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mr.capps posted:It seems to imply you think everyone is going to just follow you on this lynch like a bunch of mindless mooks.
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Fast Luck posted:which is kinda funny because he didn't even say anything except "vote capps," like that's gonna be enough for everyone to do it? Although i still don't really know why everyone voted Sandwolf either so who knows. And yet that vote for capps is sitting out there, and there hasn't been a scum rush to hammer. Which means either capps is scum, windy is scum, or it's not LYLO. And given how windy claimed, and claimed so specifically, I don't think he's scum.
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Jul 24, 2014 19:48
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Well it's only been there for a couple hours. If Dhaes or maltose were scum they probably wouldn't have seen it yet. Btw i definitely wouldn't say the specificity of windy's claim adds anything to its likelihood of being true. i mean, if someone were going to make a fake claim why would they NOT pick out their ship name ahead of time? and if we're going down that route again we can start asking why his tracker would have to be a "surveillance ship" which isn't in battleship. afterall, our doctor was a battleship, not a hospital ship. The only thing that makes his claim look true to me is how he was willing to throw down that bet with me, that would be a mighty big bluff considering he would KNOW he's lying (whereas i can't really know if he's lying or not), maybe he was just expecting me to back down based on that unequal knowability aspect but that was still a bet he wouldnt want to lose. It did get the heat off rarity though.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:06
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I saw the vote, but since I'm not scum I'm not jumping on it. QED. What ships from Battleship are even left? As dumb as the flavor argument is, aren't we out of boats?
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Jul 24, 2014 20:21
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Mr. Maltose posted:I saw the vote, but since I'm not scum I'm not jumping on it. QED. Cruiser? Maybe? Don't know or care, because: Asiina posted:Don't think too hard about the flavour, it's meant to be silly.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:24
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Yeah but god forbid Fast Luck get off that horse.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:25
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Rarity's my top scum pick still, windy's town. I think Fast Luck's newbie town. I'd vote capps over Dhaes or Maltose.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:28
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Mr. Maltose posted:Yeah but god forbid Fast Luck get off that horse.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:46
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Byers2142 posted:And yet that vote for capps is sitting out there, and there hasn't been a scum rush to hammer. Which means either capps is scum, windy is scum, or it's not LYLO. And given how windy claimed, and claimed so specifically, I don't think he's scum. if it's LYLO, does that mean the scum only needs ONE outside vote to get enough votes for a lynch? since i never played before i hadn't thought about that. 7 alive, 4 votes to lynch, 3 scum, yeah. of course, that's only true if windy himself is town.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:06
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well byers lays out all the possibilities there in his post. it didn't click for me at first since i didn't know how this works yet, but what was capps posting about, then?
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Jul 24, 2014 21:19
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Fast Luck posted:ohh wait - so - i think i finally put together what this means and what windy's post about losing us the game means. That's what it means. If windy and capps were both town, three scum could swoop in right now, vote, and win. It's obvious when they do that, but it wouldn't matter because the game's over. But the longer the vote sits out there, the longer it's clear that either windy's scum, capps's scum, or there's not three scum left. I think it's LYLO based on set-up spec, and between his claim and his play I think that windy's town, so I'm voting capps in that situation, just want to hear from everyone else before I vote. I'm not sure what capps's point was, he seems to be saying that windy's trying to avoid the blame of a mislynch, but if it's LYLO it doesn't matter where the blame of a mislynch lies because the game's over at that point.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:41
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Even if we pick right between Winds and Capps, there's still two more scum out there (assuming we are currently in LYLO territory). We all know our own alignment, so, I know i'm town for instance, and that apparently one of Winds/Capps is town also. that means there's two more scum out of Maltose/Byers/Dhaes/Rarity. who could they be? if rarity is scum, then windshipper has been wrong about her (unless he is scum as well). And, plus there's still probably a vig as well?
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Jul 24, 2014 21:55
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I'm on my phone but yeah I see it. It was a dumb move from wind but it looks like it worked. Saw it from my phone earlier today. I can read from here but I hate posting from it so I don't phone post unless necessary.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:56
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That vote on Capps seems to me like wind was taking a gamble. I don't think there's a vig out there. You'd have to be stupid to not use it before LYLO.
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Jul 24, 2014 22:26
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My point is that a vote is a vote. It means poo poo other than the fact its a vote.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:03
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mr.capps posted:My point is that a vote is a vote. It means poo poo other than the fact its a vote. ##vote capps Well now it's two votes.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:32
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What point are you trying to prove with that?
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Jul 24, 2014 23:35
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Well now if capps is town, unless winds and byers are BOTH scum, we lost.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:39
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mr.capps posted:What point are you trying to prove with that? You can do the math, but you don't want to admit the truth. You're trying to dismiss the simple fact that everyone's posted today and that the vote and subsequent lack of a scum rush means either windy's scum, you're scum, or it's not LYLO. I don't think windy's scum and I think it's likely LYLO, therefore you're scum.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:42
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Fast Luck posted:Well now if capps is town, unless winds and byers are BOTH scum, we lost. Jesus christ you people look into votes too closely, even during lylo votes switch back and forth a lot
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Jul 24, 2014 23:43
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Byers2142 posted:You can do the math, but you don't want to admit the truth. You're trying to dismiss the simple fact that everyone's posted today and that the vote and subsequent lack of a scum rush means either windy's scum, you're scum, or it's not LYLO. I don't think windy's scum and I think it's likely LYLO, therefore you're scum. that is the stupidest loving poo poo i have ever heard
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Jul 24, 2014 23:43
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Yeah if it comes down to windshipper vs. capps then I pick wind for town. ##vote Capps
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Jul 24, 2014 23:46
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oh my god this was retarded ##vote capps
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Jul 24, 2014 23:46
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noo
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Jul 24, 2014 23:47
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lol
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Jul 24, 2014 23:47
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Welp.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:50
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I'm beginning to think I'm exceptionally bad at Mafia.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:50
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Jul 25, 2014 00:41
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 Windshipper, USNS Invincible (Surveillance Ship), Town-aligned Tracker, was topedoed N6  Oh god it's now D7.
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Jul 25, 2014 03:06
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Votecount for Day 7 Not Voting (5): Byers2142, Dhaes, Fast Luck, Mr. Maltose, RarityWith 5 alive, it's 3 votes to lynch. The current deadline is July 27th, 2014 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 23 hours.
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Jul 25, 2014 03:07
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Asiina posted:Windshipper, USNS Invincible (Surveillance Ship), Town-aligned Tracker, was topedoed N6  good thing I walked back that bet!Yeah seems like by calling capps like that windy basically doomed himself to be next to go?
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Jul 25, 2014 04:04
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pretty much, they would be idiots to kill anyone else during lylo i'm down for a rarity lynch scum bud is maltose i guess??
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Jul 25, 2014 04:10
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i mean, fast luck is sure as poo poo town, pretty sure on byers soo
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Jul 25, 2014 04:11
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Those are actually the same two I suspect but I don't wanna place a vote just yet tell me, is there any chance Byers would bus capps at this point? I mean, after winds put the first vote down, and no scum hammer descended, would scum ever put the second vote on their scum bro? OR does that vote make it highly, highly unlikely to be Byers, as that was basically the vote that ended it?
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Jul 25, 2014 04:13
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ehh... its possible, i doubt it though. ignoring yesterday, byers has played a pretty town game, i don't really see any malicious intent there. plus there was his initial case on wolery. just not seeing it. after windy's stunt the writing was on the wall for whoever capps' scum buds were so there really would only be one course of action, bussing. i'm guessing rarity bussed for that very reason. maltose was obv watching the thread if you look at the time stamps for how quickly he posted after capps' self-hammer. he was probably lurking and since the guy is a newbie he was probably unsure of how to handle windy's gambit, so with holding from posting. hmm. i want to hear what all three of them have to say on it, though i think my mind is already made up.
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Jul 25, 2014 04:23
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im with you in that ive read byers as town all game long and rarity not-so-much. for example she "interrogated" capps briefly during the sandwolf vote and then after like 2 questions just said "ok ive heard enough." as for maltose, he seems mostly town to me but the time he asked me for my ship name i thought might be a scum-slip... as they have the list of vanilla ship names then there's you, dhaes. but when there was the one vote on capps, if you were scum and knew he was scum, i don't expect you'd have made your presence known by going out of the way to phone post that you'd read the thing. but evne before that i thought your frustration with winds was real, and your case on KB (although wrong) was honestly felt, etc. so basically yeah i think you're town just like i think byers is town, which is what leaves rarity and maltose...
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Jul 25, 2014 04:30
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 IT WAS NOT ALL IN VAIN!
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Jul 25, 2014 04:32
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I didn't hop in on capps because my gut has been so wrong this game I was afraid I had completely misread Windshipper too. Hence the Bad at Mafia bit I posted. I think capps got frustrated because he didn't agree with either Byers or Rarity or both bussing him that early in the day, hence the self vote.
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Jul 25, 2014 04:33
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Mr. Maltose posted:I didn't hop in on capps because my gut has been so wrong this game I was afraid I had completely misread Windshipper too. Hence the Bad at Mafia bit I posted. I think capps got frustrated because he didn't agree with either Byers or Rarity or both bussing him that early in the day, hence the self vote. I agree with this analysis and I know it's not me. Furthermore, based on our continued survival I believe that scum's plan is to get FL to vote for me and then jump on his vote. Byers is the one who has been pushing me the hardest these last few days, he's my main suspect. Fast Luck posted:im with you in that ive read byers as town all game long and rarity not-so-much. for example she "interrogated" capps briefly during the sandwolf vote and then after like 2 questions just said "ok ive heard enough." Because he'd told me all that I wanted to know, which was his opinion on wind's claim (his response was such bullshit) and his opinion on Sandwolf (to get a connection had Sand flipped scum).
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Fast Luck, before you vote for me go back and read Byers's first case and my response. Actually read the posts that Byers is talking about. Then tell me if you think that case has any merit.
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