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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

I absolutely love how the Dept of Education is one of the ones he wants to get rid of. This must be so surreal to political junkies in other countries.

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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
And in the bitterest of ironies, one of the agencies he wanted to shut down was the dept. of education.

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


Evil Fluffy posted:

The Romney = Nixon comeback poo poo has been touted for a little while now.

Romney's version of the Checkers speech would probably get a much worse reception than Nixon's did though.

The White House tapes would be far less entertaining too.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

ATP_Power posted:

Romney's version of the Checkers speech would probably get a much worse reception than Nixon's did though.

The White House tapes would be far less entertaining too.

I dunno I can picture Romney having a similar response to hot pants, except more Ned Flanders like.

Jonked
Feb 15, 2005

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I dunno I can picture Romney having a similar response to hot pants, except more Ned Flanders like.
"Clit piercings."

"Cheese and crackers!"

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets
And our little girl named it Rafalca. And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dancing horse and I just want to say this right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we're gonna keep it.

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

Neeksy posted:

And in the bitterest of ironies, one of the agencies he wanted to shut down was the dept. of education.
I mean, Jesus, if he's at that level of insane cuts, he could have just said bye bye IRS. Or the EPA. or the NEA. There's hundreds, and conservatives hate them all.

Here's what the dept. of Commerce contains. Good loving luck without NOAA, the NWS, and the USPTO. Not to mention the Census.

    United States Secretary of Commerce
    United States Deputy Secretary of Commerce
    Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs
    Economics and Statistics Administration (ESA)
    Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
    Bureau of the Census
    Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade
    International Trade Administration (ITA)
    Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and Security
    Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS)
    Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere
    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
    National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS)
    National Weather Service (NWS)
    National Ocean Service (NOS)
    Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR)
    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps (NOAA Corps)
    Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property
    Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO)
    Economic Development Administration (EDA)
    Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA)
    National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)
    National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
    National Technical Information Service (NTIS)

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
Well, that's about it. That's what we have and that's what we owe. It isn't very much but Ann and I have the satisfaction that every dime that we've got is honestly ours. I should say this—that Ann doesn't have a sable coat. But she does have a respectable Republican mink coat. And I always tell her that she'd look good in anything.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

skaboomizzy posted:

The Chris Matthews school of television journalism.
It really depends. Some answers are clearly in need of an interruption and some aren't. The worst is when the person is actually saying something and the interviewer cuts in to get the interview back on the nothing track.

All to say Matthews is much better than your average cable guy even if he politico-y and a spaz.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


paranoid randroid posted:

Well, that's about it. That's what we have and that's what we owe. It isn't very much but Ann and I have the satisfaction that every dime that we've got is honestly ours. I should say this—that Ann doesn't have a sable coat. But she does have a respectable Republican mink coat. And I always tell her that she'd look good in anything.

mitt is in my had right now. You're a bad man

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

pangstrom posted:

It really depends. Some answers are clearly in need of an interruption and some aren't. The worst is when the person is actually saying something and the interviewer cuts in to get the interview back on the nothing track.

All to say Matthews is much better than your average cable guy even if he politico-y and a spaz.

Chris Matthews' actual political views are fairly reasonable. However, he has such a goddamn hardon for the "good ol' days" of Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan sitting down and figuring out ways to gently caress the middle class and the poor cooperate in a bipartisan fashion that you want to smack him.

Right now Rachel Maddow is the only anchor on that channel who has managed to be fairly evenhanded, calm, professional and educational without being intolerably smug about everything. I kinda like watching Al Sharpton because every time his name is mentioned right-wingers start foaming at the mouth, though.

Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Aug 18, 2014

CaptainCarrot
Jun 9, 2010

SirKibbles posted:

Oh he's totally running. He's been running since 2000 and for now it looks like Jeb Bush is his only viable competition.

If the past fifty years are any indication, Santorum's got it.

Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

Alter Ego posted:

Right now Rachel Maddow is the only anchor on that channel who has managed to be fairly evenhanded, calm, professional and educational without being intolerably smug about everything.

And let's be honest, she toes the line pretty drat hard on the smug front.

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

Alter Ego posted:

Chris Matthews' actual political views are fairly reasonable. However, he has such a goddamn hardon for the "good ol' days" of Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan sitting down and figuring out ways to gently caress the middle class and the poor cooperate in a bipartisan fashion that you want to smack him.

Right now Rachel Maddow is the only anchor on that channel who has managed to be fairly evenhanded, calm, professional and educational without being intolerably smug about everything. I kinda like watching Al Sharpton because every time his name is mentioned right-wingers start foaming at the mouth, though.

I like Hayes and Kornacki, but can only occasionally watch them due to toxic smug levels. :smith:

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I really do not enjoy Ronan Farrow. He has no gravitas or interview skills whatsoever.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Spatula City posted:

I like Hayes and Kornacki, but can only occasionally watch them due to toxic smug levels. :smith:

Mods please change my username to Toxic Smug Levels.

not really

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

paranoid randroid posted:

Well, that's about it. That's what we have and that's what we owe. It isn't very much but Ann and I have the satisfaction that every dime that we've got is honestly ours. I should say this—that Ann doesn't have a sable coat. But she does have a respectable Republican mink coat. And I always tell her that she'd look good in anything.

You know, I can't tell whether I'd like Romney more or less if he straight up parodied the Checkers speech. I certainly wouldn't vote for him anyway, but maybe I'd actually respect him for having the balls to do that.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Joementum posted:

Also recall that Newt and Ryan chat about Downton Abbey, which they both love because Newt sympathizes with Lord Grantham.
From a few pages back, and I realize I risk derailing this into pop culture chat, but man do Republicans love Downton Abbey. Probably because it takes them away to a magical land where being gently caress-off rich is an ideal.

As for Paul Ryan, he's Cyril Figgis (from Archer) in real life- a man who's good with numbers on the surface, but an unapologetic sociopath underneath. And if anybody saw Season 5, you saw the reason why we shouldn't elect Ryan to any higher office (although president of the United States is kind of different from a leading a Central American banana republic but just go with me here).

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I think Republicans just imagine that there's a perfect candidate who holds all their views, who has some experience but who is not an insider, and that the 2016 primary process is going to step up into the yard in front of the candidate's rustic log cabin, while this perfect candidate is splitting logs, and tell them that they are needed.

Magical thinking, that's pretty much what I believe that most regular Republicans are engaging in. And that's okay, because it's a whole two years until they're going to have to grudgingly but unhesitatingly pull the lever for some regular establishment shithead. That candidate just doesn't exist.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
So I realize we have a Ferguson thread but it seems to be moving pretty fast, so what the hell happened in the last few days? Last I remember there was a street party as the "nice cops" finally took over and then the police came out and said "Michael Brown was a shoplifter look at this security camera footage" and then I guess everything went back to poo poo again...?

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Here in the Bay Area, local news has gone on and on about how people in Berkeley and Richmond and Oakland (aka where black people live) are rioting over Michael Brown's shooting.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

Y-Hat posted:

As for Paul Ryan, he's Cyril Figgis (from Archer) in real life- a man who's good with numbers on the surface

Is there any indication that Ryan is ACTUALLY good with numbers at any level? My understanding was that all of his Miracle Budgets have been completely unworkable even from a basic arithmetical standpoint, let alone an ideological one.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Muscle Tracer posted:

Is there any indication that Ryan is ACTUALLY good with numbers at any level? My understanding was that all of his Miracle Budgets have been completely unworkable even from a basic arithmetical standpoint, let alone an ideological one.

But he is good with numbers and math! He just doesn't like showing his work, is all...

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Muscle Tracer posted:

Is there any indication that Ryan is ACTUALLY good with numbers at any level? My understanding was that all of his Miracle Budgets have been completely unworkable even from a basic arithmetical standpoint, let alone an ideological one.

He's the fiscal policy equivalent of those guys toiling away for years thinking they've proved Newton wrong that think there's a conspiracy afoot in academia to silence their voice.

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

Pornographic Memory posted:

So I realize we have a Ferguson thread but it seems to be moving pretty fast, so what the hell happened in the last few days? Last I remember there was a street party as the "nice cops" finally took over and then the police came out and said "Michael Brown was a shoplifter look at this security camera footage" and then I guess everything went back to poo poo again...?

The FBI did a federal autopsy today. The results:

Shot six+ times, all from the front, from a pretty good distance. No gunpowder residue on the body, and half the entry wounds are in the arms and hands- the parts of you facing forward when you have your hands up.

The cops in Ferguson have gone absolutely apeshit since this came out. All I can recommend is getting on Twitter.

PERMACAV 50 fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Aug 18, 2014

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

Sex Hobbit posted:

The FBI did a federal autopsy today. The results:

Shot six+ times, all from the front, from a pretty good distance. No gunpowder residue on the body, and half the entry wounds are in the arms and hands- the parts of you facing forward when you have your hands up.

The cops in Ferguson have gone absolutely apeshit since this came out. All I can recommend is getting on Twitter.

So is this a "shielding face" entry/reentry or is it a "put up yer dukes" one.


More importantly, which one do you think the cops will say it was.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
^^^^^^^^^ Clearly he was bull rushing the guy who was firing a gun at him I mean come on you know how those people are. :cop:

Sex Hobbit posted:

The FBI did a federal autopsy today. The results:

Shot six+ times, all from the front, from a pretty good distance. No gunpowder residue on the body, and half the entry wounds are in the arms and hands- the parts of you facing forward when you have your hands up.

The cops in Ferguson have gone absolutely apeshit since this came out. All I can recommend is getting on Twitter.

The very first paragraph of that article states that it was a private autopsy. The feds are conducting one, but this article isn't about a federally-run autopsy.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Muscle Tracer posted:

Is there any indication that Ryan is ACTUALLY good with numbers at any level? My understanding was that all of his Miracle Budgets have been completely unworkable even from a basic arithmetical standpoint, let alone an ideological one.
I should have said he's supposedly good with numbers, which I was going to put in my original post but left out for whatever reason.

The point is, he's a nerd who needs to get swirlies.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
Imagine Joe Biden dunking Paul Ryan into a toilet and giving him a swirlie.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Swan Oat posted:

Imagine Joe Biden dunking Paul Ryan into a toilet and giving him a swirlie.

I don't need to imagine it, he basically did that in the debate.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Muscle Tracer posted:

Is there any indication that Ryan is ACTUALLY good with numbers at any level? My understanding was that all of his Miracle Budgets have been completely unworkable even from a basic arithmetical standpoint, let alone an ideological one.

I always figured he just told the Committee policy staff "write me up a budget that slashes Social Security and taxes and creates a zillion jobs" and they have to do it because it's their job but the only way to satisfy the requests is to build a projection that assumes 10% yearly GDP growth and that the country runs on pixie dust. Then Ryan sees the budget they've produced that satisfies the requirements he gave them and jumps to the conclusion he's some kind of math and budget expert.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
I have heard a reliable info on that Biden orders Secret Service to get Paul Ryan in the back of a SUV for his monthly swirlie.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

I always figured he just told the Committee policy staff "write me up a budget that slashes Social Security and taxes and creates a zillion jobs" and they have to do it because it's their job but the only way to satisfy the requests is to build a projection that assumes 10% yearly GDP growth and that the country runs on pixie dust. Then Ryan sees the budget they've produced that satisfies the requirements he gave them and jumps to the conclusion he's some kind of math and budget expert.

Isn't a required GDP growth of 10% what China has to do every year to avoid imploding under their own growing population? Ryan's stealing ideas from communists :china:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

ThirdPartyView posted:

Why? Yellow journalism is the bedrock of the global news media, so this is par for the course.

Harris-Perry is the one who led a gleeful circle of pundits in jeering at a picture of Romney's adopted black grandson. Then, she hashtagged her own apology for it (#MHPapology) and cried tears that were certainly real and a person's tears; a human's tears.

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

SedanChair posted:

Harris-Perry is the one who led a gleeful circle of pundits in jeering at a picture of Romney's adopted black grandson. Then, she hashtagged her own apology for it (#MHPapology) and cried tears that were certainly real and a person's tears; a human's tears.

Is it bad that even though msnbc is lovely and bad, I prefer watching it to anything else on TV? At least I learn a thing or two from Maddow when she goes into her history teacher tirades.

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

emfive posted:

Well OK what I mean is that it's ridiculous in the context of a justice system that lets rapists off with way less time.

Well, let's be honest: Perry was asking for it.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
I know this is out of the blue but for some reason I totally expect to see a Romney/Ryan and a Hillary 2016 sticker on the same car in the coming years.

edit: oh look at those little grenades.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Shear Modulus posted:

I always figured he just told the Committee policy staff "write me up a budget that slashes Social Security and taxes and creates a zillion jobs" and they have to do it because it's their job but the only way to satisfy the requests is to build a projection that assumes 10% yearly GDP growth and that the country runs on pixie dust. Then Ryan sees the budget they've produced that satisfies the requirements he gave them and jumps to the conclusion he's some kind of math and budget expert.

To be fair to people who endure requests like these, this is how my (multi billion dollar) employer does their budgeting across the enterprise. More business juice please!

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Pornographic Memory posted:

So I realize we have a Ferguson thread but it seems to be moving pretty fast, so what the hell happened in the last few days? Last I remember there was a street party as the "nice cops" finally took over and then the police came out and said "Michael Brown was a shoplifter look at this security camera footage" and then I guess everything went back to poo poo again...?

Basically, thing calmed down after change of command authority. Then the old command authority intentionally undermined the "good" cop with the robbery video and things got bad. Friday night the Ferguson residents did a pretty good job repelling looters and hooligans but at this point looters, gangs, anarchists, revolutionary communists, black supremacists, and other protesters are flooding the area from all over America. It's past what locals can deal with and the cops (and now Guard) aren't going to be very discriminating between angry but nonviolent protesters and the myriad troublemakers taking advantage of the chaos.

It's bad.

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Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



ATP_Power posted:

The White House tapes would be far less entertaining too.

"Man, that's some spicy toast! What's on that?"

"Uh, just butter, sir."

"Hmm" - pause - "Is this rye bread?"

"Yes, I believe so, sir."

"Let's just have some nice normal white bread next time. Just white. Normal. White. Normal."

"I'll get you a towel to dab off that sweat, sir."

"Yes, uh, thanks, uh, see that you do!"

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