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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Who is that silver-haired girl? That isn't Labrys is it?

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Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Who is that silver-haired girl? That isn't Labrys is it?

In the last picture? That's Fuuka, from P3. She decided to grow a braid apparently.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Her hair is lighter colored too.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Huh. So they finally gave Rise's manager a unique portrait.

LightningKimba
Nov 5, 2010

Unleashing my best...

LUMINARY UPPERCUT!!

I forgot about two pages apparently, that's no good.


legoman727
Mar 13, 2010

by exmarx
Shadow Rise looks rather terrifying. I don't get how, but the eyes on her especially creep me out.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Here, have a Rise trailer to go along with those bandwidth-destroying scans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNbgYozx-U

OmegaGoo
Nov 25, 2011

Mediocrity: the standard of survival!
That super looked amusing.

She looks like she's supposed to be a setup->combo machine.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
She looks pretty fun. Himiko is kinda scary in battle mode, although I dunno...it feel a little strange to have her fighting for some reason. Then again, it also felt strange that she WASN'T fighting in the first game, seeing as how she wasn't particularly different from any of the other kids. Fuuka at least has a weak constitution and a Persona built around protecting her and scanning around, so it was sort of sensible there, but Rise's just a pop idol. Maybe combat would risk her getting a visible scratch and ruining her career?

Batigh
Dec 21, 2009
She's got Haggar's rapid-fire fists... and a mic rivalling The Pipe in size. :stare: Here's hoping she has a ground-bouncing j2b!

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

OFFICIAL RACIST
Here some more info on the golden arena mode.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/24/persona-4-arena-ultimax-dlc-story-rpg-lite-arena-level/

Also to note for first print editions in Japan, there will be a DLC storyline included. Also on the main website, there are two characters yet to be revealed. So I'm thinking it will be Ken, and possibly Adachi or Fuuka.

I put one of the names in spoiler tags for those who still haven't completed Persona 4 for some reason.

DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 24, 2014

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

BottledBodhisvata posted:

She looks pretty fun. Himiko is kinda scary in battle mode, although I dunno...it feel a little strange to have her fighting for some reason. Then again, it also felt strange that she WASN'T fighting in the first game, seeing as how she wasn't particularly different from any of the other kids. Fuuka at least has a weak constitution and a Persona built around protecting her and scanning around, so it was sort of sensible there, but Rise's just a pop idol. Maybe combat would risk her getting a visible scratch and ruining her career?

Maybe it comes from their actual personas; everyone else in the investigation team is the type to face their problems head-on in some fashion. Yu and Yosuke have the courage to stand up to a foe they might not be able to beat, Chie and Kanji are both very willing to fight for what they believe in, Naoto deals in stripping things down and challenging them, and Yukiko's whole arc in P4 was in grasping some agency in her own life.

In contrast, Rise is probably the least willing and able to actually confront a problem by herself. Indeed, all she wanted to do is hang back, have friends and take it easy for once in her life, so it makes sense that her powers would be in keeping with that, being more support-focused and reliant on those friends she wants to have.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

OmegaGoo posted:

That super looked amusing.

She looks like she's supposed to be a setup->combo machine.
Seems that way. On the flip side, Rise will most likely compete with Elizabeth in the "character with the lowest HP" category. As in, any character could knock off 90% of her health with a simple combo.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
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DarkstarIV posted:

Here some more info on the golden arena mode.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/24/persona-4-arena-ultimax-dlc-story-rpg-lite-arena-level/

Also to note for first print editions in Japan, there will be a DLC storyline included. Also on the main website, there are two characters yet to be revealed. So I'm thinking it will be Ken, and possibly Adachi or Fuuka.

I put one of the names in spoiler tags for those who still haven't completed Persona 4 for some reason.

I wish those two last characters will be P2 characters (Preferably Tatsuya and Eikichi, but literally anyone from 2 would be amazing), but if they have to be P3-4 cast members I really wouldn't mind getting Koromaru in. Maybe throw in P3 Protag as a big final act story twist kind of deal? Literally anyone would be preferable to Ken and Fuuka.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Koromaru's hitbox would be a real problem though.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

MrAristocrates posted:

Koromaru's hitbox would be a real problem though.
Eh, if Capcom can make Amaterasu work in MvC3, Koromaru could work in Ultimax since he'd have a near-identical hitbox.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Hitbox should never be an issue, make the character bigger, add some armor to them, anything that makes it necessary to make the hitbox bigger if it needs to be. A common complaint I've seen for not adding Jubei to Blazblue is his hitbox would be too small and that's not an excuse because he fights with armor, or you can make him bigger if need be.

It's a fighting game, as long as you're not making them giants or midgets you can take some liberty with character sizes.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT
There's also Iggy, the original dog in a fighting game (afaik). Iggy had a really small hitbox but his stand's hitbox was huge.

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010
Let us not forget Iggy in the original Jojo's fighting game.

edit: f;b

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



AradoBalanga posted:

Eh, if Capcom can make Amaterasu work in MvC3, Koromaru could work in Ultimax since he'd have a near-identical hitbox.

The two aren't really comparable in any fashion. MvC3's hurt and hitboxes (or rather spheres) work wildly differently to ASW style hit/hurtboxes. ASW's are far more of a precise science, and even minor deviations from the norm can gently caress with balance in some pretty dramatic ways. That leads to things like the plethora of character-specific combos that Arcsys fighters tend to have.

To use BlazBlue as an example, the character on the left, despite being ever so slightly shorter than the one on the right, has a hitbox which, though still within the bounds of her sprite, still gently caress with combos enough that several characters have to take huge hits to damage output and setups to make their combos work on her and her alone.


I'm not saying there isn't a way around that, but just saying that because one company made it work so that means it won't be a problem is a little disingenuous.

ACES CURE PLANES fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 24, 2014

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


MvC3 had some pretty generous loving hitboxes though, I mained Ammy in that game. Mitsuru's 5A would miss Koro entirely unless they made him loving huge, which would be a massive problem.

fake edit: beaten, sort of

Mio Bison
Dec 14, 2005

violence is who I am, loser
Am I the only one who feels like every character in a fighting game should look at me while they're hitting me? What the gently caress Rise.

Tarezax posted:

There's also Iggy, the original dog in a fighting game (afaik). Iggy had a really small hitbox but his stand's hitbox was huge.

How ironic that Iggy was so right and Pet Shop was so impossibly wrong.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

MrAristocrates posted:

Koromaru's hitbox would be a real problem though.

Koromaru could stand on the back of the fox from P4 and they'd fight as a team.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Suspicious Cook posted:

Koromaru could stand on the back of the fox from P4 and they'd fight as a team.

Okay guys I'm back in Koromaru sounds great

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
I was just thinking maybe Koromaru could have a really vulnerable/always present Persona like Shadow Labrys so you could Persona break him relatively easily but that's a cool idea too

I guess

(it's better)

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Mgaxk4Gcs

Some Rise gameplay.

My initial impression is she's going to play similar to Street Fighter's Rose, but with better/slower projectiles. Those musical notes look pretty annoying.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

I'm kind of disappointed that Shadow Rise doesn't do her awkward stripper dance in victory.

I wonder if Rise joining means Fuuka will too. With the way her Persona fully engulfs her, I could see her being very defense heavy.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Suspicious Cook posted:

I'm kind of disappointed that Shadow Rise doesn't do her awkward stripper dance in victory.

I wonder if Rise joining means Fuuka will too. With the way her Persona fully engulfs her, I could see her being very defense heavy.

Her metagame will be annoying her enemy at all times.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012
We should've gotten Fuuka.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
Considering how bummed Rise was she'd been a) kidnapped again b)out-scanned by Fuuka, developing:shopkeeper:LASERS:shopkeeper: and turning dangerous is a perfectly valid response.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

legoman727 posted:

Shadow Rise looks rather terrifying. I don't get how, but the eyes on her especially creep me out.

Yeah, they clearly overshot for her, because instead of Rise's more vanilla-type repressed emotions, it looks like she's repressing that she secretly likes killing people slowly with power-tools. They went full yandere.

Ekusukariba
Oct 11, 2012
Trailer for Junpei is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3IkXQ1OERY

Batigh
Dec 21, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IFkILlDTA

At about 5:10, Slab lands a gold burst and refills her persona meter, going from one card remaining back to full! Had no idea that worked.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Batigh posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IFkILlDTA

At about 5:10, Slab lands a gold burst and refills her persona meter, going from one card remaining back to full! Had no idea that worked.

Supposedly that may be a new thing in v1.1 which just came out a few weeks ago, but I haven't seen any confirmation. Bunch of balance changes and all that business in that patch too. Shadow characters (clone ones that is) got +2000 HP across the board. Labrys got a few nice buffs so she might not be unbelievably dogshit terrible at least.

Full list of changes here: http://shoryuken.com/2014/04/18/persona-4-the-ultimax-ultra-suplex-hold-update-ver-1-10-arriving-in-arcades-april-25/


Console release is August for JP version, Septemper 16th for US version. Region locking is ?maybe? from the sound of it.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
It would be very strange if they didn't include Ken, since he's the last (living) member of SEES they haven't done yet.

But if they add "Shadow Adachi" to explain how he's there despite being in jail, they could go nuts and make Shadow Shinjiro or who knows what.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Excels posted:

It would be very strange if they didn't include Ken, since he's the last (living) member of SEES they haven't done yet.

But if they add "Shadow Adachi" to explain how he's there despite being in jail, they could go nuts and make Shadow Shinjiro or who knows what.

With Adachi being such a regular character still, despite his defeat in P4, I wonder if he'll come back as a villain in later games. It'd be kind of cool if they bring back the ability to use Personas in the real world, and Adachi breaks out of jail to go and, I dunno, join Nyarlathotep's evil motorcycle gang.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
The idea is that in the real world Adachi is recovering, now that he's been locked away from all the Shadow/Inaba business his madness has cleared up a little, which is why he writes to Yu at the end of P4 saying there are still details that bother him as he runs over it all in his head.

So the one in P4A2 is a Shadow clone or something, not the real Adachi (who is behind bars)

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Adachi was resigned to his loss at the end of P4, there's no point in bringing him back as a villain. His appearances from after that will probably be strictly from other villains taking his form or relegated to events from P4 like the DLC Campaign coming for this game. He's going to be playable it seems, we're just waiting for official word at this point.

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

OFFICIAL RACIST
I like to imagine Adachi's storyline will involve finding the ultimate cabbage. :shobon:

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Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
it is beautifully ironic that adachi is so immensely popular on tumblr even though he represents pretty much everything they hate about men.

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