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CBJSprague24 posted:I was also a bit disappointed that every manipulation on the part of both Underwoods seemed to go off perfectly, right to Frank knowing Walker wouldn't throw him under the bus with his confession. That or maybe literally everyone around him, including Tusk who seems to be his own breed of conniving prick, was dumber.
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Finally finished the season (I deliberately watched it 1-2 episodes per week at a time) and loved it, I was impressed by Robin Wright in season 1 but she stepped it up incredibly in season 2, Claire is a terrifying character. Not that Kevin Spacey isn't brilliant and Frank Underwood isn't a fantastic character too, but she is incredible. Only sour note for me really was the super-hacker character, I was pleased when they seemed to nip that subplot in the bud and not too pleased to see him return, but I guess it leaves something to potentially endanger Frank next season. Not to mention that all the people now working directly for him are fully aware of just how incredibly manipulative and dangerous he is and how willing he is to throw people under the bus.
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So has it been confirmed yet that the girl who played Megan Hennessey did porn, I keep hearing this rumor and have even seen the video, but I am not sure its 100% true.
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ScienceAndMusic posted:So has it been confirmed yet that the girl who played Megan Hennessey did porn, I keep hearing this rumor and have even seen the video, but I am not sure its 100% true. If you've seen the video...? Isn't she in King Kelly, which is a movie ABOUT porn? Could those things be conflated together, perhaps? Otherwise, does it even matter; who cares?
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CBJSprague24 posted:And I doubt it was deliberate, but Netflix leaving Mara and Stoll as stars on the info screen for the show was great because it made you think neither was going to die. It absolutely was deliberate, you'll notice that Mara was also in the credits for episode 1 as if she were a featured/recurring/starring/whatever actress.
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precision posted:It absolutely was deliberate, you'll notice that Mara was also in the credits for episode 1 as if she were a featured/recurring/starring/whatever actress. The opening credits usually just list the main actors in that episode, even if they aren't recurring parts, though. IIRC, it's a different list in every episode.
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Drifter posted:If you've seen the video...? Because goons want to see actresses naked, especially gentle meek looking ones like the chick who played Megan.
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DStecks posted:The opening credits usually just list the main actors in that episode, even if they aren't recurring parts, though. IIRC, it's a different list in every episode. It is definitely a different list in each episode.
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FINALLY got around to burning down the second season, and I just have to say that the first loving episode left me completely speechless. Just floored me. Probably the most incredible episode of any show that I've seen. I really don't even have anything to say about it besides slowly shaking my head wtih my mouth hanging open. As for the rest of the season, I remember watching Meechum and Claire drinking together after he cuts his hand, thinking that there was going to be a hufe love-triangle plot coming up that was going to tear my favorite power-couple apart, and well... not so much. Good for Meechum, though. A guy could do worse. I thought the finale was, I don't know, it just seemed to come together to neatly. Walker's charactarization was just all over the place. One episode he loves Frank, the next one he hates him, then he misjudged him, then he hates him again, then he hands him the Presidency? It got a little hard to believe towards the end, but I'll put up with a lot to watch Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright just gently caress up everything in their path.
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Wow this series. So loving good. I love Kevin Spacey, always has. I hope they'll do a third season soon!
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Affi posted:Wow this series. So loving good. I love Kevin Spacey, always has. I hope they'll do a third season soon! They'll do it, you just won't see it for another year.
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Did they ever actually explain what Jackie's problem with the rape bill was? She just said she had issues with some of the language. I guess the point was that Claire didn't give a poo poo about what her problem was, but I thought it was weird to have such a big plot point and then not explain the why of it at all. Unless I missed something. Also really disappointed that Jackie and Tusk didn't have any scenes together. Would've been a fun Deadwood reunion, and Tusk is basically Hearst anyway.
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Hakkesshu posted:Did they ever actually explain what Jackie's problem with the rape bill was? She just said she had issues with some of the language. I guess the point was that Claire didn't give a poo poo about what her problem was, but I thought it was weird to have such a big plot point and then not explain the why of it at all. Unless I missed something. It was the inclusion of civilian oversight for the armed forces that made her go against the bill, as far as I can remember.
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Hakkesshu posted:Did they ever actually explain what Jackie's problem with the rape bill was? She just said she had issues with some of the language. I guess the point was that Claire didn't give a poo poo about what her problem was, but I thought it was weird to have such a big plot point and then not explain the why of it at all. Unless I missed something. I don't think they did. I just assumed it was ~politics~ and maybe a little bit of a pride thing, that she wouldn't spearhead it or somesuch. But mostly ~politics~.
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Casino Jack is up on Netflix streaming if you can't get enough of Kevin Spacey hamming it up as an rear end in a top hat Washington power player.
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Hakkesshu posted:Did they ever actually explain what Jackie's problem with the rape bill was? She just said she had issues with some of the language. I guess the point was that Claire didn't give a poo poo about what her problem was, but I thought it was weird to have such a big plot point and then not explain the why of it at all. Unless I missed something. Jackie grew up in the military and was a soldier herself, and the idea of Civilian Oversight of the military is anathema to her.
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The civilian oversight was her ostensible (and probably at least partially true) reason for opposing the bill but I think asserting her power was the most significant reason. Up until that point she was essentially the Underwoods' puppet.
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It bugged me that the primary conceit driving the plot seemed to be "everyone is dumber than Frank and Claire", but I'm really curious to see where they go in S3.
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Noctone posted:The civilian oversight was her ostensible (and probably at least partially true) reason for opposing the bill but I think asserting her power was the most significant reason. Up until that point she was essentially the Underwoods' puppet. Good point, as she demonstrated with Remy when they were trying to corral votes, she hates being told how to do things or people considering that she will just fall into line as a matter of course.
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uncurable mlady posted:It bugged me that the primary conceit driving the plot seemed to be "everyone is dumber than Frank and Claire", but I'm really curious to see where they go in S3. Hopefully it's everyone is slowly getting over on Frank and Claire.
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uncurable mlady posted:It bugged me that the primary conceit driving the plot seemed to be "everyone is dumber than Frank and Claire", but I'm really curious to see where they go in S3. Tusk was every bit as politically skilled as Frank, he just made the fatal mistake of assuming that Frank wasn't as shrewd as he was.
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Tusk's biggest problem (for me, anyway) was in coming out of the shadows, even slightly. By making Frank aware of him, Tusk basically signed his own death warrant, before then he had the ear of the President and could basically tell him to do whatever he wanted. Once Frank knew about his influence, he was able to undermine it, but before that he had been completely in the dark over who had cost him the Secretary of State job in the first place. I absolutely loved that in the final episode when Tusk finally realizes that he once again underestimated Frank, he decides to take down the President with him in a fit of pique - one last childish demonstration of his power. Of course, I fully expect Frank to pardon the President anyway, but I wonder if Tusk is hopeful that Frank will be grateful for speeding up his shift into the top job.
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Releasing all the episodes at once really kills off discussion and any sustained buzz momentum throughout the year.
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Ravel posted:Releasing all the episodes at once really kills off discussion and any sustained buzz momentum throughout the year. I agree, and it's unfortunate that binge releasing is becoming popular at the same time people seem to be becoming more spoiler-phobic. If everything adopts the Netflix model, I guess we just won't watercooler chat about TV shows as a culture anymore? That's no fun.
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I agree too - but it's the nature of DVD boxsets coming down in price in the last few years, boxsets being downloadable on things like Netflix and HBO, etc. It is weird having to wait to talk about shows like Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy with friends at work - they have families and kids to cater to and my watching schedule is just different. I do like how people and fan sites are more conscious of spoilers, though - I once commented on a friend's Facebook post about the spoilers she had for Walking Dead, and she apologized even though the show was broadcast a few days ahead of the UK broadcast. Most blogs also post things like 'this post contains spoilers below, beware if you haven't watched the episode yet'. Sky in the UK showed the first episode of A Game of Thrones season 4 at the same time (2 AM) for the superfans but most shows are delayed by a day or a week, so I'm just used to not coming on web forums or sites until I've caught up.
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krushgroove posted:I agree too - but it's the nature of DVD boxsets coming down in price in the last few years, boxsets being downloadable on things like Netflix and HBO, etc. It is weird having to wait to talk about shows like Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy with friends at work - they have families and kids to cater to and my watching schedule is just different. My dad does this with House of Cards - even if he has plenty of spare time he'll only watch one or maybe two episodes during the weekend. He says he just doesn't like binge watching.
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I think the president deserved to be ousted, I mean he was clearly mentally handicapped if he was trusting the guy that explicitly betrayed him like 10 times.
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I don't think releasing all the episodes at once kills the discussion, because there will always be new people getting into the show throughout the year (if it's good, which this show is).
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:I think the president deserved to be ousted, I mean he was clearly mentally handicapped if he was trusting the guy that explicitly betrayed him like 10 times. I think a lot of the "problem" with the show is that we never see the decades that Frank was an absolute pillar of the party, and that can somewhat excuse Garret's indecisiveness. Yeah, Frank's been acting weird lately, but does that weigh more than his decades of service and instrumental role in getting me elected?
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DStecks posted:I think a lot of the "problem" with the show is that we never see the decades that Frank was an absolute pillar of the party, and that can somewhat excuse Garret's indecisiveness. Yeah, Frank's been acting weird lately, but does that weigh more than his decades of service and instrumental role in getting me elected? Yeah, the show really glossed over the issue of Frank getting passed over for SoS. Making a promise like that to a major player who played a major role in your reelection is a big deal and "we need you in the House now more than ever" is a really lovely reason to renege since that would have been a known issue before and during the election, so the promise should never have been made. Even if the Pres. had good reasons and planned to betray Frank well in advance, he would have needed a much better bullshit excuse and to have disguised and dressed up the thing a lot better, and appeared much more remorseful upon breaking the promise.
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DStecks posted:I think a lot of the "problem" with the show is that we never see the decades that Frank was an absolute pillar of the party, and that can somewhat excuse Garret's indecisiveness. Yeah, Frank's been acting weird lately, but does that weigh more than his decades of service and instrumental role in getting me elected? That seems to be something that it shares with the BBC version. Zwabu posted:Yeah, the show really glossed over the issue of Frank getting passed over for SoS. Making a promise like that to a major player who played a major role in your reelection is a big deal and "we need you in the House now more than ever" is a really lovely reason to renege since that would have been a known issue before and during the election, so the promise should never have been made. Tusk probably just told him to do it, and they put someone in the SoS who looked to be complexly unqualified, so Frank saw it not just as a broken promise, but a personal insult.
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Not really related, but either the Call of Duty guys really really liked House of Card or this is a great preview for Season 3.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I love binge watching, sorry. I hate waiting a whole week to get closure to a cliffhanger that's ultimately just an episode hook anyway. Yep. I don't necessarily want to binge watch everything, but I do want to watch a show at my own pace. I have no interest in waiting if it can be avoided.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Not really related, but either the Call of Duty guys really really liked House of Card or this is a great preview for Season 3. I miss the accent, but the prospect of even a pseudo Frank Underwood as the villain in the latest CoD actually makes me interested in the latest CoD. VVV--It's very real. BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 16:58 on May 5, 2014 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Not really related, but either the Call of Duty guys really really liked House of Card or this is a great preview for Season 3.  Is that for real? It... seems real?
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I finally finished season 2, so I can read this thread without risk. That was some of the most addicting TV I've seen in a long while, and I normally don't get into political dramas. Zwabu posted:Yeah, the show really glossed over the issue of Frank getting passed over for SoS. Making a promise like that to a major player who played a major role in your reelection is a big deal and "we need you in the House now more than ever" is a really lovely reason to renege since that would have been a known issue before and during the election, so the promise should never have been made. I don't know about 'glossed over,' because Frank made it a personal mission to utterly destroy the guy that was appointed SoS, and some of the aftermath of his actions are still out there putting him at risk, namely, Rachel and Gavin the computer hacker. That series of events has remained fairly prevalent, even if slightly muted, for all 26 episodes.
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Doronin posted:I finally finished season 2, so I can read this thread without risk. That was some of the most addicting TV I've seen in a long while, and I normally don't get into political dramas. No, my point is that Pres. Walker and his Chief of Staff seemed to take the whole matter of going back on their promise to Frank to make him SoS a lot more lightly than would seem appropriate, it was basically "well we need you a lot more in the House, so are you on the team or not, can we count on you?" Not that the event itself wasn't a big deal, as it catalyzed the entire plot.
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