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Prefect Six posted:Came to post about murderwolfdreadwolf wolfnaught and am staying for the wolfchariot of wolfenstien. Welcome to the Wolf Feast brother Bloodwolf. Have some MurderMead around the Bloodfire. That's a mighty fine DarkBolter with AngelRounds. Oh this? It's my YiffHammer. LordAba fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Pacheeco posted:Speaking of Chariots: If a Burning Chariot Jinks, is the Exalted Flamer rider forced to Snap Shoot? There's nothing that states occupants of a transport are forced to Snap Shoot if a Skimmer Transport claims a Jink save (a nice boost to Ghost Arks and Dark Eldar transports), but Exalted Flamers aren't traditional "occupants" per se. However a chariot rider's shooting attack is separate from the actual chariot vehicle's shooting attack (if it has one) so ????? Double-checking "The Rules," Chariots go out of their way to specify that Chariots and Transports are different, and should a Chariot suffer a Stunned result the rider wouldn't suffer a penalty whereas a Transport must make a Leadership check and (if failed) can only fire Snap Shots until the end of the next turn. However, the Jink special rule states that any models in the unit that Jinks (such as the rider of said Chariot) must fire Snap Shots until the end of their next turn (pg. 167).
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 03:50 |
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No lovingly greenstuffed red rocket. 0/5 stars.
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PierreTheMime posted:Double-checking "The Rules," Chariots go out of their way to specify that Chariots and Transports are different, and should a Chariot suffer a Stunned result the rider wouldn't suffer a penalty whereas a Transport must make a Leadership check and (if failed) can only fire Snap Shots until the end of the next turn. However, the Jink special rule states that any models in the unit that Jinks (such as the rider of said Chariot) must fire Snap Shots until the end of their next turn (pg. 167). Except it says on p.167 "If the unit Jinks, all models in the unit with this special rule gain a 4+ cover save until the start of their next Movement phase, but they can only fire Snap Shots until the end of their next turn". The Exalted Flamer doesn't have the Jink special rule, the Chariot (being that it is a Skimmer) has the Jink rule. So as far as I can read it, only the Chariot vehicle has to follow the Jink restrictions. I'm not trying to play "who knows the shittily written rules the best" or anything. It's more pure curiosity given that the Burning Chariot might actually be an okay pick for "Funhammer" lists now. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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LingcodKilla posted:Whole lot of people are gonna be pissed about having to remodel their now illegally geared troops. poo poo is bananas. Don't panic, WYSIWIG is gone and obsolete models remain legal anyway. JerryLee posted:No lovingly greenstuffed red rocket. 0/5 stars. God dammit, this long without a sheath reference. Post 9-11 User fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Pacheeco posted:Except it says on p.167 "If the unit Jinks, all models in the unit with this special rule gain a 4+ cover save until the start of their next Movement phase, but they can only fire Snap Shots until the end of their next turn". The Exalted Flamer doesn't have the Jink special rule, the Chariot (being that it is a Skimmer) has the Jink rule; in the same way that Necron Warriors don't have the Jink rule, it's the Ghost Ark that carries the rule. So as far as I can read it only the Chariot vehicle has to follow those restrictions. p.86: "A chariot is an unusual unit with a dual profile - a non-vehicle profile for the rider of the Charios, and a vehicle profile for the Chariot itself. However, a Chariot is always treated as a single model. For the purposes of characteristics tests, always use the rider's profile. Furthermore, any characteristics modifiers that affect a chariot model apply to both rider and Chariot." So snap shots would apply to both the vehicle and rider similarly.
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koreban posted:p.86: "A chariot is an unusual unit with a dual profile - a non-vehicle profile for the rider of the Charios, and a vehicle profile for the Chariot itself. However, a Chariot is always treated as a single model. For the purposes of characteristics tests, always use the rider's profile. Furthermore, any characteristics modifiers that affect a chariot model apply to both rider and Chariot." That's solid rules proof to me. There's not much difference between a 4+ cover and a 5+ invul anyways.
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Is it just me or are Codexes coming out faster and faster? Which honestly is a good and bad thing, but man I really hope the Codex by the end of the year is not Necrons.
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Hollismason posted:Is it just me or are Codexes coming out faster and faster? Which honestly is a good and bad thing, but man I really hope the Codex by the end of the year is not Necrons. This was a goal at the start of 6th if I recall correctly. I'm happy for it because it means, say, the Chaos book will get redone sooner rather than later.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 04:34 |
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I can't remember if it was posted here or I read it on my FLGS' facebook feed, but the rumored list was going to be something like Space Wolves, WHFB something or other, Hobbit/LoTR, Chaos supplements & dataslates, Dark Elder, Blood Angels (possibly in a campaign-style pairing) appearing in or around February 2015. At least, that's what everyone at the FLGS has been talking about as the general timeline (we have several blüd angels players who aren't at all happy about yiff marines getting love before they do).
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 04:44 |
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I too wish they had done blood angels before space wolves because I have about 30 assault marines I'd love to turn into a BA allied detatchment. Ultramarine assault marines don't seem very good, but I guess they would get one turn of fleet.
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koreban posted:I can't remember if it was posted here or I read it on my FLGS' facebook feed, but the rumored list was going to be something like Space Wolves, WHFB something or other, Hobbit/LoTR, Chaos supplements & dataslates, Dark Elder, Blood Angels (possibly in a campaign-style pairing) appearing in or around February 2015. last rumors I saw were that WHFB is getting a pause throughout the end of the year so they can get as much 40k out as possible
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William Murderfang Murderfang Murderfang
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 06:32 |
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Pack up the thread, we're done here.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 06:51 |
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This is from a few pages back but when people say "Good, but overcosted" when describing a model, well, that means it isn't good? Points cost is easily the most vital factor in how good a unit is.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 07:28 |
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Karandras posted:This is from a few pages back but when people say "Good, but overcosted" when describing a model, well, that means it isn't good? Points cost is easily the most vital factor in how good a unit is. I think that, speaking for myself at least, that this means that the model does what it's intended to but costs more than it probably should be. For example, Terminators (the regular variety) are "good, but overcosted" in a lot of ways- they have a good mix of shooting firepower and melee hitting power and there's precious few units they aren't a significant threat to. But given how expensive they are, they don't do quite enough to really justify themselves, especially with needing to Deep Strike in and all. You could also look at something like the Forgefiend in this respect- what it does is useful (it throw out more S8 shots than the Grey Knights Psybolt/Autocannon Dreadnought does, actually), but you're paying too much to get that capacity. The flip side would be something like Genestealers- due to a variety of design problems, they are not actually good at doing their main job (assaulting Marines.) If you made them cheap enough then yeah, they would eventually work, but their main problem is less one of price and more one of functionality.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 07:40 |
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Cythereal posted:Faith in GW restored. 40k is at its finest when it's tap-dancing on the line between silly and awesome. Nah man, GW is at its best when it stops tap-dancing that line and just starts skanking in the realm of silly. That's why this chariot is so great.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 08:02 |
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Hollismason posted:Is it just me or are Codexes coming out faster and faster? Which honestly is a good and bad thing, but man I really hope the Codex by the end of the year is not Necrons.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 08:08 |
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Did someone else post this earlier or was it one of those finds I cannot recollect? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR0cymJtyLg quote:The not so await first episode of the new series "Fresh tales from the crypt". Come closer as The Fresh Sorcerer opens the horrible as gently caress "Fanoros Fictionomicon", unleashing the darkest horrors of the internet.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 08:42 |
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Post 9-11 User posted:Did someone else post this earlier or was it one of those finds I cannot recollect? This is appropriate use of the internet.
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Post 9-11 User posted:Did someone else post this earlier or was it one of those finds I cannot recollect? Oh god, it hurts so much
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 11:50 |
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While GW releases dumb looking models, Forge World has discontinued the Kroot and Tallarn models.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 12:57 |
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Personally I find the WolfSled to be Rogue Trader as hell and I love it. Murderfist is allright though I'm not fond of the head sticking out while Bjorn and the Venerable are hella sweet.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Personally I find the WolfSled to be Rogue Trader as hell and I love it. Murderfist is allright though I'm not fond of the head sticking out while Bjorn and the Venerable are hella sweet. I have to see more details on the sled, but turning it into a Chaos Marine Slaanesh love sled (counts as lord on daemonic steed) should be fun!
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 13:59 |
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I saw a model kit and immediately thought of the ork possibilities. A 1:72 Sabre jet. Is the any particular method I should follow in looting it up, or should I just slam poo poo together until it looks right? Because of the scale, the pilot would be barely get their legs into the cockpit, leaving the rest of them hunched over the fuselage like a go-kart, which is good. The kit came with two iron bombs and two fuel tanks which kind of look like bombs, so I'm going to have to improvise some more cannons and explosives.
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Shadeoses posted:I saw a model kit and immediately thought of the ork possibilities. A 1:72 Sabre jet. the profile of that isn't far off the actual dakkajet. I would recommend against just slamming stuff together. take a look at the kit, imagine if it crashed. what areas of the kit would be damaged or wrecked and how would an ork repair them. Additionally, how would an ork improve on the original design. sketch out your ideas. decide where the orks would have to bolt pieces back on or where they'd add weapons,jets, rockets or propellers. What materials would they repair it with? Even though ork looted vehicles are ramshackle there should definitely be an orky logic to it.
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Shadeoses posted:I saw a model kit and immediately thought of the ork possibilities. A 1:72 Sabre jet. Looks a lot like the Dakkajet, just smaller. Also saw this while GISing:
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Cream_Filling posted:Looks a lot like the Dakkajet, just smaller. Does that mean it repels Jewish occupation or something? I must be missing something(?)
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 16:12 |
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Dakkajets? That Games Workshop published rules for the Flyin' 'Eadbutt absolves them of many sins. That rule... loving incredible.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 16:44 |
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Zog is one of the fake curse words GW uses for orks.
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Shadeoses posted:I saw a model kit and immediately thought of the ork possibilities. A 1:72 Sabre jet. The Mig 15 is another good Dakkajet conversion base.
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 17:04 |
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Today I made a Captain and then painted him. He came out as the best painted miniature I've ever done Army so far:
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Creepy Goat posted:Today I made a Captain and then painted him. He came out as the best painted miniature I've ever done I like it! The pose is great; are those assault marine legs? I didn't notice the cape at first because I was busy trying to guess what all of the bits are. Which bit is the cape?
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 19:40 |
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My new favorite thing is summoning Heralds of Slaanesh then immediately casting Psychic Shriek. I did not realize at all how powerful this spell was until I regularly started using it. Plus, Sacrifice is 1 Warp Charge which with a Chaos Sorcerer w/ Spell Familiar is super easy to cast.
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drgnvale posted:I like it! The pose is great; are those assault marine legs? I didn't notice the cape at first because I was busy trying to guess what all of the bits are. Which bit is the cape? Looks like the Sanguinary guard torso/legs. drat that looks good.
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drgnvale posted:I like it! The pose is great; are those assault marine legs? I didn't notice the cape at first because I was busy trying to guess what all of the bits are. Which bit is the cape? Thanks! I think the cape is from the Chaplain Enkomi Forgeworld model, and the legs might be Sanguinary Guard since they were in the a baggy with a bunch of Blood Angel stuff. Still not 100% on the cape colour but I'll see how it fits with the rest of the army scheme before changing it.
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So I'm thinking of throwing together a campaign for me and my little brother to play out. It will be my first campaign and it will be CSM versus Space Marines. To that end I have bought the altar of war missions for both CSM and SM, kill team, and I found a PDF of the death world rules. From these I'll probably pick the missions that will suit the narrative I eventually come up with. Are there any other resources I could use to help build missions?
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# ? Aug 2, 2014 22:25 |
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Miniwargaming make some cool story-based missions that they play out on their YT channel, might be worth watching a few for inspiration.
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Creepy Goat posted:Miniwargaming make some cool story-based missions that they play out on their YT channel, might be worth watching a few for inspiration. That was what actually inspired me to do this. I'm thinking of aping the concept of one of Dave's campaigns. They also are what turned me onto the Death world table.
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Having played against Thunderfire Cannons for the first time just now, let me say: gently caress Thunderfire Cannons. Against my sweet AV13 wall of Necron vehicles he just poo poo out a few of the dangerous terrain shots and immobilized 2 of my vehicles on the first turn. Catacomb Command Barges are sick as gently caress now. Being able to direct the easy or unlikely poo poo (S6-7 weaponry) against the CCB is rad and having a Phase Shifter on the Overlord to tank the dangerous poo poo (melta weapons) is really awesome.
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