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Moridin920 posted:Not true, China has some pretty great opportunities for exploitation going on. For example: German workers get most of the iPhone manufacturing money. They build all the components, which get shipped to China to be assembled for pennies and then the product is shipped to stores. The average wage for factory work is almost $13.75 now. I doubt you would know that because you haven't actually talked to a supplier. It is getting insanely expensive to do business in China. Also: 
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:The average wage for factory work is almost $13.75 now. I doubt you would know that because you haven't actually talked to a supplier. "whiny millenials don't want to make double minimum wage" - a thing you believe
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Literally The Worst posted:"whiny millenials don't want to make double minimum wage" - a thing you believe I have had people turn down $14.00/hr, yes.
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May 31, 2014 01:50
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I have had people turn down $14.00/hr, yes. that's because you're a piece of poo poo and nobody wants to work near you
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May 31, 2014 01:51
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Literally The Worst posted:that's because you're a piece of poo poo and nobody wants to work near you Don't be like that. I'm a people person.
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May 31, 2014 01:51
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I have had people turn down $14.00/hr, yes. therefore, nobody will work for $14 an hour
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Don't be like that. I'm a people person. a people person who doesn't actually give a poo poo about people
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I think college is kind of a hosed up concept. going to school for four years shouldn't be necessary for most careers. It should be mostly for people who really want to specialize in something particular.
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Moridin920 posted:therefore, nobody will work for $14 an hour Nobody your age, lad. Too whiny.
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Copley Depot posted:I think college is kind of a hosed up concept. going to school for four years shouldn't be necessary for most careers. It should be mostly for people who really want to specialize in something particular.
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Copley Depot posted:I think college is kind of a hosed up concept. going to school for four years shouldn't be necessary for most careers. It should be mostly for people who really want to specialize in something particular. Realtalk: This is actually a good post and something I have heard alot of talk on, both from schools and from businesses. I would almost prefer it if colleges partnered with businesses and gave students real-life work experience to add to their resume in addition to the college education. It would be a much better value for the student and make the education far more fulfilling. It would also make the school earn the 30-80k they are being paid.
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First of all, all you chuckle fucks responding to Rhonyn Peacemaker; why the gently caress haven't you put this serial troll/lier on ignore by now I'll never know but stop responding you dicks. Most people who do liberal arts degrees are probably throwing you money away. Most decent places have what is called the trades. Look into what licences are require in you state/city. My boss has been looking to hire a licensed electrician for months now. He will hire any motherfucker for $27 an hour if you can show him a licence. He may ask about you driving record before he hand you the keys to an all expense paid truck though. It takes 4 years to get a license like college, but instead of paying them they pay you. Also too many engineers is strait up stupid. I bet you there are 30,000 native Indians/Chinese working on the main Microsoft campus right now.
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May 31, 2014 01:55
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Literally The Worst posted:a people person who doesn't actually give a poo poo about people As I've said before, people are a renewable resource. If the person in front of me won't do the job, or can't, the next one will. There is a limitless supply of skill and labor out there. I pay well and take care of the people in my employ. If they stop doing their job, they don't need to be working here.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Nobody your age, lad. i would totally work for 14/hr if it didn't mean i was going to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning because my back/knees were screaming, assembling iphones for 14 sounds great your argument is undone human being
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:As I've said before, people are a renewable resource. If the person in front of me won't do the job, or can't, the next one will. YOU DON'T PAY ANYONE YOU ARE HUMAN RESOURCES YOU DON'T ACTUALLY loving EMPLOY ANYONE
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ChuckHead posted:First of all, all you chuckle fucks responding to Rhonyn Peacemaker; why the gently caress haven't you put this serial troll/lier on ignore by now I'll never know but stop responding you dicks. Chuck: Why you gotta be like that.  I Seriouspost in BFC, E/N and Games. So if people have real HR questions, I answer them there with no pretenses. If HR stuff pops up here I answer it, but people usually act like fools, and then I gotta do my thing. Can't be helped.
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May 31, 2014 01:57
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Literally The Worst posted:YOU DON'T PAY ANYONE As an agent of the company, I do employ people. I am actually an Agent of the company.
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I get $60 an hour to draw pretty pictures on people. My wife works flex time in an easy office environment for 80k+ a year. Neither of us have a degree, and college would have been a complete waste of time and money for either of us. azreal fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 31, 2014 |
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:As an agent of the company, I do employ people. I am actually an Agent of the company. no shtu up shut up with your dumb lovely troll
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Literally The Worst posted:no shtu up shut up with your dumb lovely troll You are too angry. You need to relax. If you want, I can make a position and hire you for my company.
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May 31, 2014 02:00
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realtalk a huge part of the problem is the popular idea that college is the only way to go and the demonization of skilled labor
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Literally The Worst posted:realtalk a huge part of the problem is the popular idea that college is the only way to go and the demonization of skilled labor Truth.
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Literally The Worst posted:realtalk a huge part of the problem is the popular idea that college is the only way to go and the demonization of skilled labor Also realtalk: I completely agree! Skilled labor is at an all-time premium right now and I have been trying to tell people that if they have kids that show mechanical aptitude but not mental, that is OK. There are a shitton of technical and trade schools that will teach them all about the wonders of skilled labor and those kids will grow up to make mean wages.
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May 31, 2014 02:01
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I know you are ignorant, but I will respond to this anyways. you are really loving stupid.
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Barfoid 3 posted:you are really loving stupid. How, could you possibly, of all of my posts, argue with that one?  Barfoid. Just You really are a pubbie.
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gently caress you, BUSINESSMAN, your hurting the world  I have a friend who is convinced that he has nothing to gain and everything to lose by going to college. He has assured me that because of all the debt you accrue from going to a university college grads will never catch up to someone who went to work right out of high school. He's not wrong depending on the field but then again he has zero marketable skills and has never been formally employed before so maybe I should get a second opinion.
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but also gently caress you, businessman, why you hatin' on all the millennials?
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well. ok, I guess college can get you laid a lot.
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Chrispurple posted:but also gently caress you, businessman, why you hatin' on all the millennials? Realtalk: I'm not. I just know it gets moridin all worked up into one of his crying fits. I know he is at home crying into his cock-shaped pillow. Perhaps he is pouring his soul out onto the tear-stained pages of dear diary. I don't have an issue hiring millennials. However, the least experienced can be a little more whiny than most.
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Rhonyn, I'm sorry that the most value you add to your company is to protect them from employee lawsuits. Wait, that is actually really valuable.
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keyvin posted:Rhonyn, I'm sorry that the most value you add to your company is to protect them from employee lawsuits. Wait, that is actually really valuable. it's funny cause hr's not about helping the workers at all by any definition of their job, company first people a distant second
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keyvin posted:Rhonyn, I'm sorry that the most value you add to your company is to protect them from employee lawsuits. Wait, that is actually really valuable. That is "minimizing loss". However, I also do a bunch of other things HR-related, including negotiations. Most HR managers save the company hilarious amounts of money by renegotiating contracts with service providers, insurance companies, etc. I I look at my contracts every year to see if I can squeeze my providers for another dime. Just in case.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Realtalk: I'm not. I just know it gets moridin all worked up into one of his crying fits. I know he is at home crying into his cock-shaped pillow. Perhaps he is pouring his soul out onto the tear-stained pages of dear diary. Well that's fair enough. In that case you can continue to destabilize foreign nations with my blessing. That's what HR directors do right?
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Chrispurple posted:Well that's fair enough. In that case you can continue to destabilize foreign nations with my blessing. That's what HR directors do right? If you are doing it right, you are.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:That is "minimizing loss". However, I also do a bunch of other things HR-related, including negotiations. Most HR managers save the company hilarious amounts of money by renegotiating contracts with service providers, insurance companies, etc. Don't forget migrating the rank and file employees to a high deductible plan to cut costs!
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keyvin posted:Don't forget migrating the rank and file employees to a high deductible plan to cut costs! Last year we had considered a high deductible plan, but tossed it out, because it would not have been under the PPACA provisions. This year, a High Deductible plan as an option, in addition to other options, giving our employees choice, was reasonable, as the PPACA gives an out of pocket annual maximum of $6,350 for an individual. Most businesses only sign up individuals, so a $6000 or a $5500 deductible only made sense.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Last year we had considered a high deductible plan, but tossed it out, because it would not have been under the PPACA provisions. This year, a High Deductible plan as an option, in addition to other options, giving our employees choice, was reasonable, as the PPACA gives an out of pocket annual maximum of $6,350 for an individual. Most businesses only sign up individuals, so a $6000 or a $5500 deductible only made sense. Yeah I worked at a publicly traded company for a time that added a high deductible option - that within a year was the only option. HR said it was because the business wasn't doing as well. This is the exact opposite that the company reported in their shareholder reports. Nobody but myself and my boss bothered to read the report. Most people are stupid sheep. I'm glad you make a lot of money and stuff, but your a professional weasel and a likely sociopath.
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keyvin posted:Yeah I worked at a publicly traded company for a time that added a high deductible option - that within a year was the only option. HR said it was because the business wasn't doing as well. This is the exact opposite that the company reported in their shareholder reports. Nobody but myself and my boss bothered to read the report. Most people are stupid sheep. It sounds like this guy, had a bad experience
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Peacemaker's my favorite polarizing poster.
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