. I don't understand why anyone would use the Exp. items for anything other than powerleveling something like a Magickarp. The games are already piss easy as it is, Exp items throw what little difficulty they do have right out the goddamn window.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:18
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I vote 12 blackouts. That's wildly optimistic, considering we've lost 11 times.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:18
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fits posted:Out of current standings, 5/86 I guess I should've tried for something more mundane and realistic, like Strength/Nidoking/2, or maybe something bizarrely impossible like Solarbeam/Exeggcute/5.
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Esroc posted:I don't understand why anyone would use the Exp. items for anything other than powerleveling something like a Magickarp. The games are already piss easy as it is, Exp items throw what little difficulty they do have right out the goddamn window. When you say 'difficulty' do you mean 'time spent grinding'?
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Mar 1, 2014 02:19
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TheEggsBenedict posted:I love how ATV has been more useful than Pidgeot Keep in mind though, that Bird Jesus was just a small amount of HP away from sweeping Lance's whole team, Dragonite included. They just keep throwing him face first into ice moves because 
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Mar 1, 2014 02:20
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Zoran posted:That's wildly optimistic, considering we've lost 11 times. We have? Last time I was here it was at four.
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Esroc posted:I don't understand why anyone would use the Exp. items for anything other than powerleveling something like a Magickarp. The games are already piss easy as it is, Exp items throw what little difficulty they do have right out the goddamn window. Dude, these guys got stuck at the Viridian Gym for over a day. Because of a ledge. EXP won't help them.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:20
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They really need to teach that Submission to wreck that Dewgong since apparently getting Zapdos up in this fight is impossible.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Dude, these guys got stuck at the Viridian Gym for over a day. Because of a ledge. EXP won't help them. Right now, XP is the main obstacle. They're going to be ramming head on into the enemies until finally they rack up enough XP on the right pokemon that they can push through. It's a relatively slow process and there's a lot of luck involved, but my guess is they'll make it by morning.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:25
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Hammerite posted:I will buy a forums account upgrade of your choice for the account of your choice if you are the first person to quote this post and correctly predict the number of times Twitch blacks out to the Elite Four or Champion before beating the game I guess 45.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:26
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The way Effort Values worked in this generation makes our Pokemon ludicrously strong compared to the AI. Every time you win, you get some EV points, and they top out at 65,535. In gen 3 onwards they're worth 1/256th as much, and have a total cap of 510 - so your Pokemon only get 40% of the gen 1 EV bonus against the AI. Remember, trainer-raised Pokemon are stronger than wild ones, but in Red and Blue every single Elite Four Pokemon acts as though it was just caught in the wild at that level.
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Random Stranger posted:Right now, XP is the main obstacle. They're going to be ramming head on into the enemies until finally they rack up enough XP on the right pokemon that they can push through. It's a relatively slow process and there's a lot of luck involved, but my guess is they'll make it by morning. I don't think so. They could probably beat the E4 right now if Zapdos was at the top of the party and they got lucky enough to send out something else against Bruno.
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JimTheEternal posted:When you say 'difficulty' do you mean 'time spent grinding'? Nah. It's just that assuming that you don't switch your team around all the time, whenever I've played I've always been between ten and twenty levels over the Elite Four by the time I got to them without any grinding. Other than romhacks I've never fought the Elite Four and been unable to sweep them entirely while only using three Pokémon the entire time while the other three sit at the back of my lineup twiddling their thumbs. Exp. Share and Exp. All make that even worse.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:27
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Lord Helix, noooooo!! If only he had withdrawn more...
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Mar 1, 2014 02:27
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thing is, being stuck on the Elite Four is at least entertaining. Every time you check in, something exciting is happening. Unfortunately, usually that exciting thing is ATV accidentally getting switched in, using Disable three times, then dying.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:27
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Having Zapdos literally anywhere else in the list would be better.
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So um if it comes down to ATV vs Dragonite again and we manage to paralyse rather than poison it, it will have enough health to survive ALL of our leech lives and will never fight back. Our only option will be to use up all our PP and then struggle. Because of his worthless moves ATV has ONE HUNDRED total PP. Dragonite's is infinite. Please let this happen 
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Mar 1, 2014 02:28
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Ogmius815 posted:Having Zapdos literally anywhere else in the list would be better. While this is true, our desperado runs are way more entertaining when it's a powerful Pokemon.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:29
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We only have Zapdos left. Time to wipe to bruno 
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Mar 1, 2014 02:29
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That didn't work so well last time. We are going to witness two losses to Bruno in the same day.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:The way Effort Values worked in this generation makes our Pokemon ludicrously strong compared to the AI. Every time you win, you get some EV points, and they top out at 65,535. In gen 3 onwards they're worth 1/256th as much, and have a total cap of 510 - so your Pokemon only get 40% of the gen 1 EV bonus against the AI. Remember, trainer-raised Pokemon are stronger than wild ones, but in Red and Blue every single Elite Four Pokemon acts as though it was just caught in the wild at that level. Stat XP wasn't worth 256 times the value of EVs in later games. The formula for points added to a stat by Stat XP was √{Stat XP}/4, rounded down, which maxed out at 63. Every trainer in every game (outside of the Battle Tower equivalents) has had no EVs; all their Pokémon are effectively wild-caught.
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I'm not really good with Pokemon. What, if Zapdos faints, would be the pokemon that can defeat Gary?
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Mar 1, 2014 02:32
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Well this is my stop. Don't beat the game while I'm gone (next 24 hours).
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Mar 1, 2014 02:33
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So in Pokemon, free-range is objectively worse?
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toanoradian posted:I'm not really good with Pokemon. What, if Zapdos faints, would be the pokemon that can defeat Gary? Any of them really, with a little luck. Although Venomoth and Lapras definitely have the worst odds, due to garbage movesets and low levels.
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Mar 1, 2014 02:34
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If Zapdos were to beat Bruno's last Pokemon with Take Down, and then die from recoil, what would happen?
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toanoradian posted:I'm not really good with Pokemon. What, if Zapdos faints, would be the pokemon that can defeat Gary? DUX. Leering infinitely.
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Dark Grapefruit posted:If Zapdos were to beat Bruno's last Pokemon with Take Down, and then die from recoil, what would happen? We lose.
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Zoran posted:Stat XP wasn't worth 256 times the value of EVs in later games. The formula for points added to a stat by Stat XP was √{Stat XP}/4, rounded down, which maxed out at 63. OK, I was wrong about StatXP, but I guess the maximum value is the same for StatXP and EVs. quote:Every trainer in every game (outside of the Battle Tower equivalents) has had no EVs; all their Pokémon are effectively wild-caught. That's almost true, except for movesets. I had no idea the later games kept up the no EVs for trainers though, I thought modern systems could handle that. toanoradian posted:I'm not really good with Pokemon. What, if Zapdos faints, would be the pokemon that can defeat Gary? Hypothetically, Bird Jesus or Omastar would be up to the task.
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