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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Nah, just kidding.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/11/hiv-specialists-virus-girl-antiviral-drug?CMP=fb_gu

quote:


The brave hopes of HIV scientists that they were on the path towards a cure for Aids have received a considerable blow with the news from the US that, after appearing to have been totally cleared from the body of one small girl, the virus has been detected again.

The Mississippi baby was the poster child of the "hunt for a cure", which is the mantra scientists and campaigners have adopted since more widely available drugs stemmed the rise in the Aids pandemic and reduced the sense of emergency. We have never known her name, but the child treated in the Jackson Memorial Hospital in Mississippi appeared to be living proof that it was possible to outwit the virus. Studies have been planned to test the treatment she received in other babies. Now there will have to be a rethink. Throughout the HIV community, there will be real dismay.

Pregnant women with HIV are put on antiretroviral drugs to suppress the virus in their blood, for their own health and to protect their baby. In North America and Europe, the vast majority of babies with HIV-positive mothers are born free of the virus as a result. The Mississippi baby's mother, however, had never attended an antenatal clinic. Dr Hannah Gay, a paediatric HIV consultant at the hospital, took the decision to put the baby on a particularly strong course of antiretroviral drugs within 30 hours of the birth, before she even had any HIV test results. This was an unusual procedure, but sure enough, when the test results came back, they confirmed HIV in the baby.

The child continued to be given antiretroviral drugs for 18 months, when doctors lost contact with her. Ten months later, mother and daughter reappeared. When tests were done, there was no sign of the virus anywhere in the girl's body. A buzz of amazement and excitement went around the world. But now, at nearly four years old, the regular tests to which the child has been subjected have shown traces of the virus once again. She is no longer in remission and has been put back on treatment.

HIV has proved a formidable opponent for scientists trying to develop vaccines as well as drugs because of its ability to hide in the body. Drugs can suppress the virus until it is almost undetectable, but once they are stopped, the virus rebounds.

The events in Mississippi may still teach scientists a great deal. It does appear that treatment hit the virus harder in this child's case than anyone has managed to do before. Other doctors have been keen to try the approach. In March it was revealed that a second baby, in Los Angeles, had been treated with a similar strong cocktail of drugs within just four hours of her birth. Tests could not find the virus afterwards, but that baby is still on treatment and now likely to remain so.

There have been plans in the US to carry out a federally funded study of early aggressive treatment in newborn babies with HIV. If there was no sign of HIV after two years, doctors would stop the drugs. Whether such a study can now be ethically done will be in question.

"We're going to take a good hard look at the study and see if it needs any modifications," said Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. At a minimum, consent forms to join the study would have to be revised, he said. He added that scientists remained committed to finding a cure for HIV.

Jeffrey Safrit, research chief at the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation, was one of those to offer an upbeat view. "What we've learned from this case is really quite amazing," he said. "They were able to suppress the virus for a very long time without therapy. We need to take the positive aspects of this case and learn from them to move forward [with the federal study]".

Hopes have been raised before. Like the Mississippi baby, the "Berlin patient" appeared to offer a blueprint for a cure when his story emerged in 2008. The patient was an American, Timothy Ray Brown, who received a bone marrow stem cell transplant in Germany to treat his cancer, acute myeloid leukaemia. His doctors managed to get the donation from a man who is one of the small minority who have natural immunity to HIV. Brown's HIV has not recurred. Stem cell transplants from donors have since been given to other people with HIV, but the virus has always made a comeback.

At the International Aids Conference, which opens in Melbourne at the end of next week, the promise of babies freed from HIV was expected to be one of the biggest and most hopeful themes. Now there will be a lot of stoical talk from HIV specialists about what can be learned from the setback. They have been here before and will be here again before HIV is, hopefully, finally conquered.

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SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


drat thats devastating for real

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

quote:

Dr Hannah Gay
heh

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
have they ruled out sexual abuse

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

everything is awful and bad forever actually

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

NecroMonster posted:

everything is awful and bad forever actually

hosed up if true

Trip Larsen
Oct 4, 2006

My great-grandfather started Larsen Pork Products with little more than three pigs and a killing hammer. Today, I'm proud to say, we kill more pigs than pig hepatitis.
science should just stop this whole benevolent approach and just focus on making resident evil viruses imo

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

You can't beat God's justice so why even try?

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Clicked on link expecting a herald of queer and monkey genocide.

loving useless OP.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Oil Can Boyd posted:

drat thats devastating for real

Who Is Paul Blart
Oct 22, 2010
So I can still poz people. Good

www
Aug 4, 2010

when will science cure homosexuality?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
my wife

onedayholiday
Dec 6, 2013

Grimey Drawer
loving scientists trying neg my poz hole

SirEvelynTremble
Dec 25, 2013

FUCK YOU HITLER
STALINGRAD
ROFLMFAO

Kilmers Elbow posted:

You can't beat God's justice so why even try?

HIV is God's retribution for the evil gays.
Obviously the little girl was gay, got HIV from God, then the little dyke turned straight for a few years, God took away HIV but gave it back to her when she "regayed herself"

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Dolphin posted:

have they ruled out sexual abuse

this was my thought, i mean her mom got the aids from being a crackwhore right? it is mississippi, what else do people do for money down there?

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

pathetic little tramp posted:

this was my thought, i mean her mom got the aids from being a crackwhore right? it is mississippi, what else do people do for money down there?

scrap

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
Magic Johnson still doesn't have AIDS, right? HIV isn't so bad I guess if you're really rich.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
HIV isn't really so bad for anyone as long as you have insurance

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
HIV is actually good!! :wth:

come my fellow socialmedia justice warriors, lets all go get aids so we can understand and sympathize with the plight of a wandering Zimbabwean nomad

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
is nice

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
turns out the baby was sharing needles and HIV actually is totally cured

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

that is a picture of a mans anus and nothing to do with the hiv baby :mad:

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Daedra posted:

that is a picture of a mans anus and nothing to do with the hiv baby :mad:

actually it does. the baby could have conceivebly come out of there and may have contracted the aids inside so you need to know patient zero and the origins to create an antibody

fuccboi
Jan 5, 2004

by zen death robot
couldnt they just round up everyone who is hiv positive into a death camp and kill them all and then no one would have it, hiv cured. sounds sick but more people will die of it over time, so we are actually doing a humane thing. like this if you agree.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Slipknot Hoagie posted:

couldnt they just round up everyone who is hiv positive into a death camp and kill them all and then no one would have it, hiv cured. sounds sick but more people will die of it over time, so we are actually doing a humane thing. like this if you agree.

agreed but you gotta round up all the apes and poo poo too.

but who would want to kill sexy men like this

Xaris fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jul 11, 2014

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Xaris posted:

agreed but you gotta round up all the apes and poo poo too.

who is loving these apes

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

BottledBodhisvata posted:

who is loving these apes
morally inept's black cousin

i think one of the theories was that when they go hunt and eat them, they're like hacking them up with machettes and blood is flying everywhere and poo poo and then they have a big gay orgy together covered in monkeyaidsblood

or something like that

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

BottledBodhisvata posted:

who is loving these apes

me :(

i am the ape fucker

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Xaris posted:

morally inept's black cousin

i think one of the theories was that when they go hunt and eat them, they're like hacking them up with machettes and blood is flying everywhere and poo poo and then they have a big gay orgy together covered in monkeyaidsblood

or something like that

The first guy to be found with AIDs was a white big game hunter or some poo poo like that so you're probably right

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





bet she was excited to bang it out raw dog when she grew up and now she cant what a poo poo deal

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

lol at poor people and their diseases, just get a job

Mud Shark
May 12, 2012
i think this is the most appropriate song to ponder while reading this news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bORW3JsgDkE

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH
seth putnam died of a heart attack what a hiv fag

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

NecroMonster posted:

everything is awful and bad forever actually

fact

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008


Already cured.

Mud Shark
May 12, 2012

Daedra posted:

seth putnam died of a heart attack what a hiv fag

i always saw chuck schuldiner as metal's face of aids but thats good too

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

BottledBodhisvata posted:

who is loving these apes

BottledBodhisvata posted:

The first guy to be found with AIDs was a white big game hunter or some poo poo like that so you're probably right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-lEzYZMo1k&t=23s

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

Sorry about your Fails AIDS op.

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Hate to break it for you, but scientist think that AIDS was transfers from a person who was butchering a monkey.

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