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Saturn889 posted:Agreed. Frontiers was awesome. It's a shame actually that the director hasn't come up with anything close to it since then. Gens said that doing Hitman almost made him want to quit directing entirely because of the absurd amount of studio meddling that wrecked that film, and The Divide didn't do very well IIRC (I thought it was mediocre but had its moments) so it's not surprising.
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Speed Crazy posted:I met him only briefly, but he was very friendly and welcoming to talk to. Dude just loves indulgently disgusting horror. Misery, The Mist, Creepshow 1/2, Pet Cemetery
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Aug 7, 2014 17:05
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Maximum Overdrive, Dreamcatcher, and Silver Bullet are reall, really dumb. But I think they are some pretty fun King movies.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:09
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Horns posted:Misery, The Mist, Creepshow 1/2, Pet Cemetery Pet Sematary isn't essential and Creepshow isn't strictly an adaptation - I think one story in each movie is based on a King story, and one of them routinely gets shat on because King starred in it. I would say the TV adaptation of The Stand is essential. The cast was pretty frigging amazing for TV at the time. Also the full length version of Salem's Lot, The Dead Zone (both movie and TV show are good), and of course the original Carrie.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:13
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Pet Semetary's kind of a janky movie, but I think it captures the tone of King's work better than almost any of them.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:15
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Also It, if only for Tim Curry's performance.
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Skywalker OG posted:Maximum Overdrive, Dreamcatcher, and Silver Bullet are reall, really dumb. But I think they are some pretty fun King movies. Agreed except for Dreamcatcher, it's just bad all around. Jedit posted:Pet Sematary isn't essential and Creepshow isn't strictly an adaptation - I think one story in each movie is based on a King story, and one of them routinely gets shat on because King starred in it. King wrote all of both Creepshow films. The first had two adaptations with the rest written for the film, while the second was one adaptation and two original stories. Horns fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 17:16
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Shawshank and Green Mile are probably his most critically acclaimed.
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Darthemed posted:Also It, if only for Tim Curry's performance. I feel like everyone's good memories of it come from the first half. The second half is goddamn wretched.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:24
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:
It really must be said that this chick could SCREAM. Dissapointed Owl posted:What a wildly uncharacteristic SMG post. It's nice to get confirmation that he is an actual person and not some kind of algorithm.
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Definitely one of the all-time greatest final girls.
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Concerning King movies, I have a soft spot for Needful things.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:34
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I asked this earlier in the thread but did anyone ever see Proxy? I watched it again last night and my feelings about it haven't changed at all. Talk abut a movie where I hated every one of the characters.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:35
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I really really really love The Stand, to the point where I don't think anyone in future movies is going to be able to live up to Jamey Sheridan's version of Flagg. Also maybe the only time Rob Lowe was actually likeable in a role.
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lizardman posted:It's nice to get confirmation that he is an actual person and not some kind of algorithm. He is not human. He is a monster, he claims. It's not that he has the mask of a theoretician, and beneath he is a more human person, he likes chocolate cakes, he likes this, he likes that, and so on, which makes him human. He rather prefers himself as someone who, not to offend others, pretends, plays that he is human.
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lizardman posted:It's nice to get confirmation that he is an actual person and not some kind of algorithm. The horror megathread is pretty much PYF because the sheer number of horror films out there prevents focused discussion. Everyone should watch the Den, if they can stand to, but most people haven't. So, might as well drop a quick recommendation. For what it's worth, the film's totally commendable because it acts as strong riposte to those films in the same sub-sub-genre (388 Arletta Ave., Evil Things, and Devil's Due...) SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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DeathChicken posted:I really really really love The Stand, to the point where I don't think anyone in future movies is going to be able to live up to Jamey Sheridan's version of Flagg. Also maybe the only time Rob Lowe was actually likeable in a role. I agree with everything but your last sentence. Someone hasn't seen Parks and Rec.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:18
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DeathChicken posted:I really really really love The Stand, to the point where I don't think anyone in future movies is going to be able to live up to Jamey Sheridan's version of Flagg. Also maybe the only time Rob Lowe was actually likeable in a role. Nah, he was likeable as Sam Seaborn in The West Wing. Re: Pet Sematary - while I do think it does a reasonable job of conveying the mood, the ending spoils it by resolving the deliberate ambiguity.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's extremely good, but Jesus Christ I can't blame you. It's the harshest horror film I've seen since Martyrs. If it helps, though, the pregnant gal survives alright, and there's a legitimate ending to justify sitting through everything. I finished it up this morning and that scene was definitey the most uncomfortable part. The end was indeed great, was straight out of Silent Hill. The final sting made a pretty effective joke out of the boilerplate indictment of the audience thing typical to the genre.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The horror megathread is pretty much PYF because the sheer number of horror films out there prevents focused discussion. Everyone should watch the Den, if they can stand to, but most people haven't. So, might as well drop a quick recommendation. What did you find so strongly offputting about The Den?
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Aug 7, 2014 18:43
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Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Kairo is pretty great horror by a director that is immensely accomplished. It's his use of space and the sense of intense loneliness in this film that does it. You're left feeling not shocked but just deeply troubled by the end.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:47
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Jonny Angel posted:He is not human. He is a monster, he claims. It's not that he has the mask of a theoretician, and beneath he is a more human person, he likes chocolate cakes, he likes this, he likes that, and so on, which makes him human. He rather prefers himself as someone who, not to offend others, pretends, plays that he is human. So would you say that though he can hide his cold gaze and I can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping mine and maybe I can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, that he simply is not there?
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Aug 7, 2014 18:54
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What did you find so strongly offputting about The Den? It's a byproduct of what it does well: the film successfully pulls off that elusive Texas Chain Saw dynamic, where the monstrous villains have totally understandable motivations. The protagonist is getting this bullshit sociology grant to document the internet, while the red fan woman loses several of her children just trying to survive in, essentially, a third-world sweatshop. The fact that they spare the pregnant woman is extremely important - as is the falsified suicide note talking about how the victim hurt her attacker's feelings. Providing a basic (though obviously illegitimate) reason for the stripping of agency demystifies it. Without the cheap bullshit nihilism of a 388 Arletta Ave., there's no cop-out of blaming things on the cruel indifference of the universe or whatever. The Den rings of truth throughout, and that sells the horror far better than a strict 'realism',
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Without the cheap bullshit nihilism of a 388 Arletta Ave., there's no cop-out of blaming things on the cruel indifference of the universe or whatever. The Den rings of truth throughout, and that sells the horror far better than a strict 'realism', Good poo poo. Horrible mundanity will always beat cheap nihilism.
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I know we have the Stephen King adaptation conversation literally probably twice a month, but it weirds me out that it always takes forever before anyone mentions The Dead Zone or Stand By Me. Also this time I think no one mentioned The Shining.
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I fuckin' love I, Zombie: The Chronicles of Pain.
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Agreed on The Den -- my girlfriend was actually scared by it, and she eats up horror movies for breakfast. "Banality of evil" is a good way to put what they're going for, and, hell, I'd say it's one of the few found footage movies I've seen in a while where the fact that it's found footage is actually in any way relevant. I also watched Sightseers recently and while yeah, it's more of a horror/comedy, I'd recommend it. (Don't watch the trailer as it fully spoils the movie.) I think I may rewatch Kill List as well since that's the same director.
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What does everyone think of Kill List, anyway? The two people I've seen it with totally loved and totally hated it, respectively. I have basically no reaction to it, it never really involved me. It was like a mini-Melancholia.
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Hbomberguy posted:What does everyone think of Kill List, anyway? The two people I've seen it with totally loved and totally hated it, respectively. I have basically no reaction to it, it never really involved me. It was like a mini-Melancholia. It has one or two scenes that are incredible but none of the material that connects them is that good. However, those scenes that are good have stuck with me enough that I'm mainly disappointed the whole film wasn't better.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Without the cheap bullshit nihilism of a 388 Arletta Ave., there's no cop-out of blaming things on the cruel indifference of the universe or whatever. The Den rings of truth throughout, and that sells the horror far better than a strict 'realism',
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Good poo poo. Horrible mundanity will always beat cheap nihilism. It's not just that, though. Most people gauge horror films by some level of explicitness, and there are plenty of films with more violence than this one - as well as more photo-realistic violence - but that lack the social and political realism that allow for suspension of disbelief. I can watch the far more graphic Poughkeepsie Tapes and be bored throughout, because there's very little commentary on what serial killers are all about. All the based-on-a-true-story stuff fizzles there.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's not just that, though. Most people gauge horror films by some level of explicitness, and there are plenty of films with more violence than this one - as well as more photo-realistic violence - but that lack the social and political realism that allow for suspension of disbelief. Like HUNDU mentioned, have you seen Megan Is Missing?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's not just that, though. Most people gauge horror films by some level of explicitness, and there are plenty of films with more violence than this one - as well as more photo-realistic violence - but that lack the social and political realism that allow for suspension of disbelief. This all makes me think of The Snowtown Murders, which is excellent.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's not just that, though. Most people gauge horror films by some level of explicitness, and there are plenty of films with more violence than this one - as well as more photo-realistic violence - but that lack the social and political realism that allow for suspension of disbelief. Yeah, I think we had a similar conversation about Poughkeepsie Tapes and Emergo. I am really big on psychological realism to the point where that affects how I watch most movies, good or bad. It doesn't really have anything to do with acting styles, either, but generally at the base level in a film, I want the characters to believe what's going on in the film they're in.
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DeathChicken posted:I always find it kind of funny that Saw gets most of the credit for starting the whole torture porn idea, when the first movie didn't really have much of any gore, aside from the big whammy scene. Even "the big whammy scene" is entirely off-screen. There's like, three gory shots in the entire movie, and the only one that's longer than about a second and a half is a fakeout. I don't know how that movie had to get edited down for an R rating. It's not even any more intense than Se7en or Silence of the Lambs.
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Hell, Saw could pretty easily have been a drat PG-13 movie for fucks sake if they just took out the wicked bloody bits. I just think it's funny that people blame Saw as "torture porn" and creating the genre when in reality the first saw had little to no elements that relate to "torture porn" and was actually a pretty well done, well received movie.
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If anything Audition created the genre since it was Eli Roth's major inspiration for Hostel which really Americanized torture porn. Saw just kinda fell into it with all the sequels reveling in the gore.
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The best part about The Den is how they answer the big found footage question-- WHY ARE THEY STILL FILMING??? The camera is bolted to her skull BAM.
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Neumonic posted:The best part about The Den is how they answer the big found footage question-- WHY ARE THEY STILL FILMING??? Do I need to see this movie? It sounds like I need to see this loving movie. 
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weekly font posted:If anything Audition created the genre since it was Eli Roth's major inspiration for Hostel which really Americanized torture porn. Saw just kinda fell into it with all the sequels reveling in the gore. I'm not disagreeing with you on how the content might have influenced other movies, but I think it's unfair to really see it as the genre's genesis.
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Neumonic posted:The best part about The Den is how they answer the big found footage question-- WHY ARE THEY STILL FILMING??? Even further ultimately it's just produced internet pornography, graphically exploiting its subjects who may or may not be real or actors. The "real" nature of the film is obfuscated to further indict the audience, identifying them with a dopey dad in an after school special.
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