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Coven was fuckin poor quality TV. That means people will eat it up.
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That, and the fact there were no consequences for anything and nothing really happened by the end. There was nothing to hold onto or care about. Any main character who died would get brought back to life (except if Papa Legba was involved for some reason), and any character "in danger" of dying would have no impact because you knew it probably wouldn't be permanent. And at the end of the season it was just over, it never felt like it was coming to an end, and there was no build-up or release. It was like a season that contained only a middle part, with no beginning or end.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:27
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I still maintain that Coven would have been 100x better if it had ended with the house getting ransacked and all the witches burnt at the stake together by a crazy mob of normal people. I just wanted everyone to die at the end. 
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:I still maintain that Coven would have been 100x better if it had ended with the house getting ransacked and all the witches burnt at the stake together by a crazy mob of normal people. That wouldn't have made it better, it would only have made it more satisfying.
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Jun 14, 2014 19:34
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Coven was trash TV with a poo poo story, horrible acting, and terrible shots of Stevie Nicks spinning in circles. It was the highest rated of the three because AHS picked up a ton of steam from the first two seasons. People got attached to the surface value substance of Coven. They could watch it episode to episode without really missing out on anything that had to do with the storyline. Everything was gore, guts, and softcore porn. I remember last year I said I hated the campiness and someone in this thread accused me of being a homophobe. That's how bad Coven was.
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Jun 14, 2014 20:24
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Blazing Ownager posted:Who the gently caress loved Coven? A LOOOOOT of people in my facebook feed. I thought it was pretty but that was it, easily the weakest season of AHS.
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Jun 14, 2014 22:00
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haveblue posted:A shitload of people who don't post here or care about anything you mentioned, apparently. I laughed at this: quote:You’ve probably read that Ryan Murphy expressed his surprise at the franchise’s growth in this third iteration You and me both, Ryan Murphy. Doltos posted:Coven was trash TV with a poo poo story, horrible acting, and terrible shots of Stevie Nicks spinning in circles. If not for so many people here reporting friends and feeds that love the show unironically I'd assume they were all in my boat: Jumping on the show because of Asylum, giving it chance until halfway in, then riding the train wreck to the end to see if ANYTHING ever amounts to poo poo. [Spoiler: It doesn't.] Also the show honestly doesn't deserve the title of camp, anyway. Evil Dead 2 to me is camp. This was.. gently caress if I know what this was. This was "Spin the wheel of randomness to introduce plot threads or character traits, then pound enough booze & coke that we forget what we wrote yesterday" writing. QuickbreathFinisher posted:I just wanted everyone to die at the end. No kidding. I honestly hoped that vision near the end of the show with all the bodies slung around in creative ways would take place and that the series would end PRECISELY like that. It would have been the only redemption they could have. Instead they decide to loop back to the X-Men vibe they had at the start (Slightly before it went into "What the gently caress" land it really was "Xavier's school for witches") and then "open their doors to anyone who is a witch" on public TV... don't even get me started on the horrendously poo poo job they did at universe building. It takes some serious dumb as poo poo writing to put massive plot holes in your unseen universe backdrop, but by God, Coven did it. ED: I will never understand the scrawny AV guys dressed in suits with funky soundtrack music that showed up for.. things. ED2: Oh yeah. I will forever hold that the witch hunter plot started because one guy on the writing staff was a big World of Darkness fan, then two episodes later someone said "I don't like this!" and wrote them out by having them all gleefully walk into.. not even an ambush as much as "are you really stupid enough to do that?" Double bonus points for the fact that they wrote out the whole husband/baby plot so abruptly that his wife didn't even know the connection for an episode or two. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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Jun 14, 2014 22:29
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Blazing Ownager posted:Who the gently caress loved Coven? I don't talk to those people much anymore.
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Jun 14, 2014 22:41
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Doltos posted:I remember last year I said I hated the campiness and someone in this thread accused me of being a homophobe. That's how bad Coven was. That's not what happened at all, and the fact that you're still passive-aggressively whinging about it half a year later is hilariously sad.
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Jun 14, 2014 22:50
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:There were people on my Facebook feed who legitimately enjoyed the finale. When Misty got trapped in hell out of the blue, I so wanted her final words to be an echoy "Sorry for wasting your timmmmmeeeeeee." I'm all for killing characters or and doing terrible things to them, really I am. But that was such bullshit, and pointless. Force us to spend an entire season watching the cast protect this character who can't find her way out of a high school biology class. gently caress. Also gently caress that Stevie Nicks cameo. Everyone got a chuckle in the scene she was brought up but the second they dragged her on to start playing songs.. and.. gently caress this thread is making me remember things I had pushed out of my brain about this show. Some of the worst celebrity pandering I've ever seen in my life. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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Jun 14, 2014 23:00
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...of SCIENCE! posted:That's not what happened at all, and the fact that you're still passive-aggressively whinging about it half a year later is hilariously sad. That is literally exactly how it happened and even Escape Artist called the guy out on it.
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Jun 15, 2014 00:06
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Doltos posted:That is literally exactly how it happened and even Escape Artist called the guy out on it. Escape Artist is a retard and you are too
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Jun 15, 2014 01:11
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scary ghost dog posted:Coven owned, womanhaters
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Jun 15, 2014 02:28
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Zachack posted:Did you misplace the word "by" with a comma? Because Coven hated women. It hated women who wanted power, it hated women who want to have sex with men (because it means less men for Murphy), it hated women who are mothers (especially mothers of cute boys), and it hated women who try to help other women. No but you see they had magic so it was alright. And they had sex with maybe a minotaur but maybe also a ghost. That's called empowerment. I have to say though, that the advertising lead up to the show was so loving gorgeous and amazing.
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Jun 15, 2014 04:54
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Coven only "owned" if the only thing you get out of watching television is staring at movement and colors and pretty images, and you like chuckling when someone says a thing that references something you know ("Oh my god Stevie Nicks! I've heard of her!"). It had isolated moments that I liked. I liked any moment that Kathy Bates was onscreen, and Frances Conroy and Lily Rabe. That's about it.
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Jun 15, 2014 04:54
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scary ghost dog posted:Escape Artist is a retard and you are too 
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Jun 15, 2014 05:16
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The intro owned. The actual episodes sucked hot farts
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Jun 15, 2014 05:54
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Look awayyyyy look awaaaaaay look awaaaaaaaaay Dixie Land. Only time I laughed, and I laughed uproariously.   Bates had perfect line delivery with that.
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Jun 15, 2014 11:11
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King Vidiot posted:I liked any moment that Kathy Bates was onscreen I felt so bad for her by the end of the series. Not her character, Kathy Bates. She gave it her all and they aborted her arc out of the blue and ruined everything interesting about the character. But drat if she didn't act as hard as she could all the while. scary ghost dog posted:Escape Artist is a retard and you are too Now I kind of want someone to dig this up just to end it here rather than drag this stupid argument on. zVxTeflon posted:The intro owned. There's a reason for that. Fun bit of trivia: A lot of really good intros on TV and film were made by a single guy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Cooper He runs a company that does NOTHING but churn out slick title sequences for movies and TV. For example, he's done all The Walking Dead intros, too. I think one of his first projects was all the creepy credit imagery in Se7en. For whatever it's worth, I'm sure Freak Show will have an awesome intro. This guy rarely disappoints, which is largely why he's successful in such a ridiculously niche business. He also seems to have had a far better idea of what "Horror, witches, and New Orleans" should resemble than the actual show runners. ED: And games. Didn't realize he also did games. TV has to be the best contracts for him, because he gets to do new stuff every year for each show he's got signed on, though from the looks, he's done nearly every modern MGS game. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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Jun 15, 2014 11:23
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I'd say Season 2 was my favorite, but I enjoyed Coven. Ok, I enjoyed looking at Emma Roberts and how campy the entire season was. Do we know what S4 will be themed around yet?
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Jun 16, 2014 02:18
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Is Taissa Farmiga not going to be in Freak Show? Boo! (Emma Roberts will, though. Great.)
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Jun 16, 2014 06:24
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I'd say Season 2 was my favorite, but I enjoyed Coven. Ok, I enjoyed looking at Emma Roberts and how campy the entire season was. People have been talking about this for the last half of the thread, but yeah - about a traveling freak show. Absolutely tons of potential if they don't have another brain crash.
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Jun 16, 2014 10:24
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Doltos posted:I remember last year I said I hated the campiness and someone in this thread accused me of being a homophobe. That's how bad Coven was. Coven was bad, but this is not how things went down. You were being homophobic, and were appropriately called out on it, and it had nothing to do with you calling the show campy. But I guess since you have friends who live in Soho, it's A-OKAY!
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Doltos posted:I remember last year I said I hated the campiness and someone in this thread accused me of being a homophobe. That's how bad Coven was. You straight blamed the drop in quality of the last season on those drat gay "drama queens"
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Nihonniboku posted:Coven was bad, but this is not how things went down. You were being homophobic, and were appropriately called out on it, and it had nothing to do with you calling the show campy. But I guess since you have friends who live in Soho, it's A-OKAY! hangedman1984 posted:You straight blamed the drop in quality of the last season on those drat gay "drama queens" That's not at all how it went down and this is a ridiculous recap on what happened. People kept asking how this show as more popular in season 3 and I said it was because they were catering to a bunch of new demographics, one of which included gay people. People latched on to me mentioning gay people and whined about it like typical SJWs, ignoring that I said a bunch of demographics were being targeted and that there was nothing wrong with it. But please, continue thinking of alternate realities. Edit: Just to put this to rest here is the instance where the dude called me out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563835&pagenumber=62&perpage=40#post424524448 Nothing homophobic there. And here's my posting history in this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563835&userid=89848 Nothing homophobic there either. Seriously gently caress off you two, randomly accusing people of homophobia is loving annoying and rude. Doltos fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 17:04
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Can we not do this again thanks
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haveblue posted:Can we not do this again thanks I'd rather not but it's loving annoying when people casually throw around accusations of homophobia.
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Doltos posted:That's not at all how it went down and this is a ridiculous recap on what happened. People kept asking how this show as more popular in season 3 and I said it was because they were catering to a bunch of new demographics, one of which included gay people. People latched on to me mentioning gay people and whined about it like typical SJWs, ignoring that I said a bunch of demographics were being targeted and that there was nothing wrong with it. Oh yeah, I remember that whole thing. To be fair, whatever you were trying to say sounded and still sounds really awful. Criticizing a work directly will always carry more weight than simply blaming a drop in quality on catering to gay people.
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Last Chance posted:Oh yeah, I remember that whole thing. To be fair, whatever you were trying to say sounded and still sounds really awful. Criticizing a work directly will always carry more weight than simply blaming a drop in quality on catering to gay people. Yeah I was responding to someone who asked who was boosting this shows ratings in S3, and I mentioned more than just gay people as the target demographic for S3. The different styles between Asylum and Coven should have made it obvious that yes, Ryan Murphy wished to bring in more viewers from different demographics. It shouldn't be a negative thing that Ryan Murphy wanted to cater to more people by changing up how the show was shot, just that what Murphy produced was trash. I spent a ton of posts criticizing the work directly in all manner of reasons, that was just a post responding to a specific question that people jumped all over. Doltos fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Nihonniboku posted:Coven was amazing if you view it as a series of awesome vignettes instead of a cohesive story or season. Drifter posted:The ideas were present and interesting, but the execution suffered immensely. These two posts basically sum up my thoughts on Coven. There were a ton of hugely interesting and genuinely amusing and intriguing scenes, and even a few whole episodes (mainly the early ones). But they completely fell apart by the supposed overarching plot - which, again, had the framework of something that could have been compelling, but completely fell apart on even having an internal continuity.
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Chairman Capone posted:These two posts basically sum up my thoughts on Coven. There were a ton of hugely interesting and genuinely amusing and intriguing scenes, and even a few whole episodes (mainly the early ones). But they completely fell apart by the supposed overarching plot - which, again, had the framework of something that could have been compelling, but completely fell apart on even having an internal continuity. The most poorly calculated move: "WHO IS THE NEXT SUPREME??" as the big mystery when literally nobody I know nor on this forum gave the slightest of shits. I can't imagine the reaction was much different elsewhere but again.. the ratings went up for some reason, so maybe I'm horribly underestimating the sales potential of that really dumb plot. I hope they stay the gently caress away from the non-horror X-MenPotter rip-offs and stick to horror stuff next season, I really really do.
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Blazing Ownager posted:The most poorly calculated move: "WHO IS THE NEXT SUPREME??" as the big mystery when literally nobody I know nor on this forum gave the slightest of shits. I enjoyed Coven but only because it felt like more Harry Potter world stuff and I'm kind of okay with that. That being said, it still wasn't that great. I literally never cared who was the next Supreme. It was pretty clear the whole time it would have to be Sarah Paulson. I only slightly wavered between her and Taissa getting the title like once or twice. I really wish they had either done more with Ax Man or left him out altogether. All I ask is for everyone to die at the end of a season, is that so much?!
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Blazing Ownager posted:The most poorly calculated move: "WHO IS THE NEXT SUPREME??" as the big mystery when literally nobody I know nor on this forum gave the slightest of shits. What got me was I didn't even know what the powers of a Supreme were until the last episode of the season where they just ran through them all in an old timey cut scene.
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Doltos posted:What got me was I didn't even know what the powers of a Supreme were until the last episode of the season where they just ran through them all in an old timey cut scene. This. I mean, the girls practically all had the same powers anyway, the Supreme was just supposed to have all of them in heightened ability. It wasn't really a big plot point during the season, not as much as you'd might think anyway. It was really almost an afterthought when they introduced the witch war and then the witch hunters (both of which fizzled out just as quick.)
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Wes Bentley (Seneca Crane from the first Hunger Games movie) has been announced as the villain of this year's Halloween two-parter.
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Chris James 2 posted:This season's gonna rule I remember saying that last year based on the teasers. And look how THAT whole thing turned out. That's a drat cool teaser, though. Drifter fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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