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Emanuel Collective
Jan 16, 2008

by Smythe

h2oxaddict posted:

as their guardian or affected party, or just as some creep gently caress who fantasizes about dogs mauling children?

"Fantasy"

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Emanuel Collective
Jan 16, 2008

by Smythe
What sort of sick gently caress fantasizes about my innocent and pure pitties murdering children

h2oxaddict
Apr 5, 2009

"the rumor mill tells us Joe Don Baker himself hates us, and wishes us all dead, and if he met any one of us and knew who we were, he would probably take a swing, miss by a mile, spill his drink all over his rented arm-candy escort, and fall backward into the hors d'ouevre table."

"fantasize," as in you're willfully entertaining thoughts of all children being eaten by all pitt bulls, like in your free time, just casually thinking about dogs eating kids. reality or otherwise, you're sure mulling it the gently caress over, huh? sounds...creepy as gently caress.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



h2oxaddict posted:

"fantasize," as in you're willfully entertaining thoughts of all children being eaten by all pitt bulls, like in your free time, just casually thinking about dogs eating kids. reality or otherwise, you're sure mulling it the gently caress over, huh? sounds...creepy as gently caress.

You're kind of retarded.

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

joat mon posted:

I'll trade a little more risk for a better quality of life.

What this usually translates to though is you will trade a little more risk for other people for a better quality of life for yourself. Kids & other pets are the most frequent victims of an attack & they aren't making an informed decision to accept that risk, they simply bear the brunt of the consequence.

joat mon posted:

Where to draw the line for pets? Domesticated animals is a pretty good line. I'm OK with regulating ownership of large felines, primates, bears, etc.

My biased opinion would be that there should be restriction on animals capable of mauling people to death or at very least licensing requirements that have to be met before adoption. My family had pits because they have cute dumb faces & look like loving badasses. If pits weren't available to them they would have picked a different dog because if you want a dog & love dogs you aren't going to give up being a dog owner because the specific breed isn't available. I love dogs & I've worked with a lot of dogs (in part to get over my PTSD from the attack) and while I love pits & I think they are cute & loveable there is nothing so special about them that I would trade any other child having to go through being mauled by one.

For the record, I also support requiring parents to use child safety seats in cars even though some parents find that to be a violation of a free society.

uG
Apr 23, 2003

by Ralp

Trixie Hardcore posted:

For the record, I also support requiring parents to use child safety seats in cars even though some parents find that to be a violation of a free society.

quote:

"SuperFreakonomics" authors Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner claim that for children older than 2. there is no significant difference in the fatality rate between car seats and seat belts, 18.2 percent versus 18.1 percent respectively.

naem
May 29, 2011

I want to give everyone itt a big awkward hug right now, the kind where you pat their back so it's not gay

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe

h2oxaddict posted:

"fantasize," as in you're willfully entertaining thoughts of all children being eaten by all pitt bulls, like in your free time, just casually thinking about dogs eating kids. reality or otherwise, you're sure mulling it the gently caress over, huh? sounds...creepy as gently caress.

it's called empathy you walnut

The Droid
Jun 11, 2012

h2oxaddict posted:

i hope my murder dog, when he inevitably flips out, picks your baby's face to chew on

h2oxaddict
Apr 5, 2009

"the rumor mill tells us Joe Don Baker himself hates us, and wishes us all dead, and if he met any one of us and knew who we were, he would probably take a swing, miss by a mile, spill his drink all over his rented arm-candy escort, and fall backward into the hors d'ouevre table."

Trixie Hardcore posted:

What this usually translates to though is you will trade a little more risk for other people for a better quality of life for yourself. Kids & other pets are the most frequent victims of an attack & they aren't making an informed decision to accept that risk, they simply bear the brunt of the consequence.


My biased opinion would be that there should be restriction on animals capable of mauling people to death or at very least licensing requirements that have to be met before adoption. My family had pits because they have cute dumb faces & look like loving badasses. If pits weren't available to them they would have picked a different dog because if you want a dog & love dogs you aren't going to give up being a dog owner because the specific breed isn't available. I love dogs & I've worked with a lot of dogs (in part to get over my PTSD from the attack) and while I love pits & I think they are cute & loveable there is nothing so special about them that I would trade any other child having to go through being mauled by one.

For the record, I also support requiring parents to use child safety seats in cars even though some parents find that to be a violation of a free society.

that sounds like such an awful experience. i didn't pick my dog's breed out, he was given to me and i fell in love with him, you know? i got him neutered and obedience classes, and make sure to jog with him and give him lots of attention. i mean, i take care of him like he's a member of my family, and i think it's hosed when pet owners don't take their responsibilities seriously. i would support some sort of certified pitt owner program or whatever to keep him, because you're right, a gently caress ton of folks get pitties specifically for the stereotype, and it should be regulated.

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe

h2oxaddict posted:

that sounds like such an awful experience. i didn't pick my dog's breed out, he was given to me and i fell in love with him, you know? i got him neutered and obedience classes, and make sure to jog with him and give him lots of attention. i mean, i take care of him like he's a member of my family, and i think it's hosed when pet owners don't take their responsibilities seriously. i would support some sort of certified pitt owner program or whatever to keep him, because you're right, a gently caress ton of folks get pitties specifically for the stereotype, and it should be regulated.

you are the sort of person who should not own a "pitty" hth

h2oxaddict
Apr 5, 2009

"the rumor mill tells us Joe Don Baker himself hates us, and wishes us all dead, and if he met any one of us and knew who we were, he would probably take a swing, miss by a mile, spill his drink all over his rented arm-candy escort, and fall backward into the hors d'ouevre table."

Nude Bog Lurker posted:

you are the sort of person who should not own a "pitty" hth

what type of person should?

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
only those who have realized that the fate of all flesh is to fail and rot should cohabit with a pitbull. these screaming murder engines have burned through space and time to eat the faces of the future leaders of the human resistance.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


h2oxaddict posted:

what type of person should?

no type of person should own a pitbull, they should be genocided off the face of the earth

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

Oh well, gently caress safety then. Put 'em in catapults, toss 'em in tire fires.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Emanuel Collective posted:

I do give a gently caress about your lovely stupid murder dog

Go nuts. Just don't pretend it has anything to do with reducing risk of death or injury for people.

If you actually want to save lives, you should ban everyone's appendix. (387 deaths in 2011, vs. 31 from dog bites)
Pregnancy: 940 deaths (vs. 31)
Vehicles: 34,677 (This means you could pretend you saved a thousand times more lives if you bloviated about cars instead of dogs)
The death penalty (43 vs 31)
Alcohol: 26,256
Malnutrition: 2,993

The list goes on:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
If you want to reduce some deaths better just focus on the biggest cause of death instead. Makes sense. You can't voice an opinion about some dangerous things until you adequately voice your opinion on anything more dangerous otherwise it doesn't count. Everyone pool your resources and lets get pit bulls out there tearing out people's appendixes before they have a chance to rupture. Get another team on how to turn pit bulls into cars to make cars safer.

tiananman
Feb 6, 2005
Non-Headkins Splatoma

joat mon posted:

Go nuts. Just don't pretend it has anything to do with reducing risk of death or injury for people.

If you actually want to save lives, you should ban everyone's appendix. (387 deaths in 2011, vs. 31 from dog bites)
Pregnancy: 940 deaths (vs. 31)
Vehicles: 34,677 (This means you could pretend you saved a thousand times more lives if you bloviated about cars instead of dogs)
The death penalty (43 vs 31)
Alcohol: 26,256
Malnutrition: 2,993

The list goes on:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

haha what the hell. We're not talking about saving lives, we're talking about STOPPING THE DOG MAULINGS. There are a million benefits to having cars that outweigh the deaths that result. Travelling has always been dangerous and we've mitigated that danger with all kinds of laws, safety technology, licensing, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

But owning a pit bull doesn't confer any additional tangible benefit over owning any other dog and all you need to own this admittedly dangerous dog is a low IQ and whatever it costs to "rescue" one.

Lhet
Apr 2, 2008

bloop


Kinda funny, back before 2000 or so, the attacks were mainly from Rottweilers/German Shepards (some of them police dogs, which doesn't even count as a pet attack). Then within the last 13 or so years, the pit bulls start showing up as by far the most common killer breed.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
e: They're like tattoos. An easy way to be outlaw and edgy.

/\/\/\/\

Justin Tyme posted:

no type of person should own a pitbull, they should be genocided off the face of the earth

Ours was a rescue from a knucklehead who shouldn't have had a pet rock, let alone a dog. Thankfully, he was also too stupid to do anything actively bad to her.

Should I take her out back and put a bullet through her head? She'd sit still, she's a good girl.

Except that: Negligent discharge of firearm: 600 deaths - means I can't do that either.


How should I kill her?
Kindness. It's a long, slow death. You'd love it.


Trixie Hardcore posted:

Everyone pool your resources and lets get pit bulls out there tearing out people's appendixes before they have a chance to rupture. Get another team on how to turn pit bulls into cars to make cars safer.

You are wonderful, and understand that this thread is running on at least two levels.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Aug 9, 2014

Hyzenth1ay
Oct 24, 2008

h2oxaddict posted:

"fantasize," as in you're willfully entertaining thoughts of all children being eaten by all pitt bulls, like in your free time, just casually thinking about dogs eating kids. reality or otherwise, you're sure mulling it the gently caress over, huh? sounds...creepy as gently caress.

sorry you're stupid

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Lhet posted:

Kinda funny, back before 2000 or so, the attacks were mainly from Rottweilers/German Shepards (some of them police dogs, which doesn't even count as a pet attack). Then within the last 13 or so years, the pit bulls start showing up as by far the most common killer breed.

they were probably the 'pitbulls' of that era. ie a 'tough' breed of dog that idiots flocked to so they could look like a badass.

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

OMFG FURRY posted:

pit bulls that are raised to be people aggressive are dumb as hell, anytime you see a pit bull thats been trained to fight they are just super aggressive to other dogs

i'd be more scared of a tosa to be honest, those things will tear you to pieces

Plus the get to wear sick fighting clothes.

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading
I find it so weird that there are people who have to worry about their dog loving killing someone if it ever gets loose, which is pretty goddamn likely to happen at some point. If my dogs get out, all I gotta worry about is them getting hit by a car or killing one of the neighbor's stupid chickens. Or being killed by a pitbull that also got out.

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading
It's also unbelievably stupid to train a dog to be vicious for self-protection since for one, having a dog with you is by itself a massive deterrent against being attacked, and two, your dog will not be fond of someone who attacks you no matter how sociable, sweet or goofy it is.

It's basically the "Nature of Dog!" that if Master is attack, Dog must am protect Master.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
If I carried a sawn off shotgun to ostensibly defend myself against the whims of creatures who posses these things, I'd be in the wrong.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
yes you would. embrace death, coward.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Frostwerks posted:

i drive drunk and breed pitbulls. ama

Pootie Tang; great movie, or greatest movie?

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Cool, we hit the part of the thread where the human garbage posts pictures of their trash dogs being not currently violent because they think that means something.

Captain Matchbox
Sep 22, 2008

BOP THE STOATS
I havr a dog and he is biting his rope on the floor, not a human baby throat like all pit bulls

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.




get a rottweiler instead they are Good Dogs.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

No, all dogs other than actual working dogs are worthless garbage animals and should be exterminated.

tada.wav
Dec 24, 2013

Millie posted:

so dangerous.



so vicious.



(my son and my baby girl Tank)

:3

Not a pit. Also didn't we go over how this point you're making is stupid as hell?

My Lil Parachute
Jul 30, 2014

by XyloJW
it should be possible to genetically engineer some kind of virus that sterilizes all pit bulls, can someone get a kickstarter going, tia

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

It's a 'pittie' they haven't been wiped out yet.

uG
Apr 23, 2003

by Ralp
its best to have a dog that has been bred to have major health problems later in life to make them look cool/different so people think you must be a cool and interesting person

fivethree
Jul 28, 2014
here is the deal, fuckwagons:

1.) mixed breeds may have problems. 99% of time media portrayals of "pits" are mixed pits/something else/etc. there are only 2 recognized "pit bulls" by akc/ukc: (staffordshire bull, american staffordshire).

2.) -purebred- staffordshire bull terriers/american staffordshires have zero human aggression in breed standard.

3.) if you get a rescue from a kennel you have no idea what its breed history or fighting history is.

4.) bottom line: if you get a purebred staffordshire from a reputable, akc/ukc breeder ($1500+) you will have a great loving dog that doesn't have an ounce of human aggression, assuming you don't beat the poo poo out of it. dog may still be aggressive toward other dogs.

5.) if you get a rescue "pit bull" or a non-akc/ukc pitbull type from a breeder, you are getting a mixed bag with a very powerful breed that could have some unfortunate consequences.

6.) p good post op

7.) hey anyone got any money i ca have

fivethree fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Aug 9, 2014

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax
Pitbulls are animals that have been bred to kill. They are literally biological weapons. Why do we allow trashy "people" with tattoos to own biological weapons?

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

fivethree posted:

here is the deal, fuckwagons:

1.) mixed breeds may have problems. 99% of time media portrayals of "pits" are mixed pits/something else/etc. there are only 2 recognized "pit bulls" by akc/ukc: (staffordshire bull, american staffordshire).

2.) -purebred- staffordshire bull terriers/american staffordshires have zero human aggression in breed standard.

3.) if you get a rescue from a kennel you have no idea what its breed history or fighting history is.

4.) bottom line: if you get a purebred staffordshire from a reputable, akc/ukc breeder ($1500+) you will have a great loving dog that doesn't have an ounce of human aggression, assuming you don't beat the poo poo out of it. dog may still be aggressive toward other dogs.

5.) if you get a rescue "pit bull" or a non-akc/ukc pitbull type from a breeder, you are getting a mixed bag with a very powerful breed that could have some unfortunate consequences.

6.) p good post op

7.) hey anyone got any money i ca have

Hey everyone, donate to my Kickstarter to get all these goddamn rednecks who can't control their animals some $1500+ purebred proper lineage staffordshire bull terriers/american staffordshires so we can finally solve this mauling problem.

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Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

I like Pitbull doggies.

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