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Obviously the Giants will take Dan Uggla. And then he will turn it around and hit 40 home runs. 
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peepoogenderparts posted:Obviously the Giants will take Dan Uggla. And then he will turn it around and hit 40 home runs.
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Crion posted:Between Cespedes and Puig we're getting an absolute clinic this year on why arm is a separate tool not lumped in with the rest of a player's defensive package. Good god these "great plays" If you took an infielder with a great arm for an infielder and moved him to the outfield, would the tool translate to being a great outfield arm or is outfield a completely different level of "great arm"?
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Jun 12, 2014 14:37
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Is Cespedes a lovely outfielder or not? Both of the highlights I've seen show a ridiculous arm that he wouldn't have needed to use had he not flubbed the ball in the first place. Reminds me of watching Rick Ankiel in the outfield.
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Jun 12, 2014 14:38
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From what I've seen he's fairly limited in most aspects of the outfield. It just so happens that he's used his one superb defensive tool to good effect on 2 consecutive nights - no-one is making gifs of the times he's misplayed a ball and allowed a runner to score or take an extra base.
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tadashi posted:If you took an infielder with a great arm for an infielder and moved him to the outfield, would the tool translate to being a great outfield arm or is outfield a completely different level of "great arm"? Arm is arm, that's why all the fat 3B prospects get moved to RF instead of LF
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tadashi posted:If you took an infielder with a great arm for an infielder and moved him to the outfield, would the tool translate to being a great outfield arm or is outfield a completely different level of "great arm"? Infield and outfield "arms" are of different qualities. An infield arm needs to be strong and accurate over about 100-150 feet, with the quicker release the better. It also needs to be accompanied by a quick mind, to read the situation and throw to the right base on the fly. An outfield arm needs to make strong throws with a crow's hop usually over 200 feet. Accuracy and release time are less importance on a hit to the outfield, as the target is usually the cut-off man who can move around. In basic terms: strong, inaccurate arm = outfield; quick, accurate arm = infield.
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Jun 12, 2014 15:05
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My years coaching have taught me that you can move a third baseman to the outfield a lot more readily than you can move an outfielder to the hot corner.
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Crion posted:Between Cespedes and Puig we're getting an absolute clinic this year on why arm is a separate tool not lumped in with the rest of a player's defensive package. Good god these "great plays" Pretty sure the point is to get outs, nerd. Can't do that cleanly fielding a grounder in the outfield. FairGame posted:Is Cespedes a lovely outfielder or not? Both of the highlights I've seen show a ridiculous arm that he wouldn't have needed to use had he not flubbed the ball in the first place. These have both involved him misplaying the ball (although really this most recent one was more than it took a weird bounce off the wall), but he is generally a pretty good outfielder. He can take goofy routes but he's a freak athlete and that usually makes up for it. He would probably be playing center on a lot of teams. Derek Agony posted:From what I've seen he's fairly limited in most aspects of the outfield. It just so happens that he's used his one superb defensive tool to good effect on 2 consecutive nights - no-one is making gifs of the times he's misplayed a ball and allowed a runner to score or take an extra base. He's really fast too.
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Dr. Tommy John posted:My years coaching have taught me that you can move a third baseman to the outfield a lot more readily than you can move an outfielder to the hot corner. I moved from outfield to 3b pretty easily but I was a 2b/ss growing up, so I dunno. You do have to have pretty good reaction time for 3b obviously, and a death wish.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Rosenthal says the Giants may try to trade for a second baseman. Brandon Hicks was looking like a nice find off the scrap heap for a minute, but lately he's turned back into the guy he was in the minors: hits a dinger occasionally but not much else, and he strikes out a ton. Are there any decent 2B who might be available at the deadline? Cause I think the Giants should upgrade if they can. We have a Rickie Weeks available...
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The Pussy Boss posted:Rosenthal says the Giants may try to trade for a second baseman. Brandon Hicks was looking like a nice find off the scrap heap for a minute, but lately he's turned back into the guy he was in the minors: hits a dinger occasionally but not much else, and he strikes out a ton. Are there any decent 2B who might be available at the deadline? Cause I think the Giants should upgrade if they can. Gordon Beckham.
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Jun 12, 2014 16:26
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The Cubs have a 2nd baseman available
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Bonifacio is exactly the type of guy the Giants would pick up and win a World Series with, and him being playoff/WS MVP somehow.
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Bonifaciowns. He also gets tootblanned a ton.
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Combo posted:I moved from outfield to 3b pretty easily but I was a 2b/ss growing up, so I dunno. You do have to have pretty good reaction time for 3b obviously, and a death wish. And a good cup.
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Jun 12, 2014 16:43
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If Pujols had actually gotten low and slid into third rather than just awkwardly falling over toward the end of the basepath, he very well might have been safe. Also it is hilarious watching him run.
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Jun 12, 2014 16:47
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The Mariners are actually still in the wild card hunt, despite recently and regularly featuring a lineup that has Endy Chavez, Cole Gillespie and Willie Bloomquist. Oh, now LoMo too.
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The Midniter posted:If Pujols had actually gotten low and slid into third rather than just awkwardly falling over toward the end of the basepath, he very well might have been safe. Also it is hilarious watching him run. It also required Donaldson making a pretty athletic play to tag him, but shush and just enjoy the rocket arm, you killjoy.
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seiferguy posted:The Mariners are actually still in the wild card hunt, despite recently and regularly featuring a lineup that has Endy Chavez, Cole Gillespie and Willie Bloomquist. Oh, now LoMo too. Does LoMo still have an 80 Twitter tool?
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Jun 12, 2014 17:17
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Aren't like 25 teams still in the wild card hunt? We're 65 games in.
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Where In The World Is Carlos Marmol? http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24585530/carlos-marmol-left-reds-triple-a-affiliate-without-permission quote:The Reds made a transaction Wednesday involving embattled reliever Carlos Marmol, and it was placing him on the restricted list due to his leaving the Triple-A affiliate (Louisville Bats) without permision (via Jamie Ramsey).
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Jun 12, 2014 17:19
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Great thing about Marmol, I saw him pitch against the Iron Pigs on the 5th - he (unsurprisingly) struck out four, but gave up a pinch-hit dinger to Greg Smith. Who is an org-filler starting pitcher.
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The_Hat posted:Where In The World Is Carlos Marmol? [X] Strikeout [X] Walk [X] Home Run [X] Wild Pitch
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Jun 12, 2014 17:29
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Seattle called up "1B Jesus Montero".
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The Pussy Boss posted:Rosenthal says the Giants may try to trade for a second baseman. Brandon Hicks was looking like a nice find off the scrap heap for a minute, but lately he's turned back into the guy he was in the minors: hits a dinger occasionally but not much else, and he strikes out a ton. Are there any decent 2B who might be available at the deadline? Cause I think the Giants should upgrade if they can. Given how Dozier has taken off the Twins would probably be willing to trade Eddie Rosario now 
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The_Hat posted:Where In The World Is Carlos Marmol? Reminder that Austin Kearns was placed on the bereavement last May by the Marlins and then wasn't heard from again until it was announced he'd become a free agent after the season. He wasn't playing very well but it just seems weird to have a player fall off the map like that.
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uggy posted:Aren't like 25 teams still in the wild card hunt? We're 65 games in. Everyone in the AL is within 5 games of the Wild Card, minus Tampa Bay who are 10 back. The Cubs are the worst in the NL at 7 back. So yea, everyone is "in the hunt" basically.
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MourningView posted:It also required Donaldson making a pretty athletic play to tag him, but shush and just enjoy the rocket arm, you killjoy. Oh I enjoyed the hell out of the throw. I am already a Lifetime Yoenis Cespedes SuperFan™. This may be largely in part due to the Cespedes Family Barbecue article on Chris Resop, but the why of it doesn't really matter.
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leokitty posted:Seattle called up "1B Jesus Montero". 
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If you don't follow minor league baseball but want to know who that Gallo guy is that depressed Rangers fans can't shut up about, Grantland's got you: http://grantland.com/features/joey-gallo-texas-rangers-fascinating-prospect/ e: Here is a cool graph from it:  For reference, Miguel Cabrera led MLB last year with 84.9 TheIncredulousHulk fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Gillaspie's rocking a 136 wRC+ with 0 homers so far. Batted ball luck and line drives out the rear end are both good things.
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There's no gameday thread, but did Greinke leave early because he's hurt or because the NL hates fun?
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I think the safe assumption, given this season as a whole, is injury. Specifically torn UCL. We'll find out soon enough for sure, I guess.
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Greinke pitched 6 innings, I wouldn't exactly call that leaving early, regardless of his pitch count. Probably Don Mattingly felt like playing some matchups.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Greinke pitched 6 innings, I wouldn't exactly call that leaving early, regardless of his pitch count. Probably Don Mattingly felt like playing some matchups. I wasn't watching the game but considering he only allowed five baserunners in those six innings and the only runs were off a dinger, yes that is leaving early  I'll just assume it's the latter plus Mattingly being an idiot.
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Ruben Amaro was in the Phils TV booth today and they were talking about how Rollins was going to tie Mike Schmidt in hits. Ruben noted that Rollins was doing this in about 1,000 less plate appearances, and then said, on live TV, that their batting averages were about the same, which was weird, and he didn't quite understand that. Ruben Amaro doesn't know the difference between plate appearances and at bats. edit: 
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I think SVS pinch hit for Greinke in an important situation in a low scoring game to try to get any loving runs at all and promptly struck out.
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stuart scott irl posted:Ruben Amaro was in the Phils TV booth today and they were talking about how Rollins was going to tie Mike Schmidt in hits. Ruben noted that Rollins was doing this in about 1,000 less plate appearances, and then said, on live TV, that their batting averages were about the same, which was weird, and he didn't quite understand that. Ruben Amaro is a national treasure.
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