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med school head: Apr 17, 2012

THC posted:

ios 7 is great, looks great, perfectly legible, much better than forstall os 6, yall are idiots

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Cygni: Nov 12, 2005; raring to post

flat UI design is bad and i blame google for its prevalence

# ? May 2, 2014 16:42

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

Cygni posted:

flat UI design is bad and i blame microsfot for its prevalence

# ? May 2, 2014 17:34

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

flat ui design is equally good or bad to one with more dimensionality, the difference is flat requires more work to get right and nobody's really got it right yet

# ? May 2, 2014 17:38

exe cummings: Jan 22, 2005

skeuomorphism sucks

# ? May 2, 2014 17:47

exe cummings: Jan 22, 2005

wean yourself off of old world design metaphors already

# ? May 2, 2014 17:48

Cygni: Nov 12, 2005; raring to post

exant posted:

wean yourself off of old world design metaphors already

no its cool and better than zero texture randomly placed neon squares

# ? May 2, 2014 18:03

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

exant posted:

wean yourself off of old world design metaphors already

lol u have no idea what skueomorphism means. for like the millionth time, it does not mean "flat ui" or "no textures"

in ios 7 there are switches for on/off that resemble a real switch with green meaning on. thats skeuomorphism. hope this helps.

# ? May 2, 2014 18:17

exe cummings: Jan 22, 2005

Last Chance posted:

lol u have no idea what skueomorphism means. for like the millionth time, it does not mean "flat ui" or "no textures"

in ios 7 there are switches for on/off that resemble a real switch with green meaning on. thats skeuomorphism. hope this helps.

let me rephrase my original post for you: flat ui is good because skueomorphism sucks. read better

# ? May 2, 2014 18:25

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Cygni posted:

flat UI design is bad and i blame google for its prevalence

google UI design is bad

flat is fine if you get it right, see iOS 7 for details

# ? May 2, 2014 18:32

exe cummings: Jan 22, 2005

Cygni posted:

no its cool and better than zero texture randomly placed neon squares

I agree its good to teach people how to use a calendar or w/e but at some point we as a society should accept that computers can do more than real world objects can and we should break those bonds

# ? May 2, 2014 18:34

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

exant posted:

I agree its good to teach people how to use a calendar or w/e but at some point we as a society should accept that computers can do more than real world objects can and we should break those bonds

developing a new metaphorical framework for things that have no analog equivalent is kind of difficult for a society of meat machines

# ? May 2, 2014 18:48

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

THC posted:

google UI design is bad

flat is fine if you get it right, see iOS 7 for details

ios7 is hilariously ugly.

just fixing the icon shape alone would do wonders.

# ? May 2, 2014 18:49

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

nah it looks good, icons look fine, definitely the best looking OS. I'll grant that some third party apps are ugly as a result of devs not applying the new design principles

# ? May 2, 2014 19:03

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

most of the first party apps are really ugly

# ? May 2, 2014 19:23

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

arguing with shaggar detected

# ? May 2, 2014 19:24

poty: Jun 21, 2008; 虹はどこで終わるのですか？あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

someone make a gang tag that says antigoogle jihadist with bearded steve wearing osamas towelhead

pretty please

# ? May 2, 2014 20:46

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

Google Owns

# ? May 2, 2014 21:33

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

shaggar was right

# ? May 2, 2014 21:39

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

my favourite piece of google design is this

oh, i guess i accidentally turned safesearch on?

nope jk it's just an unlabelled checkbox button!!

# ? May 2, 2014 21:53

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

use bing for porno jfc

# ? May 2, 2014 22:01

AtomD: May 3, 2009; Fun Shoe

Install Windows posted:

shaggar was right

truth

maybe it looks okay to someone who didn't grow up in the era of lovely gradients on wordart saying things like

# ? May 2, 2014 22:43

cremnob: Jun 30, 2010

lmao all that obama dick google sucked and all those lobbying $ and then this baby comes out. gently caress yea, hope this gets some steam during the mid-term elections

quote:

Call for Limits on Web Data of Customers

The White House, hoping to move the national debate over privacy beyond the National Security Agency�s surveillance activities to the practices of companies like Google and Facebook, released a long-anticipated report on Thursday that recommends developing government limits on how private companies make use of the torrent of information they gather from their customers online.

The report, whose chief author is John D. Podesta, a senior White House adviser, is the next step in the administration�s response to the disclosures by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor that began the debate.

Because the effort goes so far beyond information collected by intelligence agencies, the report was viewed warily in Silicon Valley, where companies see it as the start of a government effort to regulate how they can profit from the data they collect from email and web surfing habits.

Mr. Podesta, in an interview, said President Obama was surprised during his review of the N.S.A.�s activities that �the same technologies are not only used by the intelligence community, but far more broadly in the public and private spheres because there is so much collection� from the web, smartphones and other sensors.

�You are shedding data everywhere,� Mr. Podesta said.

The report makes six policy recommendations. They include passing a national data breach law that would require companies to report major losses of personal and credit card data, after attacks like the one on Target that exposed credit card information on roughly 70 million customers. It seeks legislation that would define consumer rights regarding how data about their activities was used. It suggests extending privacy protections to individuals who are not citizens of the United States and argues for action to ensure that data collected about students is used only for educational purposes.

But the most significant findings in the report focus on the recognition that data can be used in subtle ways to create forms of discrimination � and to make judgments, sometimes in error, about who is likely to show up at work, pay their mortgage on time or require expensive treatment. The report states that the same technology that is often so useful in predicting places that would be struck by floods or diagnosing hard-to-find illnesses in infants also has �the potential to eclipse longstanding civil rights protections in how personal information is used in housing, credit, employment, health, education and the marketplace.�

The report focuses particularly on �learning algorithms� that are frequently used to determine what kind of online ad to display on someone�s computer screen, or to predict their buying habits when searching for a car or in making travel plans. Those same algorithms can create a digital picture of person, Mr. Podesta noted, that can infer race, gender or sexual orientation, even if that is not the intent of the software.

�The final computer-generated product or decision � used for everything from predicting behavior to denying opportunity � can mask prejudices while maintaining a patina of scientific objectivity,� the report concludes.

Mr. Podesta said the concern � he suggested the federal government might have to update laws � was that those software judgments could affect access to bank loans or job offers. They �may seem like neutral factors,� he said, �but they aren�t so neutral� when put together. The potential problem, he added, is that �you are exacerbating inequality rather than opening up opportunity.�

Edward W. Felten, a computer scientist at Princeton and former chief technologist of the Federal Trade Commission, said the goal would be for both the government and industry to address the risk of discrimination based on data analysis.

�There is a role for government to hold companies accountable and establish incentives,� Mr. Felten said. �There needs to be enough incentive for companies to do the hard work.�

Some major companies, including Google, Facebook and Microsoft, declined to comment on the report. But Michael Beckerman, president of the Internet Association, whose members include Google, Facebook, Amazon and Twitter, called the report a �useful examination� of big data technology.

Now that the report has been issued, Mr. Beckerman said, the administration should �turn its attention to the most pressing privacy priorities facing American consumers� � to update the Electronic Communications Privacy Act and to �reform the government�s surveillance laws and practices.�

Other companies, including Mozilla, the maker of a popular web browser, also urged the government to focus on surveillance issues, reflecting Silicon Valley�s concern that the biggest threat they face today is the suspicion around the world that the N.S.A. has built �back doors� into American products.

Google has said it will work to build encryption systems that can defeat N.S.A. spying, and several companies have revised their policies in recent months to say they will warn customers, whenever they legally can, if the government tries to subpoena data stored in their emails, in the cloud or in social media accounts. The notification would not apply in cases where a search was authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which prohibits warning targets of such searches, but the firms are clearly trying to deter the government from regularly mining their data.

In one area, the report appears to side, at least in part, with critics of the N.S.A. who argued with the intelligence agency�s contention that it is far less intrusive to collect �metadata� about a phone call or email than to collect its content.

The former director of the N.S.A., Gen. Keith B. Alexander, often noted that because the agency maintained a database only of the phone numbers that Americans called and the durations of the calls, it was not violating their privacy. But the report notes that there is a �profound question� about whether that kind of metadata �should be accorded stronger privacy protections than they are currently� because they can be revealing of a person�s movements and habits. �This review recommends that the government should broaden� the examination of how intelligence agencies use such data and consider whether the test should be �how much it reveals about individuals.�

Mr. Podesta, in briefing reporters on Thursday, also singled out the shortcomings of the �Terms of Service� that consumers click on, almost always without reading them, when they sign up for free email accounts or download apps for their smartphones. He asked whether that process �still allows us to control and protect our privacy as the data is used and reused.�

That is bound to prove contentious in the information industry, where the clicking on the terms of service is viewed as a license to use the data for a variety of highly profitable purposes.

The report also recommends extending Americans� privacy rights to foreigners, on the theory that there are no boundaries when it comes to the data collected online. Mr. Obama declared in January that the government would do the same in the treatment of data it collects through the National Security Agency and other sources.

Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said that the report identified the key issues and that its policy recommendations addressed privacy groups� major concerns. �The implementation of those proposals,� Mr. Rotenberg said, �is the big challenge now, what happens next.�

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us/white-house-report-calls-for-transparency-in-online-data-collection.html

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pram: Jun 10, 2001

scroogle nmaps posted:

arguing with shaggar detected

# ? May 3, 2014 08:22

cremnob: Jun 30, 2010

ahaha microsoft just flat out supports it while the internet company lobby is all like "hmm yes an interesting report"

quote:

While Mr. Obama has a lot of latitude in intelligence collection, the area pushed in the Podesta report will run headlong into considerable resistance in the country�s most innovative companies. Most turned out statements on Thursday embracing the idea of enhancing individual privacy; Microsoft said that it supported the effort and �will keep working with lawmakers to make these tougher privacy protections a reality.�

# ? May 3, 2014 08:32

poty: Jun 21, 2008; 虹はどこで終わるのですか？あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

it must be a sad-rear end country when the most innovative companies in it do nothing but spy on people and sell ads

# ? May 3, 2014 10:30

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

poty posted:

it must be a sad-rear end country when the most innovative companies in it do nothing but spy on people and sell ads

the word "innovative" has lost its meaning entirely

# ? May 3, 2014 16:35

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

qirex posted:

flat ui design is equally good or bad to one with more dimensionality, the difference is flat requires more work to get right and nobody's really got it right yet

hmm ya and communism owns too it's just nobody got it right yet

# ? May 3, 2014 17:03

Rufus Ping: Dec 27, 2006; I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

Tiny Bug Child posted:

hmm ya and communism owns too it's just nobody got it right yet

communism has come close to working pretty well but in every case was crushed from the outside by capital

# ? May 3, 2014 18:43

pram: Jun 10, 2001

yeah like cambodia. things were going great until the fatcats in vietnam rolled in

# ? May 3, 2014 18:46

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

google thread base here, the lf has landed

# ? May 3, 2014 19:18

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

it's cool we'll all be living in water world by then

i am bored and full of cider right now and will answer the first 3 questions about working for google

why are group chats given the same notification treatment as 1-on-1 chats

maybe i dont want to be notified of every. loving. message. when a group conversation is going

e: seriously, the only way you can have a long-running group chat is to keep it muted (with the angry red banner filling 1/4 of the screen to tell you its muted)

Progressive JPEG fucked around with this message at 20:55 on May 3, 2014

# ? May 3, 2014 20:09

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

Rufus Ping posted:

communism has come close to working pretty well but in every case was crushed from the outside by capital

ahahahah

# ? May 3, 2014 20:48

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

Cold on a Cob posted:

announcing a product after your death would be loving badass tbh

# ? May 3, 2014 21:11

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

cremnob posted:

ive been using bing for a while its p. sick

admitting to using bing is the "micro$oft" of the 2010's

# ? May 3, 2014 21:12

madeupfred: Oct 10, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

The new Google Maps is wonderful. I'm lovin' it!

# ? May 4, 2014 04:57

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

which part of web 2.0 is not having separate pages? because i for one love having to remember to scroll for 10 minutes instead of going to page 10

# ? May 4, 2014 05:21

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

I hate when things are set so link colors don't chat after clicking

# ? May 4, 2014 05:24

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Install Windows posted:

I hate when things are set so link colors don't chat after clicking

my link colours never chat, weird. maybe i'm using really unsociable css

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pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

Boxturret posted:

which part of web 2.0 is not having separate pages? because i for one love having to remember to scroll for 10 minutes instead of going to page 10

this is called infinite scrolling and it is universally reviled by anybody who isn't an idiot web developer

# ? May 4, 2014 05:27

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