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Careful Drums posted:The implication was that my salary wouldn't change, but tbh I don't remember the details but I did get two separate w2s, one from the agency and one from my company after they hired me. So I duno. Point stands though, always negotiate. If you were going through an agency the company was probably paying a ton more to them then they are to you now. They offered you the position to save some cash. But to hire you outright from the agency, the company probably paid a finders fee, so they may not see that savings for quite some time. Just some made up numbers.. Say you were making $100/hour. Tack on taxes, benefits, overhead, that might have actually cost the agency $170/hour. They want a profit, so they bill you at $200/hour. Your company comes along and hires you for say, $90/hour. They probably have better benefits, so you total package is better. With those benefits, taxes, etc, they're now paying $170/hour. But they gave $20000 to the agency for a finders fee. Look on the bright side, they invested in you for the long term so they must think you are valuable. Enjoy the job, wait a year, do something great, ask for a raise.
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Gounads posted:If you were going through an agency the company was probably paying a ton more to them then they are to you now. They offered you the position to save some cash. But to hire you outright from the agency, the company probably paid a finders fee, so they may not see that savings for quite some time. Thanks, that's basically what I'm doing. I just hit a year this summer and they do annual reviews in October, which is why I'm working on my resume - to either get a better job or use it to leverage a big rear end raise (your made up numbers are wayy higher than what I'm at.). The benefits are poo poo though so I still wouldn't bat an eye at going somewhere with better insurance, because oh gently caress having a family is expensive in medical care.
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Gounads posted:If you were going through an agency the company was probably paying a ton more to them then they are to you now. They offered you the position to save some cash. But to hire you outright from the agency, the company probably paid a finders fee, so they may not see that savings for quite some time. Thanks for this, I am going to be starting a new job as a contract-to-hire person so this might be me in 6-12 months assuming I end up being useful.
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I'm coming up on about two months working at my new workplace. During the interview, my direct superior mentioned that I would "go full-time" around the fall, which I'm guessing means in about a month. This full-time status comes with a pay raise and a standard 40hr work week. I want to make sure that this happens, cause I'd like the pay bump, but there is nothing in writing that explicitly says this will actually happen - I only have his word during the interview itself. When should I ask my boss what the deal is with that? I feel like I'd come off as greedy or demanding if I broach this subject with just two months or so under my belt, but I'd just really like to be sure of where I will be in the near future.
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Pollyanna posted:I'm coming up on about two months working at my new workplace. During the interview, my direct superior mentioned that I would "go full-time" around the fall, which I'm guessing means in about a month. This full-time status comes with a pay raise and a standard 40hr work week. I want to make sure that this happens, cause I'd like the pay bump, but there is nothing in writing that explicitly says this will actually happen - I only have his word during the interview itself. When should I ask my boss what the deal is with that? I feel like I'd come off as greedy or demanding if I broach this subject with just two months or so under my belt, but I'd just really like to be sure of where I will be in the near future. Ask right now. "Hey, when do you think I'll be going up to full time? I need to make sure I schedule for it."
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Pollyanna posted:I'm coming up on about two months working at my new workplace. During the interview, my direct superior mentioned that I would "go full-time" around the fall, which I'm guessing means in about a month. This full-time status comes with a pay raise and a standard 40hr work week. I want to make sure that this happens, cause I'd like the pay bump, but there is nothing in writing that explicitly says this will actually happen - I only have his word during the interview itself. When should I ask my boss what the deal is with that? I feel like I'd come off as greedy or demanding if I broach this subject with just two months or so under my belt, but I'd just really like to be sure of where I will be in the near future. I wouldn't yet pin your hopes on "in about a month", as "Fall" is pretty broad and early-mid september isn't even in it technically. That said 90 days is pretty standard for a probationary period so given you're 2 months in you may be correct. Anyway, I would bring it up as a friendly inquiry as soon as appropriate and no later than a month or so. Your position shift could be totally on schedule and just knowing that and what the schedule is will put you at ease. Or it could be totally forgotten about because your boss and/or HR is bad at their job. Or it could be "forgotten about" on the hopes/assumption that you won't bring it up and they'll save some bucks unless/until you finally do speak up (or even denied and countered with "really? well I don't remember any agreement like that"). Don't let those sparsely different scenarios cause you anxiety, just ask and see what their response is. I don't know your boss/workplace so this wasn't really meant as any accusation towards them. I would guess you're more likely to be taken care of than be hosed around with like in one of the shittier scenarios above, but it is best to clear the air about that agreement. If you're having cold feet to broach the subject, couch it under whatever reasons you feel may help. A go-to is that you're worried about the stability of the position as it was promised and until it reaches that point you will struggle to support your wife/girlfriend/kids/mom/pet hamster/whatever. That stuff is entirely irrelevant & none of their business, and you do not need any justification for asking them to stick what they've agreed to, but if you're finding trouble working up the nerve to talk about it sometimes thinking of items like that (even if it's grossly exaggerated) will help. Bhaal fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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HondaCivet posted:Thanks for this, I am going to be starting a new job as a contract-to-hire person so this might be me in 6-12 months assuming I end up being useful. Building on this, is it common for people going from to contact to full-time after 6-12 months to be better off than they would have been had they gone from contract to quitting for a full time position at an entirely different company after the same amount of time? Wondering if I should plan to convert at my current place around the nine month mark or just start sending resumes out to other companies around the ten- or eleven-month mark.
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enraged_camel posted:For job applications that ask for code samples, is it OK to include links to answers I've posted on Stack Overflow? I'd link my Github projects, but they're all private repositories unfortunately (proprietary code I wrote for my employer). Any thoughts on this? 
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enraged_camel posted:Any thoughts on this? If they're good answers, I don't see why not.
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EB Nulshit posted:Building on this, is it common for people going from to contact to full-time after 6-12 months to be better off than they would have been had they gone from contract to quitting for a full time position at an entirely different company after the same amount of time? Completely depends on the companies. Some companies give the best raises to entice you to stay when you tell them you're leaving. Some companies avoid that BS and make sure to always pay you what your worth. Some companies prefer contractors because they don't count in their "headcount" numbers that outside investors look at and will pay more for them because of that.
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e: this was a stupid thing to post!
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I have an interview at 4:30 that looks like it will be "brief 15-30 minute telephone / live coding technical assessment." It's for a full-stack/front-end Python software developer position. What sort of question(s) should I expect?
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Out of the last round of interviews at my company, we found a candidate we'd like to hire. He currently works for a company that is a customer of our company. My boss wants to somehow make sure that giving the candidate an offer won't offend the customer. Besides the practical obstacle that there isn't really a way to do this without tipping the candidate's hand and endangering his current job, isn't this illegal (we operate in Connecticut)? It smells a lot like the non-poaching agreement that a bunch of companies in the valley got slapped with a CAL for last year. If this does violate some law I'd like to know so that I can bring it up to my boss in an email (vs. a face-to-face conversation that wouldn't lead a paper trail) in the hopes that knowing such behavior is illicit would prevent us from acting in this dickish manner. An unspoken one-way choice to not poach an employee doesn't sound illegal to me. As far as it being dickish goes, if the employee's being hired because of general programming skill, and you didn't find out about him through your connection with that customer company, it doesn't sound dickish. On the other hand, if the employee has product-specific knowledge that makes him extra valuable to your company, maybe it is a bit dickish. On the other hand, it's also less economically suboptimal in the macro sense (given that you're destroying less institutional knowledge). The scenario your boss would like to avoid is, perhaps, where the other company starts poaching his employees. That means you. You are an adversary to your boss here. So act like one. (Of course it's in my best interest that other people are the ones that stick their neck out.
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shrughes posted:As far as it being dickish goes, if the employee's being hired because of general programming skill, and you didn't find out about him through your connection with that customer company, it doesn't sound dickish. On the other hand, if the employee has product-specific knowledge that makes him extra valuable to your company, maybe it is a bit dickish. On the other hand, it's also less economically suboptimal in the macro sense (given that you're destroying less institutional knowledge). Perhaps I was unclear: the part I think is dickish is my boss wanting to call the potential hire's boss and ask if it's OK to hire one of his employees before extending an offer. I think we should just send the guy an offer.
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Out of the last round of interviews at my company, we found a candidate we'd like to hire. He currently works for a company that is a customer of our company. My boss wants to somehow make sure that giving the candidate an offer won't offend the customer. Besides the practical obstacle that there isn't really a way to do this without tipping the candidate's hand and endangering his current job, isn't this illegal (we operate in Connecticut)? It smells a lot like the non-poaching agreement that a bunch of companies in the valley got slapped with a CAL for last year. If this does violate some law I'd like to know so that I can bring it up to my boss in an email (vs. a face-to-face conversation that wouldn't lead a paper trail) in the hopes that knowing such behavior is illicit would prevent us from acting in this dickish manner. Get legal on the horn not idiot forums posters.
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Malcolm XML posted:Get legal on the horn not idiot forums posters. Fair point.
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Okay then, what's the other guy gonna do, say, "Why yes, I'd love for you to hire away one of my employees!" It's not like he means it. You should just hire the guy. Yeah, anyway, definitely, as far as legality goes, I would not recommend calling and asking. Not calling and not hiring could be okay. Should you email your boss and say in person? Depends on how much you value your relationship with your boss/company. The fact that you'd choose to send an email or be verbal is something that I would take as a signal. But then I'm a bit sensitive to that sort of thing due to upbringing.
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Out of the last round of interviews at my company, we found a candidate we'd like to hire. He currently works for a company that is a customer of our company. My boss wants to somehow make sure that giving the candidate an offer won't offend the customer. Besides the practical obstacle that there isn't really a way to do this without tipping the candidate's hand and endangering his current job, isn't this illegal (we operate in Connecticut)? It smells a lot like the non-poaching agreement that a bunch of companies in the valley got slapped with a CAL for last year. If this does violate some law I'd like to know so that I can bring it up to my boss in an email (vs. a face-to-face conversation that wouldn't lead a paper trail) in the hopes that knowing such behavior is illicit would prevent us from acting in this dickish manner. You're right, it could piss off your customer if you snatch up their employees. Or maybe it won't. Maybe they won't find out. I don't believe there's anything illegal about it unless you've signed some sort of agreement with them, and even then my cursory glances are suggesting that those agreements aren't holding up in court lately. Otto Skorzeny posted:Perhaps I was unclear: the part I think is dickish is my boss wanting to call the potential hire's boss and ask if it's OK to hire one of his employees before extending an offer. I think we should just send the guy an offer. LOL what is wrong with your boss If this guy is really worth the trouble then maybe double-check with your lawyers but I doubt there'd be anything illegal about hiring the guy. But it could damage your relationship with that client. HondaCivet fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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HondaCivet posted:If this guy is really worth the trouble then maybe double-check with your lawyers but I doubt there'd be anything illegal about hiring the guy. But it could damage your relationship with that client. I really thought I had clarified this, but to reiterate: I don't think hiring the guy is wrong or illegal, I think an implicit non-poaching agreement with one of our customers is wrong (it fucks over the engineer we want to hire, who applied for the position without us contacting him) and maybe illegal (a possible violation of section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890) regardless of any legitimate concerns we may have of pissing off a customer. I'm going to edit my earlier post because I must have written it badly if everyone who reads it gets an inverted meaning from the text compared to the meaning that I intended to convey (and besides, like Malcolm XML said it was stupid of me to solicit opinions on this from an internet comedy forum rather than bringing the issue up with my boss and my company's legal department.
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I'm in a weird position. My boss just told me they think I've been ready for a promotion (and big raise) for a while, but because of some corporate reorganization stuff that's been going on for the last few months, they haven't done it yet because they're not sure what title to give me. I've got a few interviews scheduled, but how should I handle this? I said something like "I'm flattered you think I'm that good, but that's not a promotion. What are you gonna do about this?" That got him pretty nervous and he said that he'd talk to our team lead to get a move on with this. I'm the newest guy on our team so I don't want to throw a big fit, but I'm still pissed over this.
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I guess anyone can find themselves at least thinking about doing that, but it would be one unpleasant motherfucker who actually picks up the phone or sends off that email. Could you imagine your potential employer spilling the beans to your boss before they ever extend an offer? For crying out loud, this "we like you and want to make an offer" phase of an employment relationship is where your potential boss is supposed to be at their highest levels of acting like he has your best interests at heart! If he's capable of calling your current boss... before an offer is even extended... at a time where he should be at least pretending to give a gently caress about you--how warm and fuzzy are you gonna feel about sidling into that job? gently caress me. Your boss's non-scumbag options: 1) Extend the offer and be a grown up about any repercussions 2) Say "Sorry, we can't do this until [event], because it conflicts with our relationship with your employer" Either of which assume your boss does some real research on the topic. Talk to whoever manages that relationship within his company, or his higher ups or whatever. It will completely depend, I can see something like that ranging from a major existential crisis for the entire business relationship, all the way down to not even being a blip on the radar for the other company. What he needs to do is figure things out on his own and come to a decision responsibly. Please tell us if he actually goes through with that because gently caress me. EDIT instead of a doublepost: null gallagher posted:I'm in a weird position. My boss just told me they think I've been ready for a promotion (and big raise) for a while, but because of some corporate reorganization stuff that's been going on for the last few months, they haven't done it yet because they're not sure what title to give me. It could be money, where they want a little more of a reserve to build up (or VC to finalize, etc) before making the change. You don't have a lot of options here. They could be literally unable to budget it right now, or they could be playing it cautious (far more likely). Either way, again, if this is his response you have some leeway to inquire about the details of the money issue. It could be procedural (this is the one I'm betting on, just barely ahead of money), that is to say, for instance, raises can mean budget increases which means approval from the board or shareholders or however that's structured with your company. Sometimes it's easier to package promotions and other expenses into a bundle and showcase it as a "growth initiative", which if you only ask for every now and then should go through pretty easily (but everything has to wait until the whole proposal is ready), compared to going for approval for every nickel and dime budget change. With the former you look like a department that really has your poo poo all planned out, whereas the former starts spending a lot of political capital as well as quickly comes across as unorganized (but the turn-around for requests that get approved is usually extremely quick). As companies grow they almost invariably start on one end of the spectrum and make their way to the other. Anyway, ask for details. If they want to say "we know you deserve a raise/promotion but we don't have that for you right now", they at least should give you a solid understanding of why that is the case. You can't exactly tell them you fell short on, say, a project you're working on and then walk away without giving further explanation, can you? They'll want to know why, even if it isn't your fault for the problems, they'll want to know why it's delayed. Ask the same from them. Bhaal fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Fair point. Also HR, this is their domain.
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HondaCivet posted:
Thanks for the info. Turns out I passed the phone screen and am going for an on-site interview near the end of the month  I've been getting more contact with recruiters from the area who are giving me good options. I guess Portland is more of a hotbed for .net activity than I thought. On the other hand I finally got some email from recruiters offering me positions across the country in technologies I don't use. I think I'll just block them without responding.I'm in Salem right now- salary permitting wife and I would like to move to the Portland area. Things are looking a bit better but I still have a long ways to go.
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null gallagher posted:I'm in a weird position. My boss just told me they think I've been ready for a promotion (and big raise) for a while, but because of some corporate reorganization stuff that's been going on for the last few months, they haven't done it yet because they're not sure what title to give me. I'd just say thank you and probe about why the company is dragging its feet, just frame it as if there's something you can do. How you should handle this news depends on why you are leaving. If the company is super awesome but you just want to make more money then it sounds like you are on the right track. If there are other systemic problems is making more money going to help? I wouldn't hold my breath about the promotion unless you get a good reason for why there is a holdup, and what they are going to do to resolve the hold up. I'd also go to your scheduled interviews. Maybe someone else will hire you for a better paying job without the overhead of the promotion. Your company owes you nothing and you owe them nothing.
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candy for breakfast posted:Thanks for the info. Turns out I passed the phone screen and am going for an on-site interview near the end of the month Congrats! Yeah there's quite a bit of .NET up here but it's not really from the more visible companies so it can feel a bit sparse until you start digging/get help from recruiters.
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null gallagher posted:I'm in a weird position. My boss just told me they think I've been ready for a promotion (and big raise) for a while, but because of some corporate reorganization stuff that's been going on for the last few months, they haven't done it yet because they're not sure what title to give me. At a previous job, I had my annual review and my boss said, "you've been really excellent but I put you down as, 'needs improvement' because if I rated you any higher we'd have to give you a raise and it's not in the budget." It was a pretty honest thing to tell me, and it helped me feel good about turning in my notice.
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Bhaal posted:Stuff gariig posted:More stuff Mniot posted:Even more stuff It's definitely not a money issue. I work at a huge, super bureaucratic financial. I'm interviewing someone next week, so we're not hurting for budget. They're changing the titles of everyone on my team as part of this re-org/restructure, so my impression's that it's a big bureaucratic deal. I'm thinking that I'll go to my boss or his boss next week and ask what they're doing about it. And figure out a diplomatic way to remind him that every week I go without being promoted, I'm getting underpaid in their own admission, and I really don't like that. Mostly I'm worried about managing the line between being assertive and pushing them to get this done, and being an obnoxious dick. You know, saying “hey, remember that every pay period that passes by is one I’m getting underpaid” a little more formally.
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Mniot posted:At a previous job, I had my annual review and my boss said, "you've been really excellent but I put you down as, 'needs improvement' because if I rated you any higher we'd have to give you a raise and it's not in the budget." It was a pretty honest thing to tell me, and it helped me feel good about turning in my notice. Haha wow. At least he was honest I guess. Tunga posted:When my company delayed my pay review for two months I told them that I expected my increase to be backdated since it was through no fault of my own. And what did they say about that? Goddamn how dumb do you have to be to take good people for granted? And they wonder why they can't find/keep talent.
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HondaCivet posted:And what did they say about that? Yeah exactly. I was told a few months back after my performance review that I was doing a kickass job and that I'd be up for promotion soon. I didn't press my boss on that, and that's totally my fault. I think it caught him off guard when I asked him what he's doing about me not being promoted because of that.
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Mniot posted:At a previous job, I had my annual review and my boss said, "you've been really excellent but I put you down as, 'needs improvement' because if I rated you any higher we'd have to give you a raise and it's not in the budget." It was a pretty honest thing to tell me, and it helped me feel good about turning in my notice. My boss came to my review with the highest markings in every category, told me that she wasn't supposed to give out reviews that high, and then went and printed out a new form with lower markings and told me to sign that one. I think she thought it was a nice gesture or something? Like "hey I can't put this down but you're doing a good job." At best I can take that as "our review process is a joke" and at worst you're actively loving me over by not giving me the review you think I deserve. It was probably the former considering said review took place in a hallway.
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null gallagher posted:They're changing the titles of everyone on my team as part of this re-org/restructure, so my impression's that it's a big bureaucratic deal. I'm thinking that I'll go to my boss or his boss next week and ask what they're doing about it. And figure out a diplomatic way to remind him that every week I go without being promoted, I'm getting underpaid in their own admission, and I really don't like that. You must really like the job. To me this is way too much effort for a raise that won't beat what a new job will pay you.
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Tunga posted:When my company delayed my pay review for two months I told them that I expected my increase to be backdated since it was through no fault of my own. This was years ago but I once had this job that I left, and one big reason being I had been given a promotion but not the raise that went with it (they had a standard pay structure at least for the low level poo poo I was doing back then). Six months like that went by but they were so dysfunctional that every time I brought it up to my supervisor... it was already a different supervisor because they rotated out like a carousel. Shortly before I found another job and left, someone with some authority at that company said they would "get the backpay sorted out". That of course never came, but I had my new job and though the backpay was pretty substantial by that time I really just wanted to forget about that whole terrible loving experience at that place and just move on. Some time later tax season rolled around and lo, the YTD $ on my last paycheck from them (which I'm so loving glad I had the presence of mind to keep and check on) was far below the stated income on the W2 they mailed me. So they never bothered about giving me a dime in backpay, but they sure as hell made sure I got taxed on all of it! The phone call that followed was a slightly more cordial version of: "Hi assholes! You're gonna want to fix this loving immediately!  " and it sort of felt great. They wired me the full backpay the same day.Don't give employers an inch, basically. Bhaal fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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HondaCivet posted:And what did they say about that? Bhaal posted:Good luck with that. I mean that seriously. Not many places would consider honoring something like that. They stopped putting this in the contracts recently. Tunga fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Is the original post still being updated? I'm interested in some advice on building a good/efficient portfolio. Also should I just host some sort of webpage for that, or do up a list of things i've done, or what? Thanks in advance!
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gariig posted:You must really like the job. To me this is way too much effort for a raise that won't beat what a new job will pay you. You're right. Especially since I screwed up salary negotiations when I got hired, and I'm sure the higher ups here know that. Anyone know anything about working at hedge funds? A recruiter emailed me for a job at one and the interview's tomorrow. I'm sure the pay is awesome, but I don't really know anything about working at one. Tryptomine posted:Is the original post still being updated? Put whatever personal-interest projects you have on GitHub, and link it on your resume up with your contact info. When you list out the projects on your resume/linkedin, put links to their repos on there too. null gallagher fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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null gallagher posted:Anyone know anything about working at hedge funds? A recruiter emailed me for a job at one and the interview's tomorrow. I'm sure the pay is awesome, but I don't really know anything about working at one. Depends on the hedge fund. Do you have any knowledge/experience with various financial instruments, or at least a strong desire to learn? If not, pay may be decidedly less awesome. For example, if you have an assignment/story to develop graphical representations of a comparison between different CDX tranches, how hosed are you going to be if they need it next week? It's a fast-paced environment. Best practices will always take a back door to getting things done for a trader who just made $200mm using your software. Some hedge funds may move slower, but these tend to be shrinking anyways. Be awesome, finance is very elitist. Talk fast and have a big dick to swing around. Negotiate hard, finance is not a place for the weak and you may in fact end up getting paid under market if you fail. Someone getting taken advantage of in finance is something everyone else laughs about. Of course, you could have a different experience than I did, but I worked at two different hedge funds and they were fairly similar.
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