TG June Chat Thread: JuneJune's Bizarre Adventure

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Gau: Nov 18, 2003; I don't think you understand, Gau.

ProfessorCirno posted:

Swordmages can take a feat to MBA with intelligence rather then strength. Bards don't really use MBAs.

EDIT: And most characters, if they truly do care about basic attacks, can take Melee Training to get the same.

Yes, but a class based on being awesome with a sword having to expend a feat to be able to be awesome with a sword is pretty crappy.

THE FEAT TAXES ARE TOO drat HIGH :argh:

# ? Jun 6, 2014 20:27

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:36

whydirt: Apr 18, 2001; Gaz Posting Brigade

Freebase also has the best alignment system ever used in an RPG.

quote:

LG [Liberal Granola]:
Knows that mass social protest is the only way to defeat THE MAN.

LN [Liberal Noncommittal]:
Buys bumper-stickers against THE MAN on occasion, and would like to rise up against his oppressors and end this cruel reign of tyranny, but prefers Dead shows.

LE [Liberal Establishment]:
Sells bumper-sticks against THE MAN and T-shirts for Dead shows; pretending to be part of the movement for social change, yet profiteering off his fellow brothers and sisters, finally becoming part of the System that has forced our children to go to die in 'Nam.

NG [Noncommittal Granola]:
Bought a couple of shirts, thinking this helps, but only practices Iron Butterfly riffs in the garage while the gears of government run by fascist weapon industries crush his remaining freedom.

TN [True Noncommittal]:
Is happy to live in whatever Orwellian hell is presented to him, unknowingly disposing of his own, and hence others, right of choice.

NE [Noncommittal Establishment]:
Buys into the propaganda machine of his mom's Rosie the Riveter days, and does not question the Draft, though it will mean his end.

CG [Conservative Granola]:
Blindly puts faith in other's power to change the world he is increasingly shackled by.

CN [Conservative Noncommittal]:
Voted for Tricky Dick because he liked his speaking voice.

CE [Conservative Establishment]:
THE MAN.

# ? Jun 6, 2014 20:31

P.d0t: Dec 27, 2007; I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Is there a thread to request PbP games?

# ? Jun 6, 2014 20:39

DocBubonic: Mar 11, 2003; Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis

P.d0t posted:

Is there a thread to request PbP games?

I don't think there's a thread for that, so you might want to say what you're interested in.

# ? Jun 6, 2014 21:04

P.d0t: Dec 27, 2007; I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Well, for example, I looked at this and was just like :wtc:

So basically, a D&D 4e game where I don't have write a goddamn novella for my backstory and/or memorize setting books to 'fit in'. Also, I don't use either character builder, so being able to just do a fillable PDF for character sheets would be nice (got enough books to make most of the characters I'd want to do anyway, I'm not huge into char-op). Hell, an Essentials-only game would probably even be fine. I just hate poo poo where everyone is a zombie robot or it's in an annoying setting; I could probably suffer through Dark Sun, but I'd prefer points of light or a succinctly laid out homebrew setting.

I'm playing in a D&D Next game right now, wouldn't mind jumping in on another one. Although the published adventures I've seen are kinda railroady poo poo, so if someone wanted to homebrew something, that'd probably be better.

Otherwise, maybe AW or DW, although I've never been much into... whatever genre AW falls into. I saw the XCOM-themed AW game posted and I was like "uhhhh I don't play vidya games, so clearly this isn't for me." I probably wouldn't mind a 13th Age game (I just cringe when people get zany with their OUTs and such) but I haven't bought any of the materials since I'm not sold on the game. The amount of 3rd party bloat is already getting out of control, IMHO.

Overall, something I either already have the materials for or where materials are freely available, and would be newbie friendly/learn as you go kinda thing. Either people new to the system, or new to PbP (Next game is my first PbP).

P.d0t fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jun 6, 2014

# ? Jun 6, 2014 21:43

DigitalRaven: Oct 9, 2012

Error 404 posted:

I really need to find a copy of Buttery HoLsomeness. I only have HoL.

I actually tried the character creation in ButtHoL. It was kinda fun, in a "Holy poo poo how many charts?" kind of way.

Also, FREEBASE is even better than people are making it sound.

# ? Jun 6, 2014 22:36

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005

FMguru posted:

ButtHoL not only has the greatest character random generation system ever, it also has the greatest set of LARP rules ever published.

My favorite part was the forest with orcs.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 00:34

Libertad!: Oct 30, 2013; You can have the last word, but I'll have the last laugh!

Did you guys hear the news? Mikan's doing a Pathfinder adventure path/setting/player options book, Across the Unforgiving Sea!

Also going to be available for 13th Age.

I'm sort of surprised in that he never struck me as much of a 3rd Edition fan, but he has a clear head on his shoulders when it comes to addressing the common flaws of D&D, so I have faith he'll do something cool with this.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 01:18

Rulebook Heavily: Sep 18, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

Yeah no one who works with Mikan knows why.

Why anything.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 01:23

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

Libertad! posted:

Did you guys hear the news? Mikan's doing a Pathfinder adventure path/setting/player options book, Across the Unforgiving Sea!

Also going to be available for 13th Age.

I'm sort of surprised in that he never struck me as much of a 3rd Edition fan, but he has a clear head on his shoulders when it comes to addressing the common flaws of D&D, so I have faith he'll do something cool with this.

It was pretty much on a dare, but Mikan is determined to do a bang-up job on this. I'm pretty excited about the promised exploration themes. I've tried my hand at running a sort of "new world" exploration game in Pathfinder before and I think I stand to get a lot from Mikan's work here.

I've come to enjoy Pathfinder in spite of all its flaws, so having someone who actually knows a thing or two ABOUT designing games work on something for it is very exciting.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 01:24

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005

Rulebook Heavily posted:

Yeah no one who works with Mikan knows why.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 01:24

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

Libertad! posted:

Did you guys hear the news? Mikan's doing a Pathfinder adventure path/setting/player options book, Across the Unforgiving Sea!

Also going to be available for 13th Age.

I'm sort of surprised in that he never struck me as much of a 3rd Edition fan, but he has a clear head on his shoulders when it comes to addressing the common flaws of D&D, so I have faith he'll do something cool with this.

Someone dared him on Twitter. It's been kind of funny reading him talk about how designing for a system he doesn't like is good practice.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 01:24

Hashtag Yoloswag: Mar 24, 2013; ...I'm sorry. I can't seem to remember any of the rest.

Rulebook Heavily posted:

Yeah no one who works with Mikan knows why.

Why anything.

Peer pressure

# ? Jun 7, 2014 02:26

Rulebook Heavily: Sep 18, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

That is one of the great forces in Mikan's life, yes.

In other news,

I wrote a book, it is now in print.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 02:40

dwarf74: Sep 2, 2012; Buglord

What the ever living gently caress? :gonk:

SKR leaves Paizo, and now he's sounding all reasonable-like.

http://seankreynolds.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/ex-su-and-martial-characters/

Money quote:

quote:

By getting rid of the idea that you have to define special abilities as either �magic� or �not magic,� you also get rid of the idea that �martial characters don�t have magic, and therefore can�t do amazing things because they�re limited to what nonmagical people can do in the real world.

In other words, if you decide that a level 5 fighter with a shield can deflect a spell back on the caster if he succeeds at his saving throw, that would be okay, for the same reason, because you don�t have to decide �is this something a real, exceptional person could do in the real world?� If you decide that a level 10 fighter is so eager for battle that he can jump 30 feet and still make a full attack, that would be okay, for the same reason. If you decide a level 15 fighter is such a badass combatant that all allies within 30 feet of him deal +25% melee and ranged damage, that would be okay, for the same reason. It wouldn�t matter that the fighter is a �mundane� character who �doesn�t have any magic;� he could still do incredible things that bend Earth�s laws of reality or are even impossible according to Earth�s physics.

All you have to do is decide that the difference between Ex and Su is �long ago, GMs had to use AMF to fudge the game so wizards wouldn�t dominate adventures, and ever since then nonmagical characters have been paying the price for it, and it�s time for that to stop.�

# ? Jun 7, 2014 02:49

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

"Except Monks, gently caress those guys."

# ? Jun 7, 2014 03:02

S.J.: May 19, 2008; Just who the hell do you think we are?

So, something 4e already did? :v:

# ? Jun 7, 2014 03:05

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005

dwarf74 posted:

What the ever living gently caress?

SKR leaves Paizo, and now he's sounding all reasonable-like.

http://seankreynolds.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/ex-su-and-martial-characters/

Money quote:

Awesome, why didn't you do any of this while you were the head designer for one of the top three RPGs selling today?

(SKR gets hired by another company, releases Pathfinder 2.0 - Seriously Don't Play Anything That Can't Cast Spells)

# ? Jun 7, 2014 03:06

S.J.: May 19, 2008; Just who the hell do you think we are?

So why's he leaving Paizo, anyways?

# ? Jun 7, 2014 03:20

Ettin: Oct 2, 2010

IIRC it was basically just "I've been working here long enough and living in the city sucks, I think I'd rather go hang out with my family and friends. PS gently caress monks".

# ? Jun 7, 2014 03:37

Yalborap: Oct 13, 2012

P.d0t posted:

Otherwise, maybe AW or DW, although I've never been much into... whatever genre AW falls into. I saw the XCOM-themed AW game posted and I was like "uhhhh I don't play vidya games, so clearly this isn't for me." I probably wouldn't mind a 13th Age game (I just cringe when people get zany with their OUTs and such) but I haven't bought any of the materials since I'm not sold on the game. The amount of 3rd party bloat is already getting out of control, IMHO.

Overall, something I either already have the materials for or where materials are freely available, and would be newbie friendly/learn as you go kinda thing. Either people new to the system, or new to PbP (Next game is my first PbP).

Dog, you should've applied to the X-COM game.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 06:10

P.d0t: Dec 27, 2007; I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Yalborap posted:

Dog, you should've applied to the X-COM game.

Bro, I didn't know what the gently caress anyone was talking about in that recruit. I have never played X-COM, nor AW.
And honestly, I started reading the playbooks and I got gunshy because HOLY gently caress I haven't played Fallout either.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 09:17

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

AW has exceptionally little to do with Fallout though?

# ? Jun 7, 2014 09:19

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Mr. Maltose posted:

AW has exceptionally little to do with Fallout though?

Yeah. In particular, AW's more about community building (not always but often, especially if you have a Hocus or Hardholder), inter-person tensions, and psychic weirdness than the wandering murderhobo style of Fallout. It definitely isn't a Fallout adaptation. And you pretty much need zero exposure to the post-apocalyptic genre other than knowing that stuff's scarce and the world's broken.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 12:20

Lemon-Lime: Aug 6, 2009

AW is explicitly both narratively and mechanically structured around a TV series format where the protagonists share a few locations and not much else. It's also explicitly about community and the effects that post-apocalyptic scarcity has on that, even if you somehow manage to avoid taking any of the community-oriented playbooks.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 12:33

Doodmons: Jan 17, 2009

P.d0t, if I ran a (short, so that the game doesn't die a death) as-close-to-generic-D&D as possible Dungeon World PBP does that seem like the sort of thing you would be interested in? Probably some sort of large, relatively freeform dungeon crawl. Likely using the rewrites of the core classes plus a few of the more D&D ones like the monk, rather than the more out-there ones like the Lantern etc.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 12:36

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

Doodmons posted:

P.d0t, if I ran a (short, so that the game doesn't die a death) as-close-to-generic-D&D as possible Dungeon World PBP does that seem like the sort of thing you would be interested in? Probably some sort of large, relatively freeform dungeon crawl. Likely using the rewrites of the core classes plus a few of the more D&D ones like the monk, rather than the more out-there ones like the Lantern etc.

Oh god, don't encourage him.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 12:41

turn it up TURN ME ON: Mar 19, 2012; In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.

Has anyone ever played the Judge Dread mini's game? I see it had a kickstarter a couple years back and I always see boxes for it at my FLGS but know nothing about it.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 18:26

DalaranJ: Apr 15, 2008; Yosuke will now die for you.

SquadronROE posted:

Has anyone ever played the Judge Dread mini's game? I see it had a kickstarter a couple years back and I always see boxes for it at my FLGS but know nothing about it.

I've never played but it's by mongoose publishing and I'm pretty sure the rules can be found on their site for free.

The justice department is the equivalent of the space marines in that they are much tougher and more expensive than the other armies. They have a special rule that allows them to 'arrest' enemies that fail a morale check. The other armies are all street gangs or block gangs and such. (Other than the justice department the other all 'hero' force is the Angel gang.)

# ? Jun 7, 2014 21:33

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

I've read on the Mikan thing and I'm really appalled on his behavior. If there is something that this stupid dying industry who will not survive for the next 10 years needs, is artistic integrity from people who work on it.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:20

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

Aren't you still banned from chat threads?

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:24

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

I've read on the Mikan thing and I'm really appalled on his behavior. If there is something that this stupid dying industry who will not survive for the next 10 years needs, is artistic integrity from people who work on it.

Are you talking about Mikan running Pathfinder at a convention?

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:28

Error 404: Jul 17, 2009; MAGE CURES PLOT

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

I've read on the Mikan thing and I'm really appalled on his behavior. If there is something that this stupid dying industry who will not survive for the next 10 years needs, is artistic integrity from people who work on it.

So you're mad there might be a pathfinder splat worth using?

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:30

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

I doubt Plutonis has gotten mad at anything on the Internet at any time.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:31

Gau: Nov 18, 2003; I don't think you understand, Gau.

I just love that a dude who absconded from the forums in the most patronizing fashion because we aren't progressive enough is now doing a Pathfinder book.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:32

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

Mr. Maltose posted:

I doubt Plutonis has gotten mad at anything on the Internet at any time.

It's only words, on an electronic screen. There is no need to be upset by those.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:33

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

Gau posted:

I just love that a dude who absconded from the forums in the most patronizing fashion because we aren't progressive enough is now doing a Pathfinder book.

Mikan left in part because people wouldn't stop making GBS threads on you, but okay.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:35

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Gau posted:

I just love that a dude who absconded from the forums in the most patronizing fashion because we aren't progressive enough is now doing a Pathfinder book.

I just love that you keep posting in this forum like we don't all know you're a literal thief but for some reason you gotta slam on one of the few people who actually wanted people to stop making GBS threads on you.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:40

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; by zen death robot

Gau has a self destructive personality, i just pity him.

# ? Jun 7, 2014 23:45

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:36

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I just love that you keep posting in this forum like we don't all know you're a literal thief but for some reason you gotta slam on one of the few people who actually wanted people to stop making GBS threads on you.

I just love all the dirt I'd have on you if remembering things about other posters wasn't in extremely bad taste and criminal.

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

I've read on the Mikan thing and I'm really appalled on his behavior. If there is something that this stupid dying industry who will not survive for the next 10 years needs, is artistic integrity from people who work on it.

Well, you know, the GOON MONEY well has run dry, so now it's time to get some of those sweet Paizobucks.

# ? Jun 8, 2014 00:11

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