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geese posted:I'm only projecting my thought that Andrea is campaigning from the centre and will govern from the left. Has this ever happened anywhere?
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Sometimes, when travelling, Andrea Horwath expenses her meal, and, with the help of a leak from the OLP, The Sun is on it.quote:According to Freedom of Information documents obtained by the Ontario Liberals, the socialist leader and her assistant have charged taxpayers for muffins, bagels, Tim Hortons lunch combos and even a 25-cent Oshawa parking tab. Which is the real Andrea Horwath? The Andrea Horwath who eats a Tim Hortons lunch combo, or the Andrea Horwath who eats lobster bisque?
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infernal machines posted:I'm really disappointed that the PCs are literally the only option if I want to see nuclear power developed in Ontario. Everyone else is promising to halt or revert nuke development and investment. I think I'm pretty pro nuclear power development, and I read a bunch about it a while ago to come to that conclusion, but I no longer remember all the issues. This is something I'd like to be able to talk intelligently about. Does anyone have any good information resources on nuclear power in Ontario?
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Badger of Basra posted:Has this ever happened anywhere? US of A, 2008 to present. Barack Obama's political capital levels are almost, very nearly sufficient to implement his Progressive Agenda. Any day now.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Sometimes, when travelling, Andrea Horwath expenses her meal, and, with the help of a leak from the OLP, The Sun is on it. Every major party campaign in this election is stupid.
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May 18, 2014 03:33
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"In a statement, Liberal MPP and Education Minister Liz Sandals said Horwath’s school plan was an attempt to change the topic from revelations that she expensed coffee and muffins while criticizing others for the same behaviour." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Q4oxx_JJY
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E: Never mind. Should have read the article before posting.
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May 18, 2014 15:35
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Badger of Basra posted:Has this ever happened anywhere? Trick question, there's never been a Canadian government that D&D would recognize as "left wing." Except of course for the Wynne government, who were totally going to give us all great pensions and loads of voter-friendly investment until that meanie Andrea Horwath defeated the budget. Why yes, I'm a tad bitter that the Liberals have apparently succeeded in convincing otherwise-intelligent D&D posters that they're more leftwing than the NDP, despite having governed from the right for an entire decade. Guy DeBorgore fucked around with this message at 15:44 on May 18, 2014 |
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May 18, 2014 15:40
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Guy DeBorgore posted:Why yes, I'm a tad bitter that the Liberals have apparently succeeded in convincing otherwise-intelligent D&D posters that they're more leftwing than the NDP, despite having governed from the right for an entire decade.
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May 18, 2014 16:12
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Guy DeBorgore posted:Why yes, I'm a tad bitter that the Liberals have apparently succeeded in convincing otherwise-intelligent D&D posters that they're more leftwing than the NDP, despite having governed from the right for an entire decade. Oh boy, that old canard that the (federal/Ontario) Liberals are right-of-center. A lot of NDP supporters have their political "center" calibrated based on Trinity—Spadina, despite the fact that that's unquestionably on the left in terms of Ontario, Canada, and the world. (And arguably even in terms of the old city of Toronto.)
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This is the dumbest election ever. IN OTHER NEWS: The Leaders' debate will be June 3rd on TVO, CBC, CTV, Global, Sun and C-PAC. It will be hosted by Steve Paikin. This appears to be the only one we'll be having, nine days before the election and in the middle of advance polling. So get your Twitter fingers ready for all the fun that #ondb8 hashtag will bring, y'all!
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Guy DeBorgore posted:Why yes, I'm a tad bitter that the Liberals have apparently succeeded in convincing otherwise-intelligent D&D posters that they're more leftwing than the NDP, despite having governed from the right for an entire decade. Should we just completely ignore parties' election campaigns and vote for them based on their ostensible ideologies? Because so far the Liberals are running the farthest left-wing campaign of any party in this election by a long stretch.
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May 18, 2014 16:48
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Does Kathleen Wynne deserve time in the penalty box? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SitiWyAeQ0M
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Leofish posted:Does Kathleen Wynne deserve time in the penalty box? I honestly thought that was going to end with a Conservative logo.
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I saw the platform yesterday and I think it's going out next week. I can't talk about any specifics but I think a pretty solid plan for the NDP. It's definitely not going to fire up anyone in this thread, though it's solidly centre-left in my opinion. The fear amongst voters is that, if Andrea gets elected, she's going to pull off her wig and reveal she was Bob Rae all along and spend the province into bankruptcy. So all the planks are laid out in a chart with a timeline for implementation and there is a separate chart that lays out exactly how they're going to pay for everything. Again no specifics, but I see absolutely no cuts to existing government services.
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Guy DeBorgore posted:Trick question, there's never been a Canadian government that D&D would recognize as "left wing." If you just saw the election platform of each party without their names attached, are you telling me you would pick the NDP one as the left party? Be honest.
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Guy DeBorgore posted:Trick question, there's never been a Canadian government that D&D would recognize as "left wing." The CCF had pretty solidly left wing credentials, though I'm sure we could find something wrong with them if we really wanted to. They're also the only explicitly socialist government to win power at the state or provincial level in North America (unless there's a example in Mexico I'm unaware of). As for the NDP being to the left or the right of the Liberals, I think the real issue is the way Horwaths is repositio ing the party. I really desperately want her Rob Ford approach to politics to be perceived as a failure rather than a succesful strategy that the party might continue in the future. Also, I'm pissed that she failed to support a budget that actually had some very decent proposals in it yet has so far failed to offer a better alternative. We'll see how the NDP platform looks when it's released and it'll definitely vote against theLiberals if it looks like they are n majority territory. But suppose that come Election Day the Liberals and PCs are neck and neck to win a plurality of seats in amnority legislature? I just might holdmy nose and vote Liberal for the first time in my life. They won't keep all their promises but we probably will get some transit funding and a new pension system, and that's better than anythingHorwath has proposed so far.
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"Horwath wants an extra leaders' debate on jobs and the economy posted:"One of the things I'm concerned about is that we're not focusing enough on [the economy] in this campaign," Horwath said Monday during a campaign stop at a north Toronto bakery. Are you loving making GBS threads me.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Are you loving making GBS threads me. That is amazing. I just pulled my NDP lawn sign down today. What a train wreck this election is.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Are you loving making GBS threads me. Jesus Christ. What does she think the last two weeks of campaigning have been about then?
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May 19, 2014 22:09
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At this point I feel like the ONDP are aiming for the protest/anti-PC vote and no one else.
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brucio posted:At this point I feel like the ONDP are aiming for the protest/anti-PC vote and no one else. Maybe they're going to have a surprise reveal with a few weeks to go in the campaign: "Ha! See how lovely it would be to have everyone running from the right and governing from the right? Yeah, here's our real platform. Vote for us." But this isn't pro wrestling so I guess that isn't going to happen.
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Maybe it should be. I'd be down for Tim Hudak to do the Vince McMahon strut down to the ring as people jeer at him. He swings over the ropes to the debate podiums while One Man Army plays over the PA.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Maybe it should be. I'd be down for Tim Hudak to do the Vince McMahon strut down to the ring as people jeer at him. He swings over the ropes to the debate podiums while One Man Army plays over the PA. This must include a scene where Hudak brings an illegal folding chair into parliament and branes the other party leaders with it. When called on his illegal motion he proceeds to beat up the Lieutenant Governor to the boos and jeers of the house. He is finally taken down by Jack Layton who it turns out never died at all but was trapped by his evil twin brother who had taken over the party. Rutibex fucked around with this message at 01:32 on May 20, 2014 |
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Kathleen Wynne is a terrible tractor driver, Progressive Conservatives sayquote:Ontario Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne, who is also the minister of agriculture, proved she can drive a tractor Tuesday morning but the Progressive Conservatives say her style of driving is just as dangerous as her direction for the province. Hahaha, even the National Post can't help but make the PCs look like morons! JohnnyCanuck fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 20, 2014 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:
Her outfit certainly is on message. And that message is "I AM THE GODDAMN OLP!  ".
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The NDP has a reasonable sounding proposal to reduce overcrowding in emergency rooms. Of course I have no idea whether the policies she's suggesting here would have the results she's predicting (presumably she's exaggerating at least somewhat, since every politician exagerates the effects of their proposals midway through an election campaign). Still, it'd be nice to see more stuff in this vein coming from the NDP:Global News posted:TORONTO – Ontario’s Liberal government wasted millions of dollars in a fruitless effort to reduce overcrowding in hospital emergency rooms, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath charged Tuesday as she unveiled a plan to cut ER wait times in half if her party wins the June 12 election.
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It's been a week since I last posted and I still haven't seen a single NDP sign in my riding. But I did see our very first Liberal sign today! One red sign on the main thoroughfare of the largest town in the riding. So far, that's it. There's just no excuse for this kind of foot-dragging. Between this and Horwath's populist campaign, I'm feeling pretty alienated by the NDP. I signed up to volunteer in-person last week and straight up told them, "I just graduated, I have tons of time, I have a car, put me to work." I haven't heard anything since then. What the hell, guys?
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Helsing posted:The NDP has a reasonable sounding proposal to reduce overcrowding in emergency rooms. Of course I have no idea whether the policies she's suggesting here would have the results she's predicting (presumably she's exaggerating at least somewhat, since every politician exagerates the effects of their proposals midway through an election campaign). Still, it'd be nice to see more stuff in this vein coming from the NDP: 
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Huge Liability posted:It's been a week since I last posted and I still haven't seen a single NDP sign in my riding. But I did see our very first Liberal sign today! One red sign on the main thoroughfare of the largest town in the riding. So far, that's it. You should have told them you were a temporarily down on his luck job creator. They would have given you something to do. Hell, they might let you run for them in a riding!
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Huge Liability posted:It's been a week since I last posted and I still haven't seen a single NDP sign in my riding. But I did see our very first Liberal sign today! One red sign on the main thoroughfare of the largest town in the riding. So far, that's it. I wonder if there's a conservative forum out there with someone lamenting the lack of PC signs in Trinity-Spadina. Joking aside, it sucks that your riding doesn't have its poo poo together. I'm curious what riding this is. There's no excuse for them not contacting potential volunteers. I can see if I can find the right person to give them a kick in the butt.
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Helsing posted:The NDP has a reasonable sounding proposal to reduce overcrowding in emergency rooms. Of course I have no idea whether the policies she's suggesting here would have the results she's predicting (presumably she's exaggerating at least somewhat, since every politician exagerates the effects of their proposals midway through an election campaign). Still, it'd be nice to see more stuff in this vein coming from the NDP: The NDP has a magic pipe dream. Most hospitals are running at 100% or more and are going to have to layoff nurses due to not having money. Do any parties spend five seconds asking questions to which there are easy answers before saying stupid poo poo.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:You should have told them you were a temporarily down on his luck job creator. They would have given you something to do. Hell, they might let you run for them in a riding! "I'm Business, and I'm here for my consultation."
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As a literal small business owner and job creator, who's campaign office should I visit for my sloppy blowjob? This will affect my vote.
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infernal machines posted:As a literal small business owner and job creator, who's campaign office should I visit for my sloppy blowjob? Well, Wynne seems to enjoy Quicke's with female farmers so you might want to look elsewhere.
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Lobok posted:Well, Wynne seems to enjoy Quicke's with female farmers so you might want to look elsewhere. Come now, let's be civilized. No tractor jokes.
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infernal machines posted:Come now, let's be civilized. No tractor jokes.
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I'm curious why so many folks are mad at the ONDP for rejecting the budget. I know that in the last budget the Liberals were promising to lower car insurance, and most of my friends have seen increases in the past year. Also, the Libs in all the campaign literature I've seen so far have been talking about how they implemented rent control, but so many friends in high rises are subject to Above Guideline Increases this year. I just feel like the libs have been making so many promises, getting NDP support on these promises, and then not following through? I definitely feel like Horwath is skewing right or populist in this campaign, but I feel like the candidates I've spoken to that talk about rent control, landlord licensing, lowering car insurance are definitely listening to lower income voters in their ridings. Basically, I entered the election thinking I'd vote lib, but after like a week of thought I realized the Libs have been lying to me and my friends for 10 years or so & I can't really blame the ONDP for not wanting to support them this year. What do you guys think? I'm still waiting to see an actual platform from the ONDP, though.
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sbaldrick posted:The NDP has a magic pipe dream. Most hospitals are running at 100% or more and are going to have to layoff nurses due to not having money. Yo, not to look like an NDP hack, but it seems like Horwath is saying she'd put in an extra $200 million, so wouldn't that kind of solve the issue of 'not having money'? And if they're hiring more Nurse Practitioners, wouldn't that mean they can serve more people? I just don't see it as a magic pipe dream, and actually perhaps the beginnings of a realized vision? What would your five seconds of asking questions look like? Honest question. From what I read of the article it seems like the ONDP is saying they'd spend money on the problem to reduce healthcare wait times?
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