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Twitch.tv just announced a flurry of new changes in the past 24 hours. - Justin.tv is dead. Justin.tv, the parent company of Twitch, officially rebranded itself as Twitch on February 10th, as Twitch massively overtook Justin.tv in popularity. The next natural step followed last night, as Justin.tv announced it was shutting down after seven years of service. Let's not forget that Twitch gets very irate when you stream stuff that isn't related to video games, and with the removal of Justin.tv, there's no place for people to do that within Justin/Twitch's company ecosystem anymore. - An automated audio content detection system has been added to Twitch for VODs. It's pretty new and the kinks are still being worked out, but copyrighted material in archived video will now be surrounded by a half-hour block of silence, which is a problem for pro streamers, for which it was common practice to stream music they like alongside themselves playing games against pubbies or practicing. It sucks to see this go away but it's understandable, especially if the rumors of Google acquiring Twitch are true. What isn't understandable is that this also applies to music from game soundtracks, and considering Twitch.tv is a website all about streaming video games, this is going as well as you can expect. For a chunk of time after the change, Dota 2's "The International" tournaments - THE big annual Dota 2 tournament held by Valve themselves - had their archives muted all the way through due to in-game audio, and Twitch has even managed to automatically mute content from their own channel. - If your VODs are silenced, well, be glad they're not being loving deleted, because Twitch also announced swooping changes to the VOD systems, including limiting the archival of videos after their posting date based on whether or not you're subscribed to their premium service, and outright deleting all VODs ever made before this date. Here is a brief list of the features that Twitch is planning to introduce to make up for this stripping of content: I see no benefit to consumers on this end of changes. Is there anyone that knows more about the business end of Twitch that could justify these actions on Twitch's part? Did they really need that much extra space on their servers, could they not handle the current load of features on the website? Be sure to like my status and subscribe to my YouTube channel, thanks gamers. https://twitter.com/hitboxliveHelp/statuses/497150137933000705 Pirate Jet fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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I'm pretty sure implementation of ContentID was the exact thing I said would happen when we talked about the Google buyout last time Based on people who have said the scraper mutes music FROM THE GAMES as well as streamers who sing notes, it sounds like the same exact scraper as Youtube's, a scraper that tries to solve an ant problem with a meteor
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:47 |
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My app times out after 30 seconds or so of streaming.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:49 |
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Free public domain music earns you a muted VOD. Crypt of The Necrodancer with its soundtrack also triggers muting, despite not being registered to the "this belongs to us, mute it if you find it" service.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:49 |
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MrLonghair posted:Free public domain music earns you a muted VOD That's great, because in their blog post about the changes, they specifically say that public domain music will be unaffected.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:50 |
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What a terrible night for a stream. And here I was excited to stream stuff from my PS4 once I get it, suddenly that looks like it's gonna be a bust.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:52 |
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Can someone explain why this doesn't happen on Youtube? Why is Twitch the exception?
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:52 |
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It does happen on Youtube, a lot. Their scraper is bullshit and will claim public domain music, birds chirping, whatever. http://boingboing.net/2012/02/27/rumblefish-claims-to-own-copyr.html I don't know what Twitch's process is, but the arbitrator of a copyright dispute on Youtube, is the company making the claim, rather than Youtube or a third party. So they get to be judge jury and executioner. Hopefully Twitch's process is a lot less painful. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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sci_fi_door_opening.wav and MUTED!
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:54 |
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And so began the great Twitch exodus
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:55 |
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I find Twitch relaxing. I hope these changes don't affect the stuff that I like, which actually doesn't include streamers playing their lovely music in the background. I don't mind the odd audio clip when something special happens - but it looks like those are in danger too.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:57 |
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If you stream "professionally", Twitch basically gives the largest payout for time spent right? I wonder how this is going to affect those people.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 01:59 |
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Overlord K posted:What a terrible night for a stream. Pretty sure the PS4 also has the option to stream to Ustream or something, so you'll be fine!
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:03 |
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Quick we gotta clean up our act so our billion dollar deal goes through! Mute all NES speedruns! They don't give a gently caress about what's muted or not, they just gotta get something in quick so they get their payout. Still leaves the huge loophole that you can still livestream copyrighted music. Wouldn't surprise me if they started handing out warnings soon to twitch accounts. iuvian fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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good thing I'm a giant hipster and the stuff I listen to is mostly unsigned artists. also a simple pitch shift on the stream gets right past the filter. oh yeah it's on the player too so in like 3 hours someone will make a thing that fixes it (you can already just download the whole video)
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:05 |
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I'd say I was the kind of user that watched a lot more VODs than streams so this pretty much kills the site for me. Not only that but I know people that specifically didn't stream on youtube simply because twitch let them play music while they gamed and now that's gone as well so... Yeah. The worst is probably how they claim they are doing it to "help broadcasters." I did enjoy how Hitbox immediately began cannibilizing users though, that was funny.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:07 |
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Det_no posted:I'd say I was the kind of user that watched a lot more VODs than streams so this pretty much kills the site for me. Not only that but I know people that specifically didn't stream on youtube simply because twitch let them play music while they gamed and now that's gone as well so... it is to help us it's to help us keep them from possibly having to pay one of their lawyers to argue that their TOS said it was against the rules so they're not liable.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:12 |
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Copywrite laws ruin everything good and decent in this world. Whatever happened to the push some shithead developers were on about collecting a percentage/all streamer income because "they made the content". I hope someone stoned some of them to death and the rest backed down in fear.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:24 |
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Though I have not tested it I have read that simply pressing spacebar twice during a muted section unmutes it. Good job!
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:26 |
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Good thing Google doesn't care what we think. The Internet will get over it in a week.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:29 |
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This is good because if I wanted to listen to music while watching Twitch I'd just stream it myself.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:36 |
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Shadowlz posted:Good thing Google doesn't care what we think. The Internet will get over it in a week.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 02:51 |
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Not even Mike Tyson's Punchout is safe: http://www.twitch.tv/zallard1/c/4605350
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:04 |
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Well this is pretty much the death of twich here can we move onto a better streaming service now.
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Sprawl posted:Well this is pretty much the death of twich here can we move onto a better streaming service now. I just tried hitbox and it's already a good alternative from twitch.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:18 |
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The only real alternative right now is hitbox, which is run by the scammers who ran own3d. There will probably be some growth of competition, but really this is just the end of the golden age of game streaming. I hope you like your streams as vanilla and boring as your youtube content!
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:19 |
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Lots of other sites are recommending hitbox big time too. This is what happens when you gently caress the golden goose. Google can't have a monopoly on everything.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:20 |
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Speaking of hitbox: https://twitter.com/hitboxliveHelp/status/497150137933000705
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K8.0 posted:The only real alternative right now is hitbox, which is run by the scammers who ran own3d. There will probably be some growth of competition, but really this is just the end of the golden age of game streaming. I hope you like your streams as vanilla and boring as your youtube content! the airtran of streaming companies
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:31 |
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I'm really confused, I can find at least ten sites to sell my naked body on but there's only one site to sell my clothed body playing games on? That is hosed up, anyone have any ideas?
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satanic splash-back posted:I'm really confused, I can find at least ten sites to sell my naked body on but there's only one site to sell my clothed body playing games on? That is hosed up, anyone have any ideas? Stream video games nude? Some streamers are already half way there.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:34 |
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I download all my music from Twitch VODs. Y'know, there's just that warmth to my tracks when they have gunfire sounds and a Doritos bag being ruffled all swirled in. This is problematic and I can't even.
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satanic splash-back posted:I'm really confused, I can find at least ten sites to sell my naked body on but there's only one site to sell my clothed body playing games on? That is hosed up, anyone have any ideas? The porn industry actually understands how they make money.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:39 |
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GabeN needs to save us with a built in steam streaming system.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:45 |
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Photex posted:GabeN needs to save us with a built in steam streaming system. They could just call it "Steaming" and integrate it right into Steam. Set up a chat overlay, run polls through the Steam overlay, IT WOULD BE PERFECT. Gabe, you need to get on this poo poo right the gently caress now.
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:50 |
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This has been mentioned, but the hitbox owners are the same as own3d, who owe a good amount of people money http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/393965-destiny-own3d-paying-streamers-late-not-fulfilling-contract-promises
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# ? Aug 7, 2014 03:51 |
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It's funny because prior to twitch I hadn't bought music in years, and because of twitch I've actually purchased certain things by the music industry. Nevermind the ridiculously effective free marketing game companies get through twitch streams. Pirate Jet posted:- Justin.tv is dead. Justin.tv, the parent company of Twitch, officially rebranded itself as Twitch on February 10th, as Twitch massively overtook Justin.tv in popularity. The next natural step followed last night, as Justin.tv announced it was shutting down after seven years of service. Let's not forget that Twitch gets very irate when you stream stuff that isn't related to video games, and with the removal of Justin.tv, there's no place for people to do that within Justin/Twitch's company ecosystem anymore. They seem to acknowledge that people enjoy watching specific streamers, but at the same time they often try to regulate the site like people are there to watch a game and who is broadcasting doesn't matter. satanic splash-back posted:I'm really confused, I can find at least ten sites to sell my naked body on but there's only one site to sell my clothed body playing games on? That is hosed up, anyone have any ideas? If you want to make money streaming, welp. Hitbox is owned by the own3d guys, but ad revenue is poo poo on twitch and just as poo poo anywhere else. The only reason own3d owes so much is because they tried to offer big cash money for people to stream there, and it didn't work out on the fiscal side of things. Azubu didn't work out for the people forced to stream there. They lost almost all of their viewers. But the azubu site really sucks and hitbox's site is fairly usable in comparison. Khorne fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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stringball posted:This has been mentioned, but the hitbox owners are the same as own3d, who owe a good amount of people money Destiny got really hosed over by own3d, they stopped paying him while he was in Poland practicing at one of the SC2 houses.
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Bleusilences posted:I just tried hitbox and it's already a good alternative from twitch. Well other then the whole own3d people owning it sure.
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I wonder what this means for the charity marathons that use Twitch like AGDQ/ESA. You probably couldn't speedrun Vice City without the entirety of it being muted. I'm assuming they'll leave and go to Hitbox.
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