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Ah that makes sense, thanks for that, it'll save me some bucks.
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I have what I am assuming is a simple issue with a simple fix. I installed an ssd in my optical bay on my Windows laptop. I cloned my drive to the ssd and currently have both drives in the laptop. I moved the ssd up before the original drive in bios, but it still boots to the original drive. If I remove the original drive the ssd boots up. How do I get the ssd to be the boot drive. FWIW the laptop is a Thinkpad T430.
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oneof27 posted:I have what I am assuming is a simple issue with a simple fix. Hit F12 when you boot and see if you can choose the new drive and boot off it. What did you clone the drive with?
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http://www.todo-backup.com/products/home/free-backup-software.htm That's the program I used. EaseUS Todo Backup. Maybe I am dense, but beyond setting the boot order for the drives in bios I can't find a way to select the drive. I will try F12 like you suggested now.
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Manually boot from the SSD once using the boot menu. It's sometimes F10, or F9, or F1, or Esc depending on what he programmer liked most while he wrote the BIOS. Once you are started into the new Windows you can then use "msconfig" to delete the boot sector from the old partition. msconfig will only allow you to delete a boot sector from the drive you're not currently booting from so there's no risk.
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Yep! Thanks. That did the trick. I knew it was something very simple I didn't know. I knew the speed would be faster, but I am still in awe.
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So it was booting from the SSD but since the MBR was copied from the HDD it was hard pointing to the HDD?
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By the way if you haven't upgraded from Windows 7 to 8 yet, do that, the speed will be even higher.
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peak debt posted:By the way if you haven't upgraded from Windows 7 to 8 yet, do that, the speed will be even higher. Most of the improvements only exist in the minds of the MS marketing department - I can't say I've seen anything noticeable (aside from boot in some circumstances) and it certainly isn't enough to be worth putting up with the other annoyances.
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dissss posted:Most of the improvements only exist in the minds of the MS marketing department - I can't say I've seen anything noticeable (aside from boot in some circumstances) and it certainly isn't enough to be worth putting up with the other annoyances. That being said will there be any noticable performance difference for NVMe drives comparing Windows 7 and 8(.1)? Also are NVMe PCIe device bootable?
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Aquila posted:That being said will there be any noticable performance difference for NVMe drives comparing Windows 7 and 8(.1)? Also are NVMe PCIe device bootable?
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Is this a normal thing to see in HD Tune for an SSD or is something not quite right?
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Loonytoad Quack posted:Is this a normal thing to see in HD Tune for an SSD or is something not quite right?
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Alereon posted:That seems about right for a Samsung 830. Do confirm that it has the latest firmware, isn't too full, and that TRIM is enabled. Running a TRIM pass with the Samsung SSD Magician software wouldn't be a bad idea either. Is there a reason you think there's a problem? Because I'm getting occasional microsecond hitches in games when reading from disk that I never used to get, and I'm going through an incredibly painful process of trying to pin down what's causing it. This just looked a bit weird to me (the variation at the beginning was even worse before I did a TRIM pass with Magician) so I wanted to check if it was normal or not. It's on the latest firmware, has 80GB free and TRIM is enabled.
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Is PNY Optima 240GB better than Crucial 256GB MX100? Both of those go for the same price (99.90euro) and I'm looking for the cheapest possible 7mm drive to replace a broken harddrive, durability > speed.
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makere posted:Is PNY Optima 240GB better than Crucial 256GB MX100?
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Shaocaholica posted:So it was booting from the SSD but since the MBR was copied from the HDD it was hard pointing to the HDD? I'm not sure. I had gone into bios and set the SSD higher, but that didn't set it as THE boot drive. Not until I went into F12 as was suggested and selected it. My novice level skills failed me at the last step. Now It's all good though!
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Is there any reason installing an SSD (Samsung 840 Evo) would mess up installing programs? I walked my brother through installing an SSD on his system (X4 3.2ghz 4gigs of ram) and the two programs he uses the most, Steam & Skype, are both having problems. Skype can't connect to the download server for some reason and Steam just sets every game download at pending. I'll post in the Haughs of Tech Support if this isn't a simple fix, but it was just weird that he immediately had problems when we installed on the SSD.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Is there any reason installing an SSD (Samsung 840 Evo) would mess up installing programs? I walked my brother through installing an SSD on his system (X4 3.2ghz 4gigs of ram) and the two programs he uses the most, Steam & Skype, are both having problems. Skype can't connect to the download server for some reason and Steam just sets every game download at pending. I'll post in the Haughs of Tech Support if this isn't a simple fix, but it was just weird that he immediately had problems when we installed on the SSD. Installing an SSD shouldn't cause programs to have issues unless the SSD is faulty somehow. I'd definitely do a Haus post.
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18 months ago I bought a new laptop, it came with a HDD so I added an mSata drive. mSata drives were aplenty & reasonably prices and the whole process was super simple and the results were excellent. A colleague is looking for a new laptop and would like to go the same route so has asked me for advice on the matter. I've not really paid much attention since the research I did for myself 18 months a go, but all I expected were for mSata drives to be a bit cheaper/faster/more space. But is seems that 1) mSata slots in laptops are not nearly as common as I'd imagined 2) Newer (but certainly not a majority) laptops are opting for NGFF/M.2 (?) slots instead. 3) NGFF/M.2 drive are not readily avaiable (or are they under /another/ name?) 4) mSata drives do not fit in these newer slots I guess my question is, will there be more availability of these types of drives in the next couple of months, or is this all bleading edge and not what I should be recommending right now? - in which case I need to get over to the Laptop thread to try and narrow down which upper mid range laptops can take a mSata. e: vvv I should have mentioned being in the UK. Though if you have a couple on sale then we shouldn't be that far behind I suppose. MeKeV fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Interesting that the only M2 drive on NewEgg is the Intel 530
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Bob Morales posted:Interesting that the only M2 drive on NewEgg is the Intel 530 Amazon has this but it's expensive and the longer form factor that won't fit in a lot of machines.
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There's always these:  DDR3 + M.2. I'm sure this will catch on.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Amazon has this but it's expensive and the longer form factor that won't fit in a lot of machines.
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Anandtech gave a pretty glowing review of the Crucial MX100 drives. Are they still not recommended? I ask because Amazon has the 256GB for $99 and 512GB for $199 which seems like a pretty good deal.
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teagone posted:Anandtech gave a pretty glowing review of the Crucial MX100 drives. Are they still not recommended? I ask because Amazon has the 256GB for $99 and 512GB for $199 which seems like a pretty good deal. On the other hand, if you're willing to take that risk, well, the price:performance:space ratio on them is really very good (as long as you stay away from the 128GB version).
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DrDork posted:The hold on recommendations has little to do with their performance (which is about all Anandtech was reviewing) and more to do with the fact that Crucial has had a bad track-record with reliability. A drive that shits itself at 5,000 hours isn't going to have a problem passing some stress-tests and benchmarking well, but isn't exactly something that we'd want to recommend you purchase, you know? So until a bit of time goes by and more "early adopters" have a chance to find out if the MX100 follows closely in the long line of firmware-based fuckups from Crucial, it's hard to recommend without reservation. Thanks for the advice. I might pull the trigger on the 512GB MX100 because my 250GB Samsung EVO is filling up fast thanks to Steam in-home streaming making me want to stockpile games to serve client PCs around the house. Does it make any difference in recommendation if the Crucial drive is only going to be used as a destination to install games? teagone fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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teagone posted:Thanks for the advice. I might pull the trigger on the 512GB MX100 because my 250GB Samsung EVO is filling up fast thanks to Steam in-home streaming making me want to stockpile games to serve client PCs around the house. Does it make any difference in recommendation if the Crucial drive is only going to be used as a destination to install games?
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Anandtech has posted part 2 of their Intel SSD DC P3700 NVMe SSD review, this part focusing on client workloads.
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DrDork posted:The hold on recommendations has little to do with their performance (which is about all Anandtech was reviewing) and more to do with the fact that Crucial has had a bad track-record with reliability. A drive that shits itself at 5,000 hours isn't going to have a problem passing some stress-tests and benchmarking well, but isn't exactly something that we'd want to recommend you purchase, you know? So until a bit of time goes by and more "early adopters" have a chance to find out if the MX100 follows closely in the long line of firmware-based fuckups from Crucial, it's hard to recommend without reservation. Speaking of 5k, was there ever a postmortem on what the gently caress that bug was? It's not a power-of-two overflow that I can see unless they were counting time in 4.2 millisecond increments or something equally "creative". So some kind of periodic sanity check that went horribly wrong because it was never tested?
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Harik posted:Speaking of 5k, was there ever a postmortem on what the gently caress that bug was? It's not a power-of-two overflow that I can see unless they were counting time in 4.2 millisecond increments or something equally "creative". So some kind of periodic sanity check that went horribly wrong because it was never tested? Edit: 5184 in Hex is the number of minutes in a day in Decimal. Coincidence? I think not! Tunga fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Harik posted:Speaking of 5k, was there ever a postmortem on what the gently caress that bug was? It's not a power-of-two overflow that I can see unless they were counting time in 4.2 millisecond increments or something equally "creative". So some kind of periodic sanity check that went horribly wrong because it was never tested? Most likely, but who knows? Crucial's never going to say in public. It doesn't have to be a power of 2 overflow, but it could be anyways because the counter could be operating off any random reference frequency rather than a nice round 1s interval or whatever.
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DrDork posted:the long line of firmware-based fuckups from Crucial, it's hard to recommend without reservation. Did they gently caress up other drives like the C300 or just the M4? I know the V4 was a colossal fuckup but we'll forget that ever happened.
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The C300 had a variety of small issues and some big ones. Not like, varying severity. As in, some affected a lot of people for a long time, and some affected only a few people for a long time. These were problems that led to a lot of instability, mostly in the form of random multiple-of-60-second pauses during which the system couldn't perform any disk access (and when the SSD is a system disk, that means no paging, so even your web browser will eventually grind to a halt). They took like six months to acknowledge the problem in the first place, pushed out some fixes that only fixed most of the problems over the next year, then hosed off and stopped supporting the drive once the M4 came out.
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Help, Im getting write errors on my new drive! I tried all day to get my OS moved onto my new 840 Evo drive and I think I got a lemon. My OS is on a 300 gig drive. I resized it way down below my new 250gig Evo. I tried cloning it with EaseUS. I tried the reflect softwear in the OP. Every single one failed when imaging the new drive (both while window is booted and in a recovery environment). Every single time it was a "write error." AHCI is enabled, trim is enabled, my OS drive has no bad sectors, (it was checked by windows), the OS drive has been fragmented. edit: windows checked the ssd, no problems found spunkshui fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Dimes to dollars it's a bum drive. Most hard drive and SSD diagnostics are pretty bad at actually detecting failures. Before you return/RMA the drive, though, try using a different SATA cable - the one you're using now might be too noisy to function at full speed while passing rinky-dink tests just fine.
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Factory Factory posted:Dimes to dollars it's a bum drive. Most hard drive and SSD diagnostics are pretty bad at actually detecting failures. Before you return/RMA the drive, though, try using a different SATA cable - the one you're using now might be too noisy to function at full speed while passing rinky-dink tests just fine. Trying new cable right now. I was assuming cables would either completely work or not.
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It worked! I had to try 2 more cables. The third cable was one already being used so I knew it was reliable. Time to toss some cables.
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Am I correct in assuming that the PNY XLR8 Pro works like the Intel 530, where it works well without TRIM or any of that stuff? I'm trying to think of a good SSD to toss in a PS4, and at the 480 GB level, the PNY is $100 less than the Intel.
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Lolcano Eruption posted:Am I correct in assuming that the PNY XLR8 Pro works like the Intel 530, where it works well without TRIM or any of that stuff?
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