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KoldPT posted:I think it helps that Jason Rohrer is a pretty hosed up man. He does not come across well in interviews. He is weird and maybe autistic. Nevertheless, the criticisms of the game which claimed it as an endorsement of castle doctrine law have a huge case of "didn't-actually-play-the-game-itis".
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Pomp posted:Game stories are terrible because our AAA writers are obsessed with shallow action movie schlock, and the amateurs trying to push outside of that (with varying degrees of success) get harassed out of the industry or ignored in favor of the new super deep story about shooting man. They are being ignored or harassed because their efforts are universally bad. Writing quality aside, good gameplay is almost always nowhere to be found in these games. Fag Boy Jim posted:He does not come across well in interviews. He is weird and maybe autistic. Nevertheless, the criticisms of the game which claimed it as an endorsement of castle doctrine law have a huge case of "didn't-actually-play-the-game-itis". The weird banned SJW guy is really really obsessed with this game. http://designislaw.tumblr.com/post/74250711921/satisfying-my-murderboner-surviving-jason-rohrers quote:This poo poo would be so hilarious in it’s stupidly if it wasn’t so respected by academic critics like Frank Lantz, another white dude. Is this what games as a community are becoming? An arms race to who is the most out of touch and delusional white dude, unable to engage with the reality of the world outside of terms of engagement centered around their supremacy?
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Fag Boy Jim posted:He is weird and maybe autistic. Gamers.txt
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"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!"/ Gardevoir Pokemon Slavery Game Source:  http://www.otakubell.com/smw/index.php/V3:Gardevoir quote:Gardevoir is one of the Slaves that you can train in the game. Firstly captured to hypnotize people for her trainer, she refused to do so. Her trainer decided to entrust her to you to teach her who is the master. quote:Gardevoir Latex Dress Energy Ball Jellicent was always better than Gardevoir anyways. Joke's on them 
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...of SCIENCE! posted:The image of a lily-white game designer living in such perpetual fear of urbans that he vents his impotent terror into a videogame is pretty loving funny. White people who live in poor neighborhoods tend to be worried about crime. There are many reasons why this happens, but I do not think it is particularly interesting to go, "They are racist for having these feelings", and move on. In fact, encouraging exploration of these feelings (perhaps, for instance, by engaging with them in the act of making a video game) can help one recognize the cultural factors that have taught them to fear living in poor neighborhoods, and reject the factors that are based on racist views.
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:Absolutely, and if you do, it's good to not call your critics racists or sexists. You people are Wormtongues to Kewpus' Theoden.
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boo_radley posted:You people are Wormtongues to Kewpus' Theoden. Source your quotes.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:White people who live in poor neighborhoods tend to be worried about crime. So do black people and asians. Your point?
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Widestancer posted:So do black people and asians. Your point? I was responding to someone who specifically brought up the comedic image of a white person living in a poor neighborhood being concerned about crime. AKA the white guy who locks his car door in the 7-Eleven when a black guy walks buy.
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Widestancer posted:"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!"/ Gardevoir Pokemon Slavery Game Slavemaker is a fan hentai parody of the game 'Princess Maker'. You are a slave trainer in the kingdom of Mioya. You are contracted to train a girl to become the ideal slave. She will be trained in many fields but sex is a significant part of the training. Each girl has a training time before she is turned over to her owner and in that time you need to try have maximize her abilities. There are dresses and other items that help this, and also potions of various effects. Part of the interest in the game can be learning what these things do and where they can be found. The girls are various characters from anime and games, their personalities will be similar but not identical to their source. Also note for this game they are all 18 or older (despite the occasional school uniform you may see). Some more extreme hentai elements are in this game, including bondage, rape, ponygirls, tentacles and dickgirls. All of these hentai elements can be disabled from the Options menu. Also note this is fan or doujin game, so is not for sale in any way. My apologies to the original copyright holders and artists. No offense is intended.
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Kewpuh please make source your quotes probatable (not retroactively though because i'm guilty of it too) thanks
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KoldPT posted:Kewpuh please make source your quotes probatable (not retroactively though because i'm guilty of it too) thanks I think it would be cool if this thread turned into people yelling "source your quotes" at each other like insane parrots.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I was responding to someone who specifically brought up the comedic image of a white person living in a poor neighborhood being concerned about crime. AKA the white guy who locks his car door in the 7-Eleven when a black guy walks buy. It is pretty comedic though. I've lived in some pretty lovely areas and have had some white neighbors who stockpiled guns because of crime in the area. When they got burglarized and their gun safe carted off it was kinda funny to be honest. Kinda put a dent in their argument that they absolutely needed to have that pre '86 MAC sitting in the safe for "security".
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I think it would be cool if this thread turned into people yelling "source your quotes" at each other like insane parrots. Same.
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Widestancer posted:It is pretty comedic though. I've lived in some pretty lovely areas and have had some white neighbors who stockpiled guns because of crime in the area. When they got burglarized and their gun safe carted off it was kinda funny to be honest. Kinda put a dent in their argument that they absolutely needed to have that pre '86 MAC sitting in the safe for "security". Agreed and there absolutely is a racial element to it. The issue is complex enough that I just don't think it's particularly useful to just conclude that anyone who has these feelings is racist and leave it at that. I don't know if that's clear. This also has nothing to do with game design, lol. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Pomp posted:source your quotes source yours SIR/MADAM/RESPECTFUL EGALITARIAN ADDRESS
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Nice strawman. Oh for sure man
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:They are being ignored or harassed because their efforts are universally bad. Writing quality aside, good gameplay is almost always nowhere to be found in these games. When Zoe Quinn put her game (Depression Quest) on greenlight there were people who dug up her phone number and masturbated into the phone. That wasn't even a Phil Fish situation where she said some dumb stuff, there was a targeted harassment campaign directed at her just for putting her game on steam. That doesn't happen just because the gameplay or writing is bad.
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Suspicious Dish posted:Again, gonna ask the thread: does anybody know of a good game with an interesting story and good sense of gameplay? Papers Please did neat things with story and gameplay being intertwined. I'd also say Chibi Robo but it's been years since I've played that game and maybe it's not as good as I remember. Anyway have more Miiverse screen caps because I think they're funny.   
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"Unyeah" is the coolest word ever invented.
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Time for some gamers.txt from the other side of the gender divide: "Girl's guide to the 10 hottest videogame studs" Source: http://thephoenix.com/boston/recroom/73359-girls-guide-to-10-hottest-videogame-studs/ quote:2. Alex Shepherd from Silent Hill: Homecoming If you've played through SH:HC you'll know why this is 10 millions kinds of hosed up. quote:his is a terrible list. Obviously you don't play that many video games. What about the lead from Mass Effect. Or the lead from the Fable series. This list doesn't include Sephiroth so real fangirls need not apply 
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Agreed and there absolutely is a racial element to it. The issue is complex enough that I just don't think it's particularly useful to just conclude that anyone who has these feelings is racist and leave it at that. I don't know if that's clear. Locking the door because a black dude walks by does make you a racist shithead and the whole "They are racist for having these feelings", they most likely are if they have some weird fear of black(clutching purses, locking doors and/or walking over to the other sidewalk) and such fears can lead to deadly encounters(Trayvon Marvin for example). All this race talk reminded me of the release of Resident Evil 5, now that was some source hilarious gamers.txt. http://www.destructoid.com/n-gai-croal-comments-on-re5-trailer-but-all-we-see-is-another-capcom-hit-80891.phtml Old but gold. JACK of No Trades posted:People that point out racism usually are racist themselves.
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Suspicious Dish posted:My favorite games are Super Mario World, Spelunky, Just Cause 2 and Katamari Damacy. None of those have a story in any way. I certainly don't think a story is required to make a compelling game, I was just curious if any game had done it. The important thing to take away is that nobody is trying to destroy the loving games industry, misoginy within the gaming industry will destroy it twice before crazy SJWs on their tumblrs make a dent, and if you can't take (or block out) criticism of your hobby from Leftists or Feminists or whatever the boogeyman of the week is then you deserve to be mocked in this thread as much as CisScumPwner64 does.
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:They are being ignored or harassed because their efforts are universally bad. Writing quality aside, good gameplay is almost always nowhere to be found in these games. "It's okay to harass people when they make a game that isn't a game." - Forums Poster Zog-Fot-Pik
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Is it OK to harass Ken Levine? I think it is.Doc Neutral posted:Locking the door because a black dude walks by does make you a racist shithead and the whole "They are racist for having these feelings", they most likely are if they have some weird fear of black(clutching purses, locking doors and/or walking over to the other sidewalk) and such fears can lead to deadly encounters(Trayvon Marvin for example). Yeah agreed. FWIW the specific example was just talking about general anxiety over living in a poor neighborhood, not something as dumb as, you know, Walking Across The Street To Avoid Black People Guy. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Pomp posted:"It's okay to harass people when they make a game that isn't a game." - Forums Poster Zog-Fot-Pik I can't believe someone might be mean to me online because I made a bad game. Hog Inspector posted:When Zoe Quinn put her game (Depression Quest) on greenlight there were people who dug up her phone number and masturbated into the phone. That wasn't even a Phil Fish situation where she said some dumb stuff, there was a targeted harassment campaign directed at her just for putting her game on steam. That doesn't happen just because the gameplay or writing is bad. Of course, there are your hosed up weirdos too.
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Chaltab posted:I assume you've played games other than those four in the past 20 years, right? Plenty of games have a good story and good gameplay, more now than ever before. What games mostly suck at is integrating story and gameplay. Most games, whether their stories are bad or good or perfunctory, segregate completely by having story happen in non-interactive cut-scenes (or worse, quick time events). Hell, Gone Home isn't novel in its approach--it tells its story the same way that Metroid Prime does--you find audio and written logs while exploring a creepy location where you are isolated and have no allies. One thing that has been buggering me for a while is why do big AAA devs who are losing loads of money(Square Enix) continously target a small(and very vocal) market base namely the adolescent male when women who make up around 45% of gamers aren't target at all, it's like they don't want womens money.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:"Unyeah" is the coolest word ever invented. Yeah!!
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Doc Neutral posted:One thing that has been buggering me for a while is why do big AAA devs who are losing loads of money(Square Enix) continously target a small(and very vocal) market base namely the adolescent male when women who make up around 45% of gamers aren't target at all, it's like they don't want womens money.
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Not sure if it's TRUE and HONEST gamers.txt but the John Fitch drop from UFC over video game licensing has made for some suitably hilarious 'roid fueled comments. Source: http://www.cagepotato.com/total-horseshit-jon-fitch-dropped-from-ufc-over-video-game-licensing/ The article itself is fueled with enough testosterone rage to give everyone at returnofkings.com painful erections but the real beauty is in the comments: quote:Some guy wants my take on it another jackoff thinks I am tuf gay, wow that hurts. quote:"these fucks aren't partners with us gently caress em" they're not if they were youd split proffits fifty fifty with them i think the fighters get 10%-15% right now. i smell a union coming. quote:It’s a business you morons. Who the hell does Fitch think he is? Well I’ll tell you who he is now. A nobody. There you go buddy, you wanted to make money of your figurines and baby dolls instead of showing some good faith and do something for your company, well here you go, good luck finding a job with that mashed brain of yours. See you soon puring me a new driveway.  If only E-sports could be professional like REAL SPORTS!
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Doc Neutral posted:One thing that has been buggering me for a while is why do big AAA devs who are losing loads of money(Square Enix) continously target a small(and very vocal) market base namely the adolescent male when women who make up around 45% of gamers aren't target at all, it's like they don't want womens money. The prevailing "wisdom" in comics, cartoons and video games marketing is that women don't spend as much money as men, and that's about the full extent of it. edit: Example in the cancellation of Young Justice quote:Dini goes on to mention how the Young Justice stories were much more teenager-oriented but the trend is to hit younger audiences with the newer shows. He said, “They’re all for the boys, we do not want the girls! I mean, I’ve heard executives say this, you know, not where I am but at other places, saying like, ‘We do not want girls watching these shows.” When Smith pointed out that was a strange move because, well, women are 51% of the population, Dini said, “They don’t buy toys. The girls buy different toys.” quote:Smith: You can sell them T-shirts if they don’t—A: I disagree, I think girls buy toys as well, maybe not as many as loving boys do, but, B: sell them something else, man! Don’t be lazy and be like, ‘well I can’t sell a girl a toy.’ Sell ‘em a t-shirt, man, sell them loving umbrella with the loving character on it, something like that. But if it’s not a toy, there’s something else you could sell ‘em! Like, just because you can’t figure out your job, don’t kill chances of, like, something that’s gonna reach an audi—that’s, it’s just so self-defeating, when people go, like… these are the same fuckers who go, like, ‘Oh, girls don’t read comics, girls aren’t into comics.’ It’s all self-fulfilling prophecies. They just make it that way, by going like, ‘I can’t sell ‘em a toy, what’s the point?’ Pomp fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Pomp posted:The prevailing "wisdom" in comics, cartoons and video games marketing is that women don't spend as much money as men, and that's about the full extent of it. How are they missing the mountains of money that manchildren's moms are paying into gaming?
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Chaltab posted:I don't think Square Enix of all people are guilty of tageting only male gamers. Final Fantasy has a huge fanbase of women (E.G. the aforementioned Sephiroth fangirls), as does Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest. Unless you mean their subsidiaries like Eidos, in which case... your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they think Tomb Raider gives them enough feminist cred to be horrible with their Hitman advertising. Yeah to be fair that's kinda true but I was thinking more in the line of games like Tomb Raider and Hitman: Absolution not making the sales target, and by targeting I don't mean those godawful and condescending "girls games" but something along the line of more women protaginsts(strong, weak or whatever), multiplayer games like shooters having male and female options(it not being the standard is ludicrous) and so and so forth because right now it's kind of an untapped market who's mostly(if I'm wrong please correct me) playing facebook and mobile game also more women playing AAA games means more diverse choices and in turn might change the stagnating poop that is mountain doritos shooters. Doc Neutral fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Widestancer posted:How are they missing the mountains of money that manchildren's moms are paying into gaming? Honestly things aren't much better even when they do realize that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BqkPm0owi4
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Suspicious Dish posted:This might be my new favorite URL on the internet. Thanks Widestancer Near that thread there is another titled "after 26 years I am FINALLY getting pegged!". Seems oddly appropriate given the proximity to BioShock Infinite.
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