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TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Dreggon posted:

Unless he was lying about that :tinfoil:

So basically, he had a poison ready to kill our hero, but after he got it injected into himself first, he was thinking quick enough to end up with a story about it being a truth serum and using that to instill false information on Rukov (and the player)? drat, that's hardcore.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



TheMcD posted:

So basically, he had a poison ready to kill our hero, but after he got it injected into himself first, he was thinking quick enough to end up with a story about it being a truth serum and using that to instill false information on Rukov (and the player)? drat, that's hardcore.

If that's the case why not just shoot him anyways? Why the pantomime?

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

bunnyofdoom posted:

If that's the case why not just shoot him anyways? Why the pantomime?

Because the KGB clearly works in mysterious ways. Alternatively, because this is an adventure game, and that kind of dick move would be right up their alley.

Rogue AI Goddess
May 10, 2012

I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

TheMcD posted:

So basically, he had a poison ready to kill our hero, but after he got it injected into himself first, he was thinking quick enough to end up with a story about it being a truth serum and using that to instill false information on Rukov (and the player)? drat, that's hardcore.
Easily verifiable: just reload, get injected and see if we can lie.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

He was remarkably lucid for sodium pentothal, too.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Dreggon posted:

Unless he was lying about that :tinfoil:

From Wikipedia,

quote:

The drug tends to make subjects loquacious and cooperative with interrogators; however, the reliability of confessions made under thiopental is questionable.

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

He was remarkably lucid for sodium pentothal, too.

Progressive Soviet engineering, Comrade!

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So there are, in fact, multiple independent conspiracies? Ain't that a thing.

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!
Update 28 Bonus



As you can probably guess, if you didn't switch back to voice-activated mode, or you didn't take the headphones off:

I'm ready to talk, comrade.



No matter what option we choose:

Something tells me you're stalling, Rukov.



This puzzle pretty much assumes that the player is killed by Chapkin at least once, because there isn't any warning to switch the recorder to voice-activated. Fortunately, they can't save during this sequence. That means the player can't get stuck in one of those unwinnable situations where they overwrite their only save. Presumably, they've already learned to save often in KGB, and in multiple slots.



Some other deaths:





You decide to attack him:





You decide to make a dive for the window:







Believe it or not, there's a gun pointing at you!
I could say the same thing about you, comrade.


He has the same response for 'You're mistaking me for someone else, comrade!' and 'You're making a grave mistake.'

--or--

It's too late, Chapkin. We have the proof!
It's never too late, Rukov, except where you're concerned.

Chapkin clubs you with his gun. Then you're answering questions. Then you die.



If you hide the recorder somewhere in the bathroom, and then say talk:








You explain to him it's just the recorder. :downs:



The bottom three options all lead to the same death.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
What kind of Spetsnaz starts talking after a single pistol whipping?

Edit: Oh right, truth serum. Does it never actually say he injected you?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
I'm tallying this one as another 'read my mind' death, because holy poo poo how the hell were you supposed to sniff that one out prior to having a gun in your face?

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!

Coolguye posted:

I'm tallying this one as another 'read my mind' death, because holy poo poo how the hell were you supposed to sniff that one out prior to having a gun in your face?

I'm with you on this one. The solution to this puzzle is kind of cool - it reminds me of the legendary puzzle in the text adventure game Spider and Web. However, the game doesn't offer you a single hint that Chapkin might attack you tonight, or any hints to switch your recorder to voice-activated mode beforehand. There's no way for a first-time player to be ready for it.

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

paragon1 posted:

Edit: Oh right, truth serum. Does it never actually say he injected you?

Don't think it did, but it makes sense it didn't - that would kind of spoil the surprise of injecting him in a correct playthrough. That and I bet it's a mini-obstacle that he won't talk if you don't inject him.

Dancer
May 23, 2011
BTW I would've expected to see this in the update 28 bonus, but it's not there, so: are you gonna show us what happens if you don't inject the serum? Do you just kill him with the suppressed pistol without learning anything?

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

red mammoth posted:

I'm with you on this one. The solution to this puzzle is kind of cool - it reminds me of the legendary puzzle in the text adventure game Spider and Web. However, the game doesn't offer you a single hint that Chapkin might attack you tonight, or any hints to switch your recorder to voice-activated mode beforehand. There's no way for a first-time player to be ready for it.

Once you mentioned that the player had a voice activated mode I knew that this solution would show up in some way, of course there seems to be nothing suggesting when it would be comings. Although, I figured it would have happened in the opposite way, you placing it before hand to make it seems like you had backup or something when talking to someone.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Had sodium pentathol come in pills, we'd still be using it. And, at the very least, it actually produces a measurable reaction that can approximate the compulsion to confess. More than "lie detectors" have going for them.

Deathwind
Mar 3, 2013

Sodium thiopental (the generic name for sodium pentothal) never really worked as a truth serum any better than alcohol, in fact you are more likely to get accurate information from a drunk. That said the lethality of it isn't in doubt, it was a common drug used for executions until the EU stopped exporting it.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009
Does this mean we arent getting an update?

Sharp_angus
Aug 10, 2005

I just love the game. I can't get enough of hackey!

wjs5 posted:

Does this mean we arent getting an update?

Red mammoth is contemplating his life's decisions thus far from his guard post on an ice floe in the arctic.

tinkerttoy
Dec 30, 2013

by XyloJW

wjs5 posted:

Does this mean we arent getting an update?

Patience, comrade.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



The Russian criminal brotherhood.

You may have heard of them "The Russian mafia". Which is a very rough simplification - the New Russians, roughly synonymous with modern Russian organized crime don't really uphold the old-timey codes and traditions, while the old-school gangsters can't really form proper organized crime gangs precisely because of these rules...

Ok, let's back this one up a bit. The old fashioned Russian criminals are unlike the Mafia in so far as they aren't organized in families or clans (ethnic criminal groups possibly excepted). They are alike in so far as they are all supposed to follow the criminal code. In fact, hierarchy is rather diffuse - but all too pervasive. You may not be member of a particular organization, you may not have a "rank", but whenever you arrive in a new town, you are expected to arrange a meeting with the locals, give them an idea as to what kind of "specialist" you are, and prove that you know and respect the unwritten rules - "the understandings" that were reached over the decades. There is a fairly large and inflexible code of thief conduct - but please abandon any ideas about noble or honorable thieves (even though that's one possible translation of what they call themselves). Like all criminal codes, it's mostly concerned with butchering shearing the sheep and keeping the peace amongst the wolves. A criminal who is never caught breaking the code, and puts in his time, may become a "Thief in Law" - often translated as a "Godfather" equivalent. But a "Vor v Zakone" may not lead a large gang or even have any "proper" subordinates (again, a different and more diffuse hierarchy) - he is merely a particularly respected member of the underworld community. You can even buy this rank, though such a title will only carry certain formal privileges, rather than proper authority.

If there is a certain positive side to the code, it is the prejudice against casual murder. A man who resorts to wet-work for no good reason may be feared, but not respected. It only takes so much mindless killing to be labelled as one "frozen solid" - an outlaw among outlaws, a man who respects neither the law of the state nor that of criminals. Immoral and depraved even by underworld standards, such a man is guided only be immediate greed, and may well be hunted down by his former comrades for their own safety. Kinda like The Beast in VTM, when you think about it.

Beyond the obvious and expected aspects of that code, the most striking aspect is probably the fact that an "honest" thief can't ever cooperate with The State. No, I said beyond the obvious. When interrogated by a representative of The State (whether a policeman, a psychiatrist or a social worker equivalent), he is obliged to declare himself a thief (a synecdochic signifier in criminal culture which encompasses any number of criminal paths), proclaim his indomitable hatred for The State, and refuse to answer further questions. He never registers with the state in any capacity, nor signs any documents - he cannot obtain a legal dwelling in his own name, get married or have a proper job, even as a cover. When in jail, he cannot be a part of the penal labor force, regardless of the repercussions (though in a "well run" jail, the "professional" criminals, as opposed to the civilians who went to jail for a single offense, will not be asked to work by the prison administration to begin with). An illustrative anecdote - if a previously "honest" thief is asked to ring a bell in order to announce that dinner is served, the moment his hand grasps the bell, he is a "bitch", a collaborator with the authorities, and his end will be swift and merciless.

During WWII The Great Patriotic War, when it looked as though Russia may be overwhelmed and wiped out, a great thieves meeting was called, where many members argued for suspending their struggle against the state for the duration of the war. Though the assembly at large decided against it, many a professional criminal went out and signed up for the army - used to form the penal battalions which would "wipe away their shame with blood". Their own blood, for the most part, as the penal battalions would naturally be used to attack the most dangerous spots, and would be shot if they tried to run. Still, quite a few survived and even prospered - apparently some criminal skills and luck actually made them into exemplary fighting men. After the end of the war, these (often highly decorated) veterans weren't really trained in a proper profession (and of course, many of them had no desire to work for a living regardless), and soon wound up right back in jail. This marked the beginning of the "bitch" wars, where the "honest" thief population eventually exterminated the "traitors".

Guess what broke down in the 90's? If you've been following my posts, you'll know that the answer is "everything". The criminal code included. You can't have an organized crime... err... organization... if you're not cooperating with the state. You can't call yourself "a legitimate businessman" if you can't even pretend to be an honest worker. You can't maintain a disdain for murder when contract killings are the usual way of settling business disagreements. A great many of the New Russians who rose to short prominence were bright university kids who cooperated with or employed former military or security personnel (all anathema to the old-schoolers) and made cash hand over fist (for the short time they had at the top before a rival disposed of them). Being a "frozen" criminal who utterly disregarded the old ways and killed indiscriminately was the shortest path to success.

Though the wild days of the 90's are behind us, and most of the criminal class from that days are resting in their graves / parliament seats, I doubt that the code will ever be reestablished in a meaningful way. It's far too restrictive, even for the new authoritarian Russia.

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 11:14 on May 8, 2014

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
All that, and not a single New Russian joke? I am disappointed.

The New Russians are stereotypically represented as people with more money than sense. They suddenly came into their fortunes, and have no idea what to do with them, so various anecdotes tend to be about them buying gold chains, garish clothes, cars (they favour the "Mercedes 600"), and various overpriced Western doodads. All in dollars, of course.

Now their children, these are the ones with business sense.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
I remember that the Pavel Lungin film "Oligarkh" had one such joke. It went something like this:

One New Russian shows his new tie to another:
- See this tie? I paid 3000 dollars for it.
- You got scammed. I saw them offering an identical one for 5000.

Covski
Jun 24, 2007

Bringing the forums together with the greatest thread!
Speaking of russian criminals and movies, has any of you seen Zhmurki? (Dead Man's Bluff in english)

It takes place in the russian underworld in the early nineties, after the fall of the Soviet union. I enjoyed it a lot, even though much of the references to russian 90's action movies as well as the apparent all-star cast is lost one me. I would love if someone could elaborate a bit on this. It's also by far the most brutal and gruesome movie I've ever seen listed as a "comedy" on IMBd. :ohdear:

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I've made a post about Perestroika films in another thread but the average Russian 90's action movie looked something like this.

Sources of inspiration at the time? Probably this ("Rape and revenge" wasn't a genre in Soviet times, for obvious reasons) or this.

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!
Sorry for yet another long delay. I've been busy with college and stuff.

Update 29 – The Truth



Well, I certainly learned a lot from that little chat. Savinkov will be here any minute, but I don't think I can trust him. After all, he was meeting with Agabekov. Well, probably. Savinkov's not the only man who smokes Cuban cigars. It could have been somebody else. Maybe I'm just getting paranoid.



We switch on the light.



We pick up everything off the bed.

That camera may have been a piece of junk, but this recorder has served me well. I'll make sure to thank Guzenko the next time I see him.

7:00 AM

Savinkov arrives right on time.



Everything in order, I trust?



He comes back, dragging Chapkin.




Yes, indeed, comrade major.



I used a lethal truth-drug, meant for me, on Chapkin.
Spare me the details, Rukov. I want to know WHAT you learned, not how.
Chapkin admitted the gangster Savchenko was his agent.
So Kusnetsov and the gang boss use Savchenko and Chapkin as intermediaries. It's what I thought. Kusnetsov keeps his hands clean! Go on.
I was approached by an American agent.
Fascinating. Unfortunately, we cannot trust what they may have told you. I need concrete facts, Rukov. Not wild goose chases!
Chapkin said the warehouse gang are importing crack.
What else did you discover?
Chapkin admitted Kusnetsov plans stealing the crack shipment.
Now, that's the kind of information I'm looking for. Keep talking.
I'm starting to think Savinkov is more interested in nailing Kusnetsov than in taking down this criminal conspiracy.
Chapkin admitted Kusnetsov and Agabekov dislike each other.
A somewhat partisan appraisal. Kusnetsov is clearly uncomfortable with a brilliant and honest officer in his department! Go on.
Brilliant and honest, my rear end. Maybe I was right before. Maybe Savinkov and Agabekov really did meet.
Chapkin said Kusnetsov takes criminal pay-offs.
We knew that. What else?
Chapkin said he didn't send the killers.
Savikov: In his place, I'd have said the same thing! Continue.
I don't know about that. Chapkin said a lot of things he didn't have to say. I think he was telling the truth about not sending the killers. Unless the vial was actually full of poison, and he pretended it was a truth serum so he could send me off on the wrong direction. If he were tricky enough to pull off something like that, I would actually gain a lot of respect for the bastard.
Chapkin said Viktor Matsnev is the boat that the gang's crack is coming in on, Sunday morning.
What else did you discover?
The biggest lead we have so far, and Savinkov doesn't care a bit. He's more concerned with Kusnetsov's petty crimes. Well, I'll give him what he wants.
Kusnetsov's going to kill the gang boss at the warehouse tonight.
That's it! That's what we've been waiting for! Continue.
I learned nothing more, comrade major.



I've brought you a camera to replace the broken one. It's precisely similar, except that it works. We need photographs of everything Kusnetsov does!
Kusnetsov? Kusnetsov's not relevant to this case! The only thing that matters right now is getting on that boat.
Stay here this morning and relax. You deserve some rest! I'll come at 1:30. If I can't make it, then go to the warehouse in the afternoon. “Tonight” could be anything from lunchtime to tomorrow morning, especially now that Chapkin's dead. Report to me here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. Oh, I think you'd better do something about that body.



I'll leave the recorder with you, Rukov. A recording of Kusnetsov gloating over his crimes will prove invaluable.



You deny all knowledge of the gun.

Please don't force me to hunt around for it, Rukov. I realize that as an ex-Spetsnaz man, you feel more comfortable with a weapon, but your work for us must be discreet. Hand it over.
Maybe he has a point there. I still don't trust him.



He leaves.

Well, time for another nap.




Huh, what time is it? 10:15? drat, I slept late. I have to meet Cut-throat in about 45 minutes. Now I have to get rid of Chapkin's body.



To hell with it. I'll just stick him in the closet and figure out what to do with him later.

Let's check out the new camera Savinkov gave us.

Inspect the camera
A recent western model with an integrated flash.

It's certainly a lot fancier than my old camera.





We head down to the alleyway to wait for Cut-throat.

10:30 AM




It's the same drunk who was loitering in the alley behind the hotel last night.

I wonder where his friend went.
Hello, again.
Indeed.
Nice morning.
Isn't it though?
You can read?
A citizen's sacred duty, comrade!
What's in the news?
A very interesting edition indeed, professor. You should read it!
Anybody else pass this way just now?
I just arrived, professor.
He should be gone soon enough.

10:56 AM



Cut-throat still hasn't showed. He could be waiting for me to clear out the bum. Unless...
Cut-throat?
Might that be one of your secret spy passwords, General? Let me see now... The hunter's moon rises over the Himalayas. No, clearly not the right answer.

Talk about...being a down and out
It's a job for life.

Talk about...the political outlook
Every cloud has an acid lining, as they say.

Talk about...the price of vodka
Shocking, professor. Times are hard for the drinking man.

Talk about...newspapers
I like thick ones: they keep you warm at night. This one's very interesting, your highness. You should read it!

Ask for...a drink
Alas, professor, I can't help you.

Ask for...some money
Aren't you confusing our respective roles, professor?

Ask for...a piece of advice
Just make sure that whatever goes wrong is never your fault. And take an interest in the truth.

The truth? This guy is starting to sound like Cut-throat. He's reading Pravda (“Truth” in Russian). I think he wants me to read it.

Ask for...the newspaper
I haven't read it yet! Nevertheless, I may be persuaded to part with it...in exchange for something of yours.
I'm KGB. Here's my ID.
You told me that last night, General.
Give me that newspaper, comrade.
Give it to you?! Really, General, you must think in new ways! I'll exchange it for something of yours.
Okay. What can I give him? My rubles, maybe?

We try to give it to him, but...

I have no use for that, professor. Thank you all the same.

He doesn't want our dollars either.

Maybe the fancy new camera Savinkov gave me? Giving it to the down-and-out would mean I couldn't complete my mission to take down Kusnetsov. However, I have no intention of completing it anyway.
Now I can pretend to be a tourist! Here's your paper, professor. Time for my stroll, professor. Keep your chin up, now.

He gives us his copy of Pravda, and then leaves.



I hope it was worth it.

Inspect Pravda
As you leaf through today's edition of Pravda, your eye is attracted to a lengthy article on the Baltic fishing quota upswing: some letters have been underlined to form a short message which, when decoded, reads: “Be in the phone booth in front of your hotel at eleven fifteen.”

Thanks for completing the puzzle for me, game.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Fantastic, this LP is back. This rules.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Good to see you back to decadent pleasure seeking, comrade!

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Man, the return of the camera was just a troll. Beautiful.

Tetrakarn
Nov 1, 2011
The camera has an integrated flash, there would be some dumb thing where you could never use it because it alerts everyone ever to your presence.

David Copperfield
Mar 14, 2004


im david copperfield
Let's be honest, every piece of equipment given or not given is a dick move. The audio recorder that plays back when you say "talk," can mess you up, except for the one batshit time you need that to save your life.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I can't believe he just took a nap with a dead guy in the room. Dude is ice cold.

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!
Update 29 Bonus



Savinkov

One more thing... I can't imagine Chapkin coming without a gun. Give it to me, please.

You hand over the gun.

Thank you. Your work doesn't necessitate the use of a firearm and I would hate to imagine the consequences if you decided to start eliminating our enemies one by one, in true Spetsnaz style.



When revealing information to Savinkov, there's a lot of things you can say. The only thing you really need to say is that Kusnetsov is going to kill the warehouse boss. I cut some things out, to keep it short.

Chapkin was making money from prostitutes.
Tell me more.
Chapkin had a secret room for filming clients.
Tell me more.
Chapkin may have been making snuff movies.
Tell me more.
Chapkin admitted to using a room to spy on foreigners.
Continue.
Room 304 is used by one of Chapkin's prostitutes.
Go on.
Chapkin admitted to running a prostitution ring.
Go on.
Chapkin said the Syevyernaya Zvyezda was his territory.
Continue.
Chapkin said Yakuchev's the link with the Moscow gang.
What else did you discover?



If you knock out Chapkin and wait too long:



Well, well! A little cramped for a three-way conference; let's get him into the bedroom.



Who have we got here? Why, it's comrade Chapkin. He appears to be coming to his senses.



So, my friend. An errand-boy's life is not an easy one.
My father-in-law knows where I am, so back off!



Even if that were true, it would do you little good, errand boy!




Rukov! How dare you permit a prisoner to run wild! He could have killed me! Thanks to your incompetence, I was forced to liquidate him to save my own life! I sincerely hope you extracted some information from him.

If this happens, you don't have enough information to appease Savinkov, and you get a game over.



Are you starting a collection, Rukov? Let me see... Comrade Chapkin! Not at all surprising. Did he tell you anything interesting before passing away?
He refused to answer my questions.
A pity. Well, our suspicions about Kusnetsov seem to have been confirmed. Chapkin clearly intended to eliminate you.
I imagine you learned something damaging at the hotel Syevyernaya Zvyezda, yes?
Yes, indeed, comrade major.



No matter what you tell him:

That's not without interest. But tell me this: what's Kusnetsov planning? Where? When? Did you learn that much?



All options result in:

As much as I thought! You learned nothing. When Kusnetsov doesn't see Chapkin come back, he'll delay whatever he's up to. We've lost any hope of nailing him. Return to Moscow, Rukov!




If you say you're meeting with Cut-throat, but you didn't tell him about Cut-throat earlier:

Cut-throat? Who the hell is Cut-throat? You've clearly been plotting behind my back, Rukov. Return to Moscow. My report will follow. If I were you, I'd start racking my brains for some plausible explanations.

If you say you're meeting with Cut-throat, and you did tell him about Cut-throat earlier:

Your precious Cut-throat! Haven't you worked it out yet? He's a plant, a classic bluff from Kusnetsov to throw dust in your eyes.

—or--

I imagine you learned something damaging at the hotel Syevyernaya Zvyezda, yes?
I'm afraid not, comrade major.
I see. So, you discovered nothing at all. And now you botch an excellent opportunity to interrogate Kusnetsov's lackey! We have nothing to act on, no way of cornering Kusnetsov before he realizes Chapkin's disappeared! You've sabotaged the mission, Rukov. Return to Moscow at once.



Once again, many things can go wrong when you're disposing of Chapkin's body.
If you dump his body out the window:





apprehended. You spend some time at the district Militia station. Your superiors arrange for your transfer to KGB custody. A full investigation is under way. The outlook is troubled.



If you drag his body out of your room:





You spend some time at the district Militia station. Your superiors arrange for your transfer to KGB custody. A full investigation is under way. The outlook is troubled.



If we leave the body out in the open, go outside, and come back into the hotel, the militia are waiting.

That's him! He's the one!




Just left the poor man where he lay! Thinks he can do what he wants!

You get the same game over text as the two above.

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!
Update 30 – Two Meetings

11:15 AM

We are waiting by the phone booth when suddenly the phone rings.



We let it ring three times before answering. Not that it matters which option you pick here.




It's me.
Identify yourself.
Rukov here.



I hope to learn something later on.



Matsnev's a boat. It's leaving Quay 19 around 2 pm today.
Very well. I may have the beginnings of something interesting for you, concerning the criminal Yakuchev. I haven't yet discovered all his current activities but I know he served in Afghanistan with your Moscow friend, Verto.
As soon as I have his address, it will be communicated to you at your hotel. Tomorrow morning, probably. Any questions?



Tell me about Protopopov.
Protopopov? Can't help you. I'll try and find out.
Is it true that Kusnetsov deals with the Hammer and Sickle street gang?
Kusnetsov's functions may involve such activities.
Is it true that Kusnetsov intends killing Mechulaiev tonight?
I don't know. It is unlikely, in my view.
What can you tell me about Chapkin?
I can tell you little about officers working for Department 7, except that the group I represent considers your superior's attitude concerning Kusnetsov misplaced. For our part, we suspect Agabekov of self-seekerism and are convinced that if any serious case of corruption in Leningrad Department 7 does exist, then Agabekov is the most likely to be involved. We also suspect him of collusion with hostile foreigners.
Did Chapkin send two killers after me?
He may have done but it is of no consequence: Chapkin is a minor participant. I advise you to ignore him.
Does Kusnetsov know where Chapkin is?
I don't know. Kusnetsov, according to my sources, is in a buoyant mood this morning. I have little time, Rukov.
What do you know about Wallace?
She is the female CIA operative I mentioned last night. According to my information, she has now left for Helsinki. I don't know what she was doing here but we consider her as hostile.
Do you have anything on Greenberg?
He is a CIA agent considered useful to our current interests.
What do you know about Savinkov?
I know nothing of him. We have no reason to doubt his loyalty to colonel Galushkin.
Maybe my suspicions about him were just paranoia.
Why all the hidden coded messages?
Precautions. And a means of assessing your aptitudes.
Does that down-and-out in the alley work for you?
I don't know what you're talking about. I must go soon. Please be brief.
I'd like to know more about the people you represent.
You do not need to know any more than I have already told you. There is no reason to suspect me. I have answered all your questions. One more question.
What should I do?
I would advise you to examine all the information at your disposal, try and fit it together to understand the relations between all the people involved. You'll see that Agabekov is the key to the mystery.
That's all I wanted to know. How can I recontact you?
I'll contact you.



It still looks as if Cut-throat is working for Kusnetsov, but he's probably right about Agabekov. Anyway, my meeting with Greenberg is at noon, so I'd better get over to Ladoga Park.




12:00 PM

Greenberg arrives right on time.




You mentioned that name last night. What have you found out?



Sorry, I don't know anything about Protopopov.
Okay. I didn't really expect you to turn anything up.
I've got just one thing for you but it's good. I checked out that guy Yakuchev you asked me about and here's what I found. First, he's a mean son of a bitch who keeps himself well hidden. Second, he's Pamyat. If there's one thing I like less than KGB, it's Pamyat. Those ultra-nationalist neo-fascist Jew-haters make me very angry, my friend.





That's the end of the second chapter. Next time, we'll be disobeying Savinkov's direct orders and sneaking onto the Viktor Matsnev. The game doesn't give us a choice in the matter, but it still seems like the best course of action if we want to find out what's really going on. Stay tuned for another bonus update, and a recap of Chapter 2 in case you're feeling a bit lost.

tinkerttoy
Dec 30, 2013

by XyloJW
My God, he's alive!

So, is the boat a trap?

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!
Update 30 Bonus



Since there's only so many questions you can ask Cut-throat, I had to leave some out. Here's the rest.

Does Kusnetsov intend taking over the crack shipment?
Crack shipment? I don't know about that.
Did you find out about any incoming cargo ships?
A number of merchant ships. Nothing in particular though.
Tell me about Obukov.
Alfred Obukov is a criminal, recently arrived here. His record mentions drug-related misdemeanors. He appears to enjoy some sort of official protection. That's all I've had time to discover.
What can you tell me about Savchenko?
He's a small time gangster, working for a man called Mechulaiev in the warehouse in Hammer and Sickle street you asked me about.
Is Viktor Matsnev a fishing boat?
Yes.
Do you know anyone who smokes cigars?
My father in Minsk. Nobody else in particular.
Aren't you manipulating me on Kusnetsov's behalf?
No.



On the phone with Cut-throat:

Identify yourself.
You first.
Cut-throat.
Prove it.
Don't play games. Identify yourself.
I want proof that you're Cut-throat.
I have no proof. Either you identify yourself, or I'll ring off.
Sorry, comrade. I must insist.







I hope you put your finger on that Viktor Matsnev guy?
I was hoping you'd find out about him.
You're a fool, Rukov! You know Matsnev's making his move today but you don't know who or where he is! We're out of the game, and all because of your incompetence. I knew we couldn't trust you.

Cut-throat rings off, and the hobo pumps you full of lead yet again.





While talking with Greenberg:



I'm not here to give information to a foreign intelligence officer!
Now that's more like the KGB goons I'm used to dealing with. You can go straight to hell, Rukov!




Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
What happens if you tell Greenburg you have Protopopov's address? Is that old news to him?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Ha! So how many different factions are watching us, to execute us at the first sign of trouble?

red mammoth
Nov 3, 2011

Stupid sexy Stalin!

Coolguye posted:

What happens if you tell Greenburg you have Protopopov's address? Is that old news to him?

I forgot to mention, we don't actually know Protopopov's address yet. We can lie to Greenberg about his address, but I don't think that affects anything. He doesn't kill you later on for misleading him, or anything like that. I'm not even sure why that option is in the game.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Cool. I didn't think we knew it, but I was curious how the game was going to handle that.

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Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Actually trying to get on board the ship causes a fatal crash in pretty much every version of the game I've encountered after the very first one I got to play. My memory of everything that follows is a bit fuzzy (with the exception of the actual ending)

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