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Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Dustbowl 2-1 I have trouble explosive jumping up to the point sometimes because I hit the skybox. One explosive should not be enough to hit the skybox.

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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Somebody was complaining on a Valve server earlier about getting teamswitched to the losing side, this was a response to his asking why it happened:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Trade offers is the best thing Valve ever added, because it lets you trade without having to actually talk to the terrible people who make up the TF2 community. :v:

Re skyboxes, Sawmill has an annoying bug where the skybox is lower in some areas, like if you sticky jump from the spawn balcony towards the enemy side lake at certain angles you hit an invisible wall in the skybox just before the mill entrance.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

What I don't understand is why do I feel like I'm hitting my head on the ceiling in that one tunnel in dustbowl stage 3.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Dang, the price on earbuds has gone up over the last few years? So how would I go about selling mine for real-world money? I assume it'll be a bit difficult since I don't have a history so people will have no reason to trust me, while I also want to be suitably cautious.

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 7, 2014

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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rodbeard posted:

What I don't understand is why do I feel like I'm hitting my head on the ceiling in that one tunnel in dustbowl stage 3.

That tunnel is really weird.

Every time I go through it it feels like I bump into a cloaked spy.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
TF2Maps made a new map theme that takes the Gravel Wars to somewhere the Half-Zatoichi can finally feel at home...

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

Ditocoaf posted:

Dang, the price on earbuds has gone up over the last few years? So how would I go about selling mine for real-world money? I assume it'll be a bit difficult since I don't have a history so people will have no reason to trust me, while I also want to be suitably cautious.

Go talk to the captain. (Captain Invictus, who posts here, he brokers deals for other players. He's a good guy. He has a SA-Mart thread here.)

Orange Harrison
Feb 24, 2010

All through the day, I me mine

Collateral Damage posted:

Trade offers is the best thing Valve ever added, because it lets you trade without having to actually talk to the terrible people who make up the TF2 community. :v:

I still get random direct trade offers in-game (The "X would like to trade with you" kind) sometimes when I join a server and trot out an eye catching item or something.
Whenever I get a random invite I accept it and then tab back into the game, seeing how long the player screams in text chat for me to answer him or until steam auto-closes the trade due to timeout.
They just keep. On. Yelling.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

The Kins posted:

TF2Maps made a new map theme that takes the Gravel Wars to somewhere the Half-Zatoichi can finally feel at home...



I remember a year ago I found a medieval payload map with this tileset, and it really was pretty. I hope more maps really do come of this.

Simsmagic
Aug 3, 2011

im beautiful



Anyone else having trouble downloading the pack from tf2maps? It seems like every time I try I get told I'm downloading things too quickly, and when I try a minute later the timer resets.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Does anyone else think trading for regular weapons is weird? I see people in games asking about stuff like The Original or Huntsman and getting replies like "2 scrap". I usually just open a trade and gift it to the person, but I see so many people trying to get 2 weapons for 1 or scrap for a regular gun. Why?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Market forces at work. The value of any weapon is 1/2 scrap. However the value of a specific weapon would be more especially for something like the original which are desired by lots of people, but drop at the same rate as something in low demand like the kritzkrieg.

ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 7, 2014

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

2 scrap for a gun has been the standard price for as long as trading has been in the game. It's one of the few things that hasn't changed with the times.

The "value" is that the guy who is receiving the gun doesn't have to wait for Valve's RNG to hand it to them, and the seller gets a bit of profit.

STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS
Oct 12, 2012

So I ended up getting a cheap crafty hair for my scout load out, and it turns out it had a bunch of halloween spells on it, including the one that lets it flash between green, yellow and brown. It is incredibly ugly but it goes well with the load out! Kind of makes me think of Cyclops with a terrible hairdo.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Peanut President posted:

I usually just open a trade and gift it to the person, but I see so many people trying to get 2 weapons for 1 or scrap for a regular gun. Why?
I usually just point people to scrap.tf. :shobon:

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Man, i bought a Freezecam Taunts strange parts, and it turns out it only works for cosmetics. That kinda sucks.

It would suck less if they actually got around to making a Something Special For Someone Special Strangifier though.

Cybershell
Jun 12, 2007

I hold all of you in the highest contempt

Freak Futanari posted:

Man, i bought a Freezecam Taunts strange parts, and it turns out it only works for cosmetics. That kinda sucks.

That's funny the exact same thing happened to me last night. Kind of sucks but w/e I finally got a strange cosmetic because of it.

Also this is probably the thousandth time someone has brought this up but if I could make one tiny little tweak to this game I would take away the ability for miniguns to randomly crit. It's so frustrating as pyro when you're trying to land your fourth flare on a heavy at long distance and all of a sudden his stream of minigun bullets turns into a sniper laser of death

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
I hate crits until the moment I airblast reflect a crit rocket and blow up the attacking soldier. Then for a brief moment I love crits.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Charles Bukowski posted:

I hate crits until the moment I airblast reflect a crit rocket and blow up the attacking soldier. Then for a brief moment I love crits.

Then you start to hate crits again when a gibus/pyrovision scout with 368 ping gliding around the map kills you from 30 feet away with a random scattergun crit.

kaleidoscopic
Feb 11, 2008

let go your earthly tether
enter the void
empty, and become wind
y4 bl0w

Cybershell posted:

That's funny the exact same thing happened to me last night. Kind of sucks but w/e I finally got a strange cosmetic because of it.

Also this is probably the thousandth time someone has brought this up but if I could make one tiny little tweak to this game I would take away the ability for miniguns to randomly crit. It's so frustrating as pyro when you're trying to land your fourth flare on a heavy at long distance and all of a sudden his stream of minigun bullets turns into a sniper laser of death

i don't see why this would be more frustrating than dying to any other crit? i guess rockets might be slightly less frustrating because you have a chance to airblast them, but every hitscan gun turns into a laser of death when it crits

kaleidoscopic fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 8, 2014

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Most Sniper-Heavies that I encounter are new players who panic when they're set on fire and duck away when I hit them with a flare hammering the MEDIC! button, so I never even really try to hit them with 4 flares in a row.

Cybershell
Jun 12, 2007

I hold all of you in the highest contempt

kaleidoscopic posted:

i don't see why this would be more frustrating than dying to any other crit? i guess rockets might be slightly less frustrating because you have a chance to airblast them, but every hitscan gun turns into a laser of death when it crits

Yeah but you aren't going to die from a critical shotgun blast across the map because it's just one shot (and then it spreads out obviously) but miniguns roll for the chance to have crits for two FULL seconds which means they can easily get long range kills with it. I guess the pistol can do this too but you generally don't see people getting critical pistol kills across battlements on 2fort

Cybershell fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Mar 8, 2014

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


kaleidoscopic posted:

i don't see why this would be more frustrating than dying to any other crit? i guess rockets might be slightly less frustrating because you have a chance to airblast them, but every hitscan gun turns into a laser of death when it crits

I think the minigun is singled out a lot for the sheer volume of fire it puts out. a shotgun getting a crit has it for one shot and the pellets spread and weapons like the pistol and SMG can hit critstreaks near the end of their magazine, but a minigun can hit a critstreak at any point of its fire and produce an uninterrupted cone of boosted no-falloff damage without even the range restriction of the flamethrower. It's the perfect storm of frustrating crit death because it's the strengths of all other hitscan weapons with none of their drawbacks.

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Midnight Raider posted:

I remember a year ago I found a medieval payload map with this tileset, and it really was pretty. I hope more maps really do come of this.

Pretty sure that was different from this. There's been a ton of Japan-themed maps but the assets at work here are way more recent and haven't been put into a payload map before. This stuff was all put together for an Arena/KOTH map called Suijin, which is linked at the bottom of the content pack and is pretty nifty. This is more or less a public release of the map's assets (with some neat new stuff too).

The more you know!

kaleidoscopic
Feb 11, 2008

let go your earthly tether
enter the void
empty, and become wind
y4 bl0w

Cybershell posted:

Yeah but you aren't going to die from a critical shotgun blast across the map because it's just one shot (and then it spreads out obviously) but miniguns roll for the chance to have crits for two FULL seconds which means they can easily get long range kills with it. I guess the pistol can do this too but you generally don't see people getting critical pistol kills across battlements on 2fort

are you saying that people regularly get kills as heavy across the battlements on 2fort? i find that a little hard to believe given all of the cover available

Reiley posted:

I think the minigun is singled out a lot for the sheer volume of fire it puts out. a shotgun getting a crit has it for one shot and the pellets spread and weapons like the pistol and SMG can hit critstreaks near the end of their magazine, but a minigun can hit a critstreak at any point of its fire and produce an uninterrupted cone of boosted no-falloff damage without even the range restriction of the flamethrower. It's the perfect storm of frustrating crit death because it's the strengths of all other hitscan weapons with none of their drawbacks.

well the drawback is being unable to move much while firing, so if i were to shoot 4 flares at a heavy (which literally never happens) i would probably be peeking in and out of cover

kaleidoscopic fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Mar 8, 2014

falconry
Oct 9, 2012

The Kins posted:

TF2Maps made a new map theme that takes the Gravel Wars to somewhere the Half-Zatoichi can finally feel at home...



I could behind playing in a map that looked like this. Looks very refreshing compared to deserts and industrial complexes.

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

Collateral Damage posted:

I usually just point people to scrap.tf. :shobon:

I have tried, oh how I've tried, to get people to use this site. For some reason most of the time people cry that they can't understand it or that they can never get it to work. I have no idea why. Same thing with tf2wh.com when they are complaining about hats they want to get rid of but don't want to spend the time trading and searching for a buyer.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

I have tried, oh how I've tried, to get people to use this site. For some reason most of the time people cry that they can't understand it or that they can never get it to work. I have no idea why. Same thing with tf2wh.com when they are complaining about hats they want to get rid of but don't want to spend the time trading and searching for a buyer.

That scrap.tf usually has long waits and tf2wh usually is overstocked on most things doesn't help.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

I have tried, oh how I've tried, to get people to use this site. For some reason most of the time people cry that they can't understand it or that they can never get it to work. I have no idea why. Same thing with tf2wh.com when they are complaining about hats they want to get rid of but don't want to spend the time trading and searching for a buyer.
It being its whole own website is kinda intimidating, as well as what the different banking systems do and how the bots work. I know that the first time I went to it I got confused and didn't go back for a bit.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

I just went to an old dustbowl server to check out some of the updates. I found out two things:

1. I am better than before, but that's like saying I went from dreadfully awful to pretty bad.
2. People in unusuals HATE being taunted and it's hilarious.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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So it looks like there's some new hack that exploits a server bug and makes it impossible to kick the person using the hack by disabling the "Yes" option in votekicks.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

MvM talk: Valve should really include an additional upgrade path for the soldier backpacks that increases their effective range. It would make them more useful in the later waves, and it shouldn't be that hard considering all they have to do is already done with the dispenser range upgrade.

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

falconry posted:

I could behind playing in a map that looked like this. Looks very refreshing compared to deserts and industrial complexes.

There already is a finished map that looks like that! Scroll to the bottom and click those download links. Suijin's pretty neato.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Lets reenact the 47 ronin on the Suijin map for funhavers.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

nerdbot posted:

There already is a finished map that looks like that! Scroll to the bottom and click those download links. Suijin's pretty neato.

Just a word of warning: last I checked (granted the was a while ago) the map is pretty badly optimized. Yes it's full of new assets but it's still a 100 MB bsp, or 50 MB bsp.bz2. All the roofs are made out of corrugated polygons so they're like a billion polys each, and I don't know if she ever put LODs on them to turn them into flat sheets when you get far enough away.

What I'm saying is if you don't have a beastly computer, you might get framerate issues. I haven't played it since the buildings got textured, but this is the same person who made pl_escarpment, so if that map gives you performance troubles, I'd watch out. Don't get me wrong though, it's a gorgeous map and it's a ton of fun to play in, so you probably should download it anyway because I'd bet it's going to come up on servers a lot.

UPDATE: just played it and got ~30 fps, vs ~40 fps on Badwater (yes my computer's not great). It's definitely taxing but I think it's better than Escarpment.

Abyssal Squid fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 8, 2014

FanofPortals
Sep 22, 2006

BILL FILLMAFF'S GREATEST DISAPPOINTMENT
Hatte collector Gorror just bought a burning KE for 300 buds pure (plus the #1 craft KE for 100 buds pure)

:stare:

concerned mom
Apr 22, 2003

by Lowtax
Grimey Drawer
How much is that in real money?

FanofPortals
Sep 22, 2006

BILL FILLMAFF'S GREATEST DISAPPOINTMENT

concerned mom posted:

How much is that in real money?

about $14,000

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falconry
Oct 9, 2012

FanofPortals posted:

about $14,000

Jesus goddamn Christ :stare:

I was under the impression that the Team Captain was the most valuable unusual hat. I suppose the value in the Killer Exclusive is that it's also all-class and that there's only 3 burning flames versions of it as opposed to the TC's 8? Perhaps I'm thinking way too much into the minds of hatte barons.

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