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Yeah, Arthas's transition from `great noble' to `evil leader' really shows the depth of the story. It shows how great of writers Blizzard has. My most favorite moment is Arthas when he's going to get Frostmourne. He's just so hellbent on getting this item which will save his people and help him fight the scourge, but he doesn't realize he is the scourge yet. And don't even get me started on Rexxar.
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here's a video explaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ__nRnO2mE
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Jul 29, 2014 12:07
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"Somebody gets corrupted and is evil now until you hit them enough times" is the only plot element a true masterpiece requires. That and Chris Metzen's voice.
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Jul 29, 2014 14:46
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I like the part where you race with the undead guy to see who can kill the most peasants the fastest
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Jul 29, 2014 15:10
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so which dude is gonna get corrupted in this expansion pack?
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Jul 29, 2014 15:16
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I kind of have a soft spot for it, OP, but there's probably better lore.
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Jul 29, 2014 15:17
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never let lead devs write videogame stories cause they always screw up and everybody is too afraid to tell him his story is absolute dogshit even the best writers have editors for a reason
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Jul 29, 2014 15:20
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Ekster posted:never let lead devs write videogame stories cause they always screw up and everybody is too afraid to tell him his story is absolute dogshit Yeah that's what I'm wondering: why don't any video game companies have editors? I have never seen a guy credited as an editor on the writing team ever.
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Jul 29, 2014 15:23
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Ekster posted:never let lead devs write videogame stories cause they always screw up and everybody is too afraid to tell him his story is absolute dogshit next your gonna tell me that George Lucas needs an editor.
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Jul 29, 2014 15:35
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SunAndSpring posted:so which dude is gonna get corrupted in this expansion pack? after putting the player and their npc allies in an unwinnable fight with garrosh, thrall swoops in and saves the day by instantly killing him that's kind of like corruption because it's corrupting anythiing resembling competent storytelling that actually happens btw oh and the dragon who set the whole expansion up just kind of dies offscreen so far with no explanation besides "you find his corpse while doing something else" sword_man.gif fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Jul 29, 2014 15:37
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 : "Yeah we'd, we'd gone a long time without seeing Thrall, now going by Go'el, but now he's back in action. He's got Doomhammer's plate-his plate armor back and he's even more just, imposing, and visually epic, and savage, which is central to Warlords of Draenor, the just savagery of the entire continent of Draenor. Players encounting Go'el should be ready for a truly epic and savage experience in their questing."
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sword_man.gif posted:
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welp looks like jim raynor is his self-insert
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sword_man.gif posted:after putting the player and their npc allies in an unwinnable fight with garrosh, thrall swoops in and saves the day by instantly killing him god loving damnit I expect nothing and I still am disappointed every time.
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SunAndSpring posted:god loving damnit I expect nothing and I still am disappointed every time. they're so proud of it that you can right click gorehowl and view the loving cutscene again, because drat if thrall isn't loving epic and savage and poo poo 
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Jul 29, 2014 15:49
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warlords of draenor: every single quest is rousing lazy peons
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Ekster posted:welp looks like jim raynor is his self-insert 
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I think he's also Anduin Wrynn.
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SunAndSpring posted:Yeah that's what I'm wondering: why don't any video game companies have editors? I have never seen a guy credited as an editor on the writing team ever. see: david cage, the bioshock dude
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Endorph posted:all the video game writers who really care about story are also the ones stuck up their own rear end from what i've been told there are very few game designers left who are interested in game design its just a means to an end to tell a story (lol)
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bhlaab posted:from what i've been told there are very few game designers left who are interested in game design its just a means to an end to tell a story (lol) platinum turned down hideo kojima as a writer for MGR 2 iirc platinum games are the best for plot, it's just more cool poo poo
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bhlaab posted:from what i've been told there are very few game designers left who are interested in game design its just a means to an end to tell a story (lol) It's kind of hard to say that when there's a shitload of games that come out each month that are worthwhile. AAA games maybe because they're like hundreds of millions of dollars, but there's loads of games that don't put the story above gameplay.
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Hog Butcher posted:platinum turned down hideo kojima as a writer for MGR 2 iirc that sounds like a not-good decision altho the 2nd sentence is also true
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bhlaab posted:from what i've been told there are very few game designers left who are interested in game design its just a means to an end to tell a story (lol) its more that the ones who are interested in game design arent usually the giant egoists who make a point of making sure they are personally known
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koolkal posted:that sounds like a not-good decision altho the 2nd sentence is also true the blade wolf cutscene at the beginning is the perfect example of platinum v. kojima on writing "why are you here?" "to kill you" vs "why are you here?" *john galt speech but with robot dog* kojima is not a good writer and i don't get why people think he is, the only thing he owns at is coming up with characters and i don't know if he's even the one who does that
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but his company is the one that did the writing even tho it wasnt himself that personally wrote it, he still had a ton of input and it would probably not have been nearly as insane without him
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kojima has a great sense of humor and his games generally have great gameplay so it's still fun despite the awful story, also he's not above making fun of his own dumb poo poo so it's at least tolerable there's some wiki page about the story of Path of Exile, which is told vaguely and piecemeal a la Dark Souls so 99% of players don't know what is going on and, get this, it's actually good as far as videogaming writing goes. an indie F2P ARPG has a better storyline than the vast majority of AAA games, which is absolutely hilarious to me, you can read it here tl;dr the more devs force their stories in your face the more it will invariably suck
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Morrowind was cool because of all the books. gently caress, I think I got an hours worth of time spent in Morrowind just reading all the poo poo I looted and bought.
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SunAndSpring posted:Morrowind was cool because of all the books. gently caress, I think I got an hours worth of time spent in Morrowind just reading all the poo poo I looted and bought. just an hour? Man when I found out about the hidden library under Vivec I spent almost an entire week trying to find stupid and obscure books explaining the dissident priests
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Good thing you can walk around the library at a snails pace and stop every few inches to catch your breath, and to really appreciate all the Lore they put into it.
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kojima writing is terrible but its the best kind of terrible it's just sappy, cheesy, movie stuff. it owns. unless youre one of those people who takes The MGS Canon extremely seriously in which case i'm sorry
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lol if you care about warcraft "lore"
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uther comes back but now he is a demon and also a bad guy
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Ekster posted:kojima has a great sense of humor and his games generally have great gameplay so it's still fun despite the awful story, also he's not above making fun of his own dumb poo poo so it's at least tolerable like warcraft
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LaTex Fetish posted:My most favorite moment is Arthas when he's going to get Frostmourne. He's just so hellbent on getting this item which will save his people and help him fight the scourge, but he doesn't realize he is the scourge yet. No Arthas, you are the scourge. And then Arthas was the scourge.
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Chomp8645 posted:No Arthas, you are the scourge. Your custom title is win as hell.
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Ekster posted:kojima has a great sense of humor and his games generally have great gameplay so it's still fun despite the awful story, also he's not above making fun of his own dumb poo poo so it's at least tolerable lmao i have literally never met anyone extolling the virtues of the lovely ultra grimdark story of Path of Exile until now, thanks I will say that they definitely took the correct route for storytelling in an ARPG in that you don't have to pay attention to any of it, but complexity/"REAL HISTORY with LOTS OF DATES" doesn't really make it at all worthwhile
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Wormskull posted:Your custom title is win as hell. Thank you. It takes a special kind of idiot to be so enraged over rick rolling that he rages purchases a title for someone.
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