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I paid $20 or whatever it was in euro conversion for Linkinus, so $5 for Textual is a steal in comparison.
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People gettin' mad about spending $5 for a program they'll use for 30000 hours.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:17
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Whirlwind Jones posted:People gettin' mad about spending $5 for a program they'll use for 30000 hours. I remember balking at $70 for SublimeText until I realize I use it for about 40 hours a week
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Jul 24, 2014 17:31
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Whirlwind Jones posted:People gettin' mad about spending $5 for a program they'll use for 30000 hours. I don't use IRC much so that's why I was only interested in it when it was free. 
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Jul 24, 2014 17:32
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Public beta is up, apparently. Folks are reporting that codes for MAS redemption seem to be going out slowly, but if you log into the beta site you can find it there immediately.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:33
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I downloaded it for free and I'll never use it. Bye.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:34
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Public beta is up, apparently. Folks are reporting that codes for MAS redemption seem to be going out slowly, but if you log into the beta site you can find it there immediately. Yeah, I'm getting connection issues as well (it resets every so often) but I'm about halfway downloaded now.
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Jul 24, 2014 18:04
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I am getting the WE ARE BUSY UPDATING THE SITE :[
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Jul 24, 2014 19:10
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Same here, and Apple Insider says the beta from the App Store is exactly one digit higher than Developer Release 4.
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Jul 24, 2014 19:24
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The Milkman posted:I remember balking at $70 for SublimeText until I realize I use it for about 40 hours a week I thought the same thing and bought it for myself, then my boss saw me using it at work and got the company to comp me for it 
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Jul 24, 2014 19:25
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AlternateAccount posted:I am getting the WE ARE BUSY UPDATING THE SITE :[ The beta site posted:Proxy Error Their servers must be getting destroyed by all the traffic.
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Jul 24, 2014 19:37
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Got my beta code but I'm scared of updating because I fear it will "blow up" my work rMBP. How complete is a Time Machine backup? I'm doing software development on my Mac so I got a bunch of files that are outside of OSX's /Users/ directory (for example, 3rd party brew libraries in usr/local/Cellar). Does Time Machine capture ALL of that stuff?
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Jul 24, 2014 19:41
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shodanjr_gr posted:Got my beta code but I'm scared of updating because I fear it will "blow up" my work rMBP. yeah unless you specifically tell it to exclude a directory. it's not a bit-level image as far as i know, but it copies over all the files. can't tell you whether permissions and various metadata is perfectly preserved. I wouldn't run beta OS X on an important machine though
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Jul 24, 2014 20:03
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Time Machine preserves metadata.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:13
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Looks like the method to make USB installation media that Apple introduced with Mavericks (but hasn't worked with Yosemite thus far -- you need to follow a more lengthy procedure) is now working with Yosemite Public Beta 1. Format a USB drive as Untitled, download the installer from the MAS, and run this command in Terminal:code:
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Jul 24, 2014 23:15
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AlternateAccount posted:I am getting the WE ARE BUSY UPDATING THE SITE :[ Pound refresh on your browser and you can get through. Then you have the joy of watching your 5 gig download from the app store fail for the same reason. I just got my email informing me about the beta, seems reasonable to try and do the download again. ETA about a half hour. edit: nope, download still fails spunkshui fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 23:18
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Looks like the method to make USB installation media that Apple introduced with Mavericks (but hasn't worked with Yosemite thus far -- you need to follow a more lengthy procedure) is now working with Yosemite Public Beta 1. Format a USB drive as Untitled, download the installer from the MAS, and run this command in Terminal: That drove me nuts on DP1. Please report your findings. 
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Jul 24, 2014 23:43
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I know I'm considered weird by most for using Firefox on OSX, but chatzilla's a perfectly fine free IRC program for Macs if you need one.
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Jul 25, 2014 00:13
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Started using Textual today and it really feels like the son of Linkinus. I should have moved to it long ago. Thanks for the rec, thread.
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Jul 25, 2014 00:54
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I just bit the bullet and upgraded since I have 10.8 on my spinning disk for fallback and nothing really important is kept on my laptop for the most part. I like the graphite option and dark menu/dock. Just wish I could turn the color back on for only the window buttons (Would be cool if there was a hidden preference or something to do that but maybe they are tied too closely together) 
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Jul 25, 2014 01:03
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drat these colors\icons in the beta... seem like it's high contrast or something.. really annoying to look at.
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Jul 25, 2014 01:47
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the new Finder is downright 
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Jul 25, 2014 03:18
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My install has stalled at 7 minutes remaining, approximately 60% through. It has occasionally flickered to 6 minutes but then goes back up. It's been this way for awhile now.  Good thing I did a full backup, I guess.
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Jul 25, 2014 03:25
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don't use beta OS X unless you're a dev and need to, they're always hosed in subtle ways i don't understand the excitement about it at all. i *am* a dev (not OS X desktop apps tho) and i wouldn't put that poo poo on any of my machines. ios betas i can understand because your phone probably isn't *mission critical* and at least Phone.app will work after you restart, but using an OS X beta on your primary machine (often ONLY machine) when you don't need to? i don't get it. if the machine is important enough for you to complain when it breaks, you shouldn't be running betas on it. Pivo fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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Jul 25, 2014 04:03
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Missing the exit fullscreen on the corner of menu bar already  . I can deal with the green button defaulted as fullscreen button but it looks/feels silly to use it to exit fullscreen.
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Jul 25, 2014 04:30
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Looks like the method to make USB installation media that Apple introduced with Mavericks (but hasn't worked with Yosemite thus far -- you need to follow a more lengthy procedure) is now working with Yosemite Public Beta 1. Format a USB drive as Untitled, download the installer from the MAS, and run this command in Terminal:
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Jul 25, 2014 07:54
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Pivo posted:don't use beta OS X unless you're a dev and need to, they're always hosed in subtle ways Yeah, I have a spare machine I'm running it on. I wouldn't put any kind of OS beta (Mac or otherwise) on any system I really needed for anything. I already submitted two (minor) bug reports. 
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Jul 25, 2014 07:55
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Anyway to get rid of the Java error? I'd prefer to not install the update. 'You are running Mac OS X 10.10, which is currently an unsupported platform for Java 7.'
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Has anyone tried running the beta in a (Fusion6) VM? I wouldn't mind playing around with it so I can start updating my mackup configs and Boxen manifests for Yosemite but Fusion can be kinda bitchy about new OSX versions. If it's impossible or a huge pain in the rear end I'll just wait.
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This may be a dumb and/or unanswerable question, but are we likely to see developers start to release updates to software (MAS and otherwise) specifically addressing the Public Beta? I haven't installed yet and I'm mostly waiting to hear how certain software (mainly Scrivener, Little Snitch, and tweaks like TotalFinder; but I don't really have anything mission critical and I have Time Machine and Crashplan backups of my 10.9 install) maintains reliability in 10.10. On the one hand sticking to internal testing until the GM might be considered the best choice considering potential app-breaking changes between beta updates and general brokenness, but then again knowing there are a million people out there who want compatible software for their new toy operating system could be considered an opportunity to snag new customers.
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Arrowsmith posted:This may be a dumb and/or unanswerable question, but are we likely to see developers start to release updates to software (MAS and otherwise) specifically addressing the Public Beta? I haven't installed yet and I'm mostly waiting to hear how certain software (mainly Scrivener, Little Snitch, and tweaks like TotalFinder; but I don't really have anything mission critical and I have Time Machine and Crashplan backups of my 10.9 install) maintains reliability in 10.10. On the one hand sticking to internal testing until the GM might be considered the best choice considering potential app-breaking changes between beta updates and general brokenness, but then again knowing there are a million people out there who want compatible software for their new toy operating system could be considered an opportunity to snag new customers. Yes, most of my software worked without any problems, but I did need to update to dev release iTunes, Little Snitch, and HyperDock. Most developers have a release track to support 10.10 by now.
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Pivo posted:don't use beta OS X unless you're a dev and need to, they're always hosed in subtle ways While the rest of what you say is valid, it's silly telling people to not run _public_ beta software. Apple wants people to test it, and takes enough precautions to let people know that poo poo will break. Speaking of. One thing they didn't say will break is your bootloader if you intend to install this on an external drive, like I did. I was unable to boot back into my regular OSX install and just restored everything to normal using Time Machine. For anybody who wants to load 10.10 public beta onto an external drive: create a bootable USB for the installer, then install it onto the external drive. Do not install it onto an external drive from the desktop installer.
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I cannot get this thing to download. What are the chances if I buy a 4gig movie from iTunes, Akamai will serve that thing up in under a minute? Sudden bandwidth... Very annoying. 
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So far the only problem has been Skitch (it crashes when opening a window), everything else works fine in Yosemite. The dark menu is unusable though, until everyone updates their icons to have a white version.
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Jul 25, 2014 17:44
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Installed it last night without any issues - saw the login screen and closed the lid. I can't wait to get home and play with it.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:07
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Is it just me or are some of the new dock icons obnoxiously 'bright'?
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Jul 25, 2014 18:37
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Pivo posted:don't use beta OS X unless you're a dev and need to, they're always hosed in subtle ways It's apple's fault. They put on a huge show about how much you will want it, then they said you can get it early during the same presentation. Then they made that process entirely too easy. People are used to companies having an "open beta" for video games that is really almost ready for release. Maybe a typo here or there but mostly everything is fine, more of a stunt then anything for publicity.
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I really don't know why Apple released a public beta, to be honest. At least I don't work in IT support and don't have to deal with dummies screwing their own machine.
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Pivo posted:I really don't know why Apple released a public beta, to be honest. At least I don't work in IT support and don't have to deal with dummies screwing their own machine.
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Pivo posted:I really don't know why Apple released a public beta, to be honest. At least I don't work in IT support and don't have to deal with dummies screwing their own machine. Also support is going to help you all of none if you have beta installed on your machine. They'll require you downgrade first.
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